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  1. US RIFLE M1A

    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    I do believe you have it backwards. In order to be hired as armed security, you need an armed security license, which you obtain on your own by taking the required training and then submitting the training and fingerprints to the state. The license is a credential that is not tied in with any...
  2. US RIFLE M1A

    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    Why does that remind me of the chalkboards during Weimar Germany (1930s) on which the proprietor of a shop would scrawl the current value of the Deutchmark (German money)..... The value would change constantly (always for the worse) literally while the customer shopped, ate dinner, etc. What...
  3. US RIFLE M1A

    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    I am going to print out the above quote and use it as reasonable doubt at my trial. No one knows what is going on at any time, literally minute by minute as the hours and days roll on. Yes, I believe we can still carry on private property.
  4. US RIFLE M1A

    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    If someone wishes to provide armed protection in a venue which is currently being contested in these legal actions, it would be wise to obtain an armed security license.
  5. US RIFLE M1A

    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    A federal district judge's ruling is generally valid for the entire state. Speaking in context of gun laws, there may be some exceptions to this state-wide authority, one example would be if New York City passed it's own laws specific to the city such as the Times Square no-carry law...
  6. US RIFLE M1A

    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    Be advised that a notice of appeal and a request for a stay of a preliminary injunction are not the same. Filing a notice of appeal (one page letter, no actual contents) to the 2nd circuit is done in order to leave that avenue open for the future. No actual arguments in support of an appeal...
  7. US RIFLE M1A

    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    Carry in churches is Hardaway. Sinatrata/WDNY. Still in effect (that's a good thing). I do not see an appeal to the 2 Circus for the Sinatra cases.
  8. US RIFLE M1A

    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    For those who did not dig through Judge Sinatra's latest ruling on the CCIA, this is the money shot; “In sum, the vast majority of land in New York is held privately, and it encompasses homes, stores, businesses, factories, vacant land, hotels, parking lots and garages, grocery stores...
  9. US RIFLE M1A

    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    I am not a lawyer, but from what I hear in the lawyer and LE world, is that this law (CCIA) is now entirely unenforceable. For a CCIA-based arrest to stick, this new ruling would have to be stayed, AND the state would have to have a perfect, 100% UNBROKEN success rate for the duration of FOUR...
  10. US RIFLE M1A

    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    "Legislative enactments may not eviscerate the Bill of Rights. Every day they do, is one too many."
  11. US RIFLE M1A

    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    I understand that, what I was referring to was the use of that term as a screen name on another discussion site (AR15.com). Written in the 'first person' as if he were the lawyer in Antonyuk. Maybe he is. Pretty sure he goes by 2ALitigator on Reddit in NY Guns. See AR15.com/Hometown/NY
  12. US RIFLE M1A

    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    Please accept this letter as clarifying a restriction in the Concealed Carry Improvement Act that I believe the Court may have misunderstood me as conceding yesterday.1 During yesterday’s hearing, during Plaintiffs’ opening argument, I had attempted to make a distinction for Plaintiffs’...
  13. US RIFLE M1A

    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    The actual plaintiff's attorney is on Reddit as 2ALititigator. He makes some excellent points that he was instructed by the judge NOT to go over territory already covered. That's why he did not seem on point, he was told not to be. Only new stuff. Others who were there say that defense got...
  14. US RIFLE M1A

    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    I don't know who NoloContendere is, but he refers to the plaintiffs as 'we.'
  15. US RIFLE M1A

    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    Look at the number of lawyers on each side. I count at least a 7 to 1 ratio. Also, an immediate transcript request usually means that they want to get going on an appeal or stay in a higher court. Oct 25, 2022 TEXT Minute Entry for proceedings held before U.S. District Judge Glenn T...
  16. US RIFLE M1A

    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    There is a series of Reddit posts from someone who was actually there. Defense fielded a team of lawyers, some of whom were there solely to enable the speaker to not skip a beat when looking up supporting material. Plaintiff attorney was on his own, and the audio made him seem like he was...
  17. US RIFLE M1A

    Hochul will make a "gun safety" announcement today

    ALBANY, N.Y. (WRGB) — Gov. Kathy Hochul and Attorney General Letitia James announced an expansion of the state's red flag law Monday. The law puts safeguards into place to remove firearms from potentially dangerous individuals. Hochul and James announced a $4.6 million increase to the attorney...
  18. US RIFLE M1A

    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    For better or worse, the presumption is that in assigning multiple related cases, the court seeks to 'minimize the duplication of judicial effort.' Of you are assigned a judge who is sympathetic to your constitutional reasoning, you (and similar plaintiffs) are in for a good run. My favorite...
  19. US RIFLE M1A

    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    When comparing this quick and difinive ruling by Judge Sinatra to the case before Judge Suddaby, consider that Judge Sinatra was ruling on case that was extremely limited in scope in comparison. The 'carry in church' elements of the Antonyuk et al (Suddaby) case took up one page of the 65 page...
  20. US RIFLE M1A

    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    It is a game. Suddaby's decision has to make it past the circuit court and possibly to SCOTUS. The wiggle room for standing and how broad the decision is gets wider as you go up the chain. SCOTUS can widen the ruling to include more locations that you are constitutionally entitled to carry...
  21. US RIFLE M1A

    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    Only if the plaintiffs have standing. It does not matter how egregious the constitutional issue is, if the plaintiffs do not have standing, the issue is moot until plaintiffs with standing step forward in a separate case entirely.
  22. US RIFLE M1A

    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    My gut feeling is that Suddaby is ready to issue the injunction on prohibitions on carry in the following locations: -Stores/gas stations/parking lots (business private property) -Worship -Restaurants w/ alcohol -Theaters -Parks -Buses He is signaling to the plaintiffs that in order to go past...
  23. US RIFLE M1A

    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    If the state would take the partial win and partial loss and live with it, I would consider it a victory. Problem is, there is no compromising with tyrants. If Suddaby threw everything out except one square inch of the state somewhere in the middle of the woods and said you CAN carry there and...
  24. US RIFLE M1A

    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    This most recent text order narrows the scope of the Antonyuk challenge. It looks like he is doubting standing on a number of locations. What he is doubting is in red below. Bottom line, the locations in play in Antonyuk v. Bruen/Hochul are now: -Stores/gas stations/parking lots (business...
  25. US RIFLE M1A

    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    Oct 19, 2022 TEXT NOTICE acknowledging receipt of the parties' Stipulation Regarding Witnesses and Exhibits (Dkt. No. 58 ) and respectfully advising Plaintiffs that, based on Defendants' arguments in their opposition papers (Dkt. No. 48 ) and motion to dismiss (Dkt. No. 46, Attach. 2), the Court...
  26. US RIFLE M1A

    Women charged with murder for a homeowner defending his home, women tried to kill deadman

    WTF The person who commits a felony AND by doing so sets in motion a chain of events which leads directly to a death of another, is criminally liable for that death of another. In New York the shorthand term is 'felony murder' which is a confusing term, because then someone who is not...
  27. US RIFLE M1A

    Nys sending out $475 million in tax rebate checks by end of October

    I don't get a check, but if I did, make mine out to PA Guns and Ammo. Put '7.62x51' in the memo line.
  28. US RIFLE M1A

    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    Just remember that what has happened up to now in the 2nd is just housekeeping. The judge who extended the stay is just keeping the situation as is until it can get to the panel. She has no authority to do anything else. If/when the 3-judge panel rules on the stay, we will gain some insight...
  29. US RIFLE M1A

    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    Several random thoughts: - We are witnessing the death throes of gun control. The gun grabbers will go out the same way they came in; with racist laws that are meant to take rights from disfavored groups in society. Watch them, as this current case moves forward, quote brutally racist laws...
  30. US RIFLE M1A

    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    If the Supreme Court gets 'packed' as in raising the number of justices to obtain a leftist majority, then we no longer live in the US of A. All bets are off at that time.
  31. US RIFLE M1A

    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    I am watching the video as I type this... AND from what I hear from a lawyer at work - is what the 2nd Circuit did today was nothing more than courthouse traffic control. Like being on an aircraft which is holding waiting for clearance to take off. At worst, the TRO will be stayed for another...
  32. US RIFLE M1A

    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    You take a risk every time you leave your house armed. You take a risk every time you leave your house unarmed. Life is full of risks. Live as you see fit. This is a minor procedure in a road that we know will eventually lead to victory. We have already had several powerful wins. They will...
  33. US RIFLE M1A

    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    A TROOP NJNSP2600 BELLMAWR NJNSP2200 BRIDGETON NJNSP2000 BUENA VISTA NJNSP2800 PORT NORRIS NJNSP3500 WOODBINE NJNSP3200 WOODSTOWN B TROOP NJNSP4000 HOPE NJNSP4600 NETCONG NJNSP8800 PERRYVILLE NJNSP5100 SOMERVILLE NJNSP5200 SUSSEX NJNSP0800 TOTOWA NJNSP5300 WASHINGTON C TROOP NJNSP6000 BORDENTOWN...
  34. US RIFLE M1A

    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    Injunction hearing next week. Injunctions outrank a TRO. Judge Suddaby has proven to be a Constitutionalist who respects SCOTUS. He also knows that the judges of the 2nd District are neither, but they need to have their hands on the case for it to get to SCOTUS. At this point, it's not the...
  35. US RIFLE M1A

    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    First get a NJ Firearms Purchaser ID Card. Application on the state police website. Will require two references (filled out online). Upon issuance of Firearms ID Card, with that in hand, then find an approved rage to qualify (50 rounds/approx 1 hour session) and go to an Identigo for...
  36. US RIFLE M1A

    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    It would be a strange scenario that the 2nd will create if the TRO is blocked. The injunction will be heard later this month in federal district court (Judge Suddaby). If prior to the injunction hearing in district court, the 2nd blocks the TRO, and then Suddaby subsequently issues an...
  37. US RIFLE M1A

    Attorney General James Takes Action to Maintain Concealed Carry Gun Laws and Protect New Yorkers

    This and the fact that the law has been declared unconstitutional by TWO courts. Judge Suddaby and SCOTUS (Bruen). What the state is doing is an act of lawlessness.
  38. US RIFLE M1A

    Attorney General James Takes Action to Maintain Concealed Carry Gun Laws and Protect New Yorkers

    The Rochester Industrial and Rapid Transit Railway (1927 - 1956) was built in the trench left behind when the Erie Canal was moved to its present location. The two mile section downtown was covered over and became Broad Street, the rest was exposed, more of an inter-urban than a true subway...
  39. US RIFLE M1A

    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    Not only that, but you can find a restaurant with a bar attached in the Adirondacks, after stocking up your cabin by shopping at the local grocery store after filling up the tank on your Jeep which needed a minor doodad at the auto parts store.... All while concealed carrying. Like people do...
  40. US RIFLE M1A

    Bruen resigns

    I said pretty much the same thing in a post earlier. There are few, if any, political favors to be had by screwing a peaceful segment of your constituency (Law abiding gun owners). Certainly no money in it for the state oligarchs, and that is all they are interested in - feeding off of the...
  41. US RIFLE M1A

    Bruen resigns

    Either Bruen 0 or Bruen the Zero.
  42. US RIFLE M1A

    Bruen resigns

    Which Bruen? NYSRPA v. Bruen is Bruen 1 because there is a Bruen 2 which was Antonyuk v. Bruen, so the case we won yesterday is Bruen 2.1 or Bruen 3. I guess that sorry prick got tired of having losing cases named after him. Fuck you, you fucking loser.
  43. US RIFLE M1A

    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    If you do not lose the mentality of requiring permission to exercise a fundamental right, you will never be able to navigate this new landscape. In NYSRPA/Bruen, SCOTUS declared that the right to be armed exists, it exists without permission being needed, and that the state must justify any...
  44. US RIFLE M1A

    2A Lawsuits and their progress we have here in NY

    As I said in the topic that is specific to this TRO, this closes the matter for me regarding the CCIA. The law has been declared unconstitutional in a highly detailed opinion written by the judge, and will be nearly impossible to enforce from this point forward. Last time I checked, private...
  45. US RIFLE M1A

    Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)

    I have not read the full decision, only the court's summary. However, I can add some clarification to certain issues. - The little admin buildings in some parks are off limits, but they have already been so. I went into a federal ranger station in New Hampshire to buy a coffee mug last year...
  46. US RIFLE M1A

    2A Lawsuits and their progress we have here in NY

    A member here is advocating backing down due to increased punishment from the state. With due respect, I say... bullshit. In another thread I posted that the scandal with Bruen is not as it seems. It has nothing to do with what they say it has to do with, which is an HR issue. Hochul is...
  47. US RIFLE M1A

    2A Lawsuits and their progress we have here in NY

    Listened to the interview portion of the podcast, and the concern for the rights of each individual plaintiff against retribution is powerful. Specifically mentioned in the hearing. Not too different from my comment above. Make it about the plaintiffs specifically. This also gives plaintiffs...
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