$8 apple? Maybe I should by a couple of truck loads today. Where do you get you data for $8 apples? BTW the stock market (DOW) is down to 24000 neighborhood from 26000 neighborhood.
Trump hitting Mexico with 5% tariff in response to migrants
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holdover
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Prices are going to fluctuate according to the supply and demand, Come on now. That always happens to commodity's. The tariffs on Mexico have almost nothing to do with the price of their goods, You know that, It has to do with illegal immigration And open borders. That sounds like it is strengthening the back bone of America to me.
BDinPutnam
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This makes absolutely no sense.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
???? How so?
BDinPutnam
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If tariffs have no impact on the price of goods (on either the export or import side) why impose them and what effect would you be seeking?
holdover
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The reason Trump placed Tarriffs on Mexico was because of Immigration not prices, Where Am I wrong?
It has nothing to do with the prices of Mexican goods being high or low.
It has nothing to do with the prices of Mexican goods being high or low.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
They do.
The effect Trump is seeking is to punch the Mexicans in the wallet. We went over this before, they cant sell their goods here at high prices, market wont accept it. They can import them but they will rot in the warehouses.In other words they cant sell their shit here until they start doing something on the border.
BDinPutnam
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Problem: we need help with the border crisis.
Solution: antagonize our third largest trading partner while also trying to conclude the President's signature trade deal with them and Canada.
Brilliant!
Solution: antagonize our third largest trading partner while also trying to conclude the President's signature trade deal with them and Canada.
Brilliant!
holdover
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It is! I totally agree with it! Thers no excuse for them to sit by and watch ,if not help, thousands of Illegal immigrants cross our borders then want to sell us their garbage. You want access to the market? then you have to lend us a hand. that's how it works . You want to fuck me while you make money in my store? no. you can go somewhere else, Thanks.
Which is better? having the Mexicans assist with closing the border and getting your 1 dollar apples back, or having your one dollar apples now with open borders?
Which is better? having the Mexicans assist with closing the border and getting your 1 dollar apples back, or having your one dollar apples now with open borders?
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kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
I was going to get taco bell for lunch, but you guys are making me feel guilty now. 
I bought a Titan xd PR, used to be a chevy guy but not after they never paid the loan back; f them! Ram = foreign, Ford= junk/foreign.
BDinPutnam
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So bailouts for American companies are bad.
Except when Trump does them. Because that is exactly what subsidies to the farms is.
Except when Trump does them. Because that is exactly what subsidies to the farms is.
Never said good or bad, but if you are supposed to pay it back then pay it back. GM never paid it back.
They could have gone bankrupt got rid of the unions or renegotiated, same for the banks. I don't see anyone as to big to fail.
My 2003 and 2006 GM trucks were crap like back when the US lost the automotive to the japs.
They could have gone bankrupt got rid of the unions or renegotiated, same for the banks. I don't see anyone as to big to fail.
My 2003 and 2006 GM trucks were crap like back when the US lost the automotive to the japs.
I really don't give a crap about "antagonizing" some Third World Hellhole.
If the USA never existed, if north of the Rio Grande was another Ocean, Mexico would be the world's MOST worthless country.
Any success they enjoy is due the USA.
Dr. Evil
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Shadow2
6.5 Creedmoor
I don't need Mexican Crap Goods or Chinese crap goods, Japanese make some nice stuff lets keep that relationship civil.
Blimey
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This threat appears to have substantial weight with Mexico, it's already putting in additional efforts into stopping the flow.
BDinPutnam
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Good to know you prefer not to have seats in your American made vehicles.
pjzwtl
.308 Win
And a threat is probably all it was. Playing nice never seems to work with pain in the ass “partners”
pjzwtl
.308 Win
Someone else will make them
BDinPutnam
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I dont understand you guys. You want manufacturing jobs in the US but you claim all the US companies that would create them are horrible "globalists."
So who do you want to create these jobs?
So who do you want to create these jobs?
Marine Cpl
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What’s not to understand? We want American companies to build in America using American employees. If tariffs take away the incentive of American companies to stop using cheap labor overseas to build car seats since it’ll make building overseas nonprofitable, we win. We will get more Americans working here building car seats. More Americans working equals more money in the American pocket spending here in the US which equals a better economy.
holdover
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Deal Reached With Mexico "To Stem The Tide Of Migration", Tariffs Suspended.
Donald J. TrumpVerified account @realDonaldTrump 15h15 hours ago
....stem the tide of Migration through Mexico, and to our Southern Border. This is being done to greatly reduce, or eliminate, Illegal Immigration coming from Mexico and into the United States. Details of the agreement will be released shortly by the State Department. Thank you!
5:31 PM - 7 Jun 2019
Donald J. TrumpVerified account @realDonaldTrump 4h4 hours ago
MEXICO HAS AGREED TO IMMEDIATELY BEGIN BUYING LARGE QUANTITIES OF AGRICULTURAL PRODUCT FROM OUR GREAT PATRIOT FARMERS!
The State Department released the following "details" (which many said we beyond opaque):
Mexican Enforcement Surge
Mexico will take unprecedented steps to increase enforcement to curb irregular migration, to include the deployment of its National Guard throughout Mexico, giving priority to its southern border. Mexico is also taking decisive action to dismantle human smuggling and trafficking organizations as well as their illicit financial and transportation networks. Additionally, the United States and Mexico commit to strengthen bilateral cooperation, including information sharing and coordinated actions to better protect and secure our common border.
Migrant Protection Protocols
The United States will immediately expand the implementation of the existing Migrant Protection Protocols across its entire Southern Border. This means that those crossing the U.S. Southern Border to seek asylum will be rapidly returned to Mexico where they may await the adjudication of their asylum claims.
In response, Mexico will authorize the entrance of all of those individuals for humanitarian reasons, in compliance with its international obligations, while they await the adjudication of their asylum claims. Mexico will also offer jobs, healthcare and education according to its principles.
The United States commits to work to accelerate the adjudication of asylum claims and to conclude removal proceedings as expeditiously as possible.
Further Actions
Both parties also agree that, in the event the measures adopted do not have the expected results, they will take further actions. Therefore, the United States and Mexico will continue their discussions on the terms of additional understandings to address irregular migrant flows and asylum issues, to be completed and announced within 90 days, if necessary.
Trump on Saturday also tweeted that Mexico also will buy “large quantities” of agricultural products, a stipulation that wasn’t included in a joint statement. As reported previously, Mexico did commit to deploying National Guard troops to help curb illegal migration and agree to care for Central Americans seeking asylum in the U.S. indefinitely as their cases wind through the system.
“Mexico successfully avoided the catastrophe of tariffs but will pay a heavy price,” said Duncan Wood, director of the Mexico Institute at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars in Washington. “Potentially tens of thousands of refugee claimants will have to wait in Mexico while their claims are processed. Mexico will have to house, employ, educate and provide health care for them. This is a huge commitment” for the government.
Trump: Deal Reached With Mexico "To Stem The Tide Of Migration", Tariffs Suspended
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- Donald J. TrumpVerified account @realDonaldTrump 15h15 hours ago
- I am pleased to inform you that The United States of America has reached a signed agreement with Mexico. The Tariffs scheduled to be implemented by the U.S. on Monday, against Mexico, are hereby indefinitely suspended. Mexico, in turn, has agreed to take strong measures to....
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Donald J. TrumpVerified account @realDonaldTrump 15h15 hours ago....stem the tide of Migration through Mexico, and to our Southern Border. This is being done to greatly reduce, or eliminate, Illegal Immigration coming from Mexico and into the United States. Details of the agreement will be released shortly by the State Department. Thank you!
5:31 PM - 7 Jun 2019
Donald J. TrumpVerified account @realDonaldTrump 4h4 hours ago
MEXICO HAS AGREED TO IMMEDIATELY BEGIN BUYING LARGE QUANTITIES OF AGRICULTURAL PRODUCT FROM OUR GREAT PATRIOT FARMERS!
The State Department released the following "details" (which many said we beyond opaque):
Mexican Enforcement Surge
Mexico will take unprecedented steps to increase enforcement to curb irregular migration, to include the deployment of its National Guard throughout Mexico, giving priority to its southern border. Mexico is also taking decisive action to dismantle human smuggling and trafficking organizations as well as their illicit financial and transportation networks. Additionally, the United States and Mexico commit to strengthen bilateral cooperation, including information sharing and coordinated actions to better protect and secure our common border.
Migrant Protection Protocols
The United States will immediately expand the implementation of the existing Migrant Protection Protocols across its entire Southern Border. This means that those crossing the U.S. Southern Border to seek asylum will be rapidly returned to Mexico where they may await the adjudication of their asylum claims.
In response, Mexico will authorize the entrance of all of those individuals for humanitarian reasons, in compliance with its international obligations, while they await the adjudication of their asylum claims. Mexico will also offer jobs, healthcare and education according to its principles.
The United States commits to work to accelerate the adjudication of asylum claims and to conclude removal proceedings as expeditiously as possible.
Further Actions
Both parties also agree that, in the event the measures adopted do not have the expected results, they will take further actions. Therefore, the United States and Mexico will continue their discussions on the terms of additional understandings to address irregular migrant flows and asylum issues, to be completed and announced within 90 days, if necessary.
Trump on Saturday also tweeted that Mexico also will buy “large quantities” of agricultural products, a stipulation that wasn’t included in a joint statement. As reported previously, Mexico did commit to deploying National Guard troops to help curb illegal migration and agree to care for Central Americans seeking asylum in the U.S. indefinitely as their cases wind through the system.
“Mexico successfully avoided the catastrophe of tariffs but will pay a heavy price,” said Duncan Wood, director of the Mexico Institute at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars in Washington. “Potentially tens of thousands of refugee claimants will have to wait in Mexico while their claims are processed. Mexico will have to house, employ, educate and provide health care for them. This is a huge commitment” for the government.
Trump: Deal Reached With Mexico "To Stem The Tide Of Migration", Tariffs Suspended
Winning!!!!!!
Bustedknees
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*Old thread alert*
Interweb is reporting Canada folded on tariffs. None from them if we do the same.
The Mexican elstupido is also saying no new tariffs from them.
Interweb is reporting Canada folded on tariffs. None from them if we do the same.
The Mexican elstupido is also saying no new tariffs from them.
Bustedknees
.308 Win
Still breathing???
Blimey
.450/400 Nitro Ex
On the contrary, trump backed off a week ago after a call with the canadian PM. Canada has made it very clear they are not folding on tariffs. If you think differently you need to start reading news from canadian sources. The country is overwhelmingly livid over this topic, and absolutely will not be bending the knee: 'We are going to fight these tariffs with countermeasures': PM Mark Carney responds to Trump tariffs
I hope no trump voters actually thought he was going to lower prices.
Bustedknees
.308 Win
They better hope their northern eskimos can replace us as buyers. Let them try their 250% tariffs on other countries. Ain't happening, we are the largest consumers by a landslide. I was raised by my parents "factory workers" before Bill Clinton made deals that destroyed our country.
libertysnake
.338 Win Mag
Problem is a lot of people here are going to stick their head into the sand and not level the same criticism they brought to bear against Biden against one of their own. The "two wrongs make a right" mentality that got us down this road of an overpowered executive branch across nearly all administrations in my lifetime.
The trade deals we are making are a mistake. If there was a problem with previous polices or rates, fixing it like this is going to spark more of a panic than help. Especially when done suddenly.
If the active trade deals were unfair, that's on Trump.