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You didn’t see the threat . Okay . You would be lucky or dead if you didn’t see the threat. You would not know his background nor could you react fast enough if and when he made a decision to use it . He might be still making that decision when the officer made him move from the door . you are...

Yes I did . And it was in a gun fight . The other officer thought it was the shooter coming back out with the shotgun again. It’s different circumstances then what we are talking about in this thread . The brother in law did what when the police came — got out the shotgun and started shooting...

Pizza delivery guy is being lumped in with other guys who go out to strangers homes and deliver pizza . The law enforcement statistic is lumping patrol officers with people who never make arrests but happen to have the power to do so on paper , and never have . Big difference. It’s like...

“Officers drew their weapons, and they and Wright told Higdon to put the gun down, but the man refused, the lawsuit said.” “Shooting broke out, then the Wrights ran into their bedroom as officers and the family member exchanged gunfire, Vickie Wright” The Sevier County District Attorney’s...

Spat, you have no idea what you are talking about . Go ahead and read those most dangerous job statistics then read more into it . All of law enforcement is grouped together including people who aren’t real cops like security guards but with peace officer status. It’s like saying joining the...

Did the officer know what was going on before the kid came up with the gun? The cop told him to get it right ? How did he carry it ? Not the same way I bet . Completely different circumstances.

And he would be going up for life . Do not follow this guy’s advice .

Not to the person who is being ambushed. In any shooting , it is from the point of view of the shooter that it is weighed for a self defense claim. Is it reasonable that the cop thought it was an ambush. Planned or impromptu . Hell, yes is the answer. And it works both ways. If the police...

Still waiting for details . What is reported is https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ohio-police-officer-shot-killed-ambushed-gunman-disturbance-call-euclid/ https://abcnews.go.com/US/manhunt-suspect-fatally-shot-euclid-ohio-police-officer/story?id=110146373

Just to add. An Ohio cop was just “ambushed “ and killed on a similar call

The cop did not have his gun drawn when he knocked on the door nor when the door opened . He drew and fired when the threat was presented — he saw the gun in the man’s hand when he stepped from behind the door with it

You do not know what qualified immunity is . Cops get sued all the time. And doctors do have a type of qualified immunity. You just can’t sue a doctor because they missed a diagnosis “Not every diagnostic error is malpractice” Can You Prove the Doctor Was Negligent? There's almost no such...

Cops get sued all the time for right or wrong . You have little or not proper knowledge on what qualified immunity is. And if one did what doctors do all the time , they would be up for involuntary manslaughter or worse. Did the doctor who cut off the wrong leg get criminally charged ? How...

He never pointed the gun at the officers either

When someone “seeks” the conflict isn’t the good guy? Are you kidding? The cop was called there . A Witness guided the officer there . And yes, being a police officer going to the door makes a difference. You can’t have it both ways. First people say no to the “no knock warrants “ and when the...

The gun owner is the one who screwed up. . And doctors kill people everyday without consequences. Being paid to take risks is different than being different than being paid to be killed. You have just told us to die with that rule of engagement. What do you think the criminals would do? And...

Enough of us die or get shot and maimed already . And yes, truck drivers try to avoid getting killed too. It’s not the same to compare . How about if the law was you can’t shoot a burglar until he shoots at you first . That’s a fair comparison Or how about if this was a stand your ground state...

No one took the job “to be shot at@ and least of all, “to be shot”.

Yep. Just dead cops. That’s your answer.

I am saying that action beats reaction even if the person has their gun drawn and aimed at the other person. If someone broke into your house and you shot him, would you be justified ? What if that person went to the wrong house and thought they were invited there. Would that gun owner be...

Hello, it is not that he is armed . It’s that he has the gun in his hand and can easily shoot the officer if the officer does not shoot. You aren’t getting it . We encounter armed “ good guys “ who we don’t know is a good guy yet often . Plainclothes or undercover cop, off duty cop or federal...

The officer absolutely DID NOT screw up. It was the gun owner. He made a mistake that was fatal . That is what you do not understand. If that was an off duty cop who got shot in this scenario, I would tell you that the off duty cop screwed up. If that was a plain clothes cop who came on to the...

Wake up to reality. The police will not know if you are a good guy or not. This call very easily could have been a domestic violence call with the gun. The officer would not know. And many officers have been killed by such legal gun owners in the gun owners home , who had no criminal record when...

It’s already illegal to possess ANY firearms. Only later in other sections of the law do they make exceptions like if you have a pistol license.

You have no idea of what you are talking about. That quote of having no obligation to protect the public is misconstrued all the time. In the case that quote is from, the police officers on scene NEVER saw or heard from the victims . Nor did they speak to any witnesses because none approached...

That’s an imminent threat . And if you are what you claim, go ask everyone you work with what they think. And if you don’t think so , you are going to get killed or one of your co-workers killed . I just showed video of how even like that , the man could get a shot off before the cop can react ...

Okay. Use the info in this shooting from the point of view of the cop. He responded to 911 call of people fighting . The person tells him the apartment number. After the officer knocks on the door and identifies as sheriff’s deputy, the person answers the door with a gun in his hand . All of...

That’s not what I said. If you answer a door with gun in your hand the way this guy did, the cop is going to think you are the bad guy unless you do something differently. Go, if you are what you claim, then you had the confrontation training and heard the stories where cops shot other cops ...

You clearly haven’t been on the other side of that door . So in your mind , police officers should die . Because that’s what is going to happen. The cop should sacrifice his life because this guy with the gun was stupid !!!! And made a mistake . He was a direct threat Dude, he absolutely...

Maybe the real answer is to learn what not to do in these situations. We drill “confrontations” where we learn what not to do. Yes, police officers have shot other cops because similar situations and the other officer didn’t know this was another good guy.

Unlike you, I have been on both sides of that door . Do you think cops instantly know each other ? I would have been shot if I did the exact same thing this guy did .

Breaking news. They just found out he was a drug dealer with two kilos of cocaine in the apartment. He also had a juvenile criminal history . Does that change things ? Well, the above is not true . But how would the officer know or not know?

He was an eminent threat . The officer doesn’t know he did nothing wrong . He could have been a crazy nut case holding hostages for all he knew . He got a call there . A gun in the hand like that is an eminent threat especially if you know it’s the police at the door. police arrest plenty of...

That is an immediate threat . A gun in the hand even at his side is an imminent threat . Please learn that . Reaction is always slower than action. Here is an example

We will see. Remember the person giving info for the article is Ben Crump. He lies like a rug. The video shows he went to the correct address. You can hear someone ( not the deputy) say “ it’s the police “as if a person on the phone ie- he knew it was the police when he opened the door if that...

I’m pro-union but these demands have nothing to do with the job . Just bat-crazy including the wage increase

This just outlaws the Glock switches and not Glocks or similar guns . Edit: I’m wrong . I read it too fast . It would outlaw all striker fired pistols

Anyone get a special semi automatic rifle license after this bill was passed or is your county just adding it to your pistol license?

Even then, the turnaround time to charge the vehicle for the next customer could be a problem in a busy period

What’s her PHD in ?

Calm down. It’s a great law. Great for us. Let them come after a PA business or an TX business owner and the PA AG or TX AG will be forced to defend and will have standing to defend all of us against that law.

I use break free . My info comes from collectors . Thank you for the correction if I was wrong. I do know that Ballistol is their “go to”. Probably because it’s time tested .

Breakfree CLP is a preservative as well as a lubricant. A film protects the metal however over time it might gel up and gunk up moving parts . Ballistol is used more by collectors because it doesn’t gum up. Breakfree also makes a collector’s oil in addition to CLP

They already relax the regulations about flying on domestic flights for illegals - no ID required .

It was two votes short and four republicans voted no .

Nope. It’s not how it’s been interpreted in the courts , nice try however

The actual law has very vague “ unless official business “ written in it

You mean they are following the order Trump gave as president -wow. Imagine if they followed it back then

Yes, even the federal judge ruling applies to the post office, state law may apply . So those signs would have the force of law either way . But the parking lot thing is big , And those signs are often not visible until one is already inside the building

It has a disclaimer to the law of except for official business ie to mail it