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THAT is what I am trying to get to. What is LAW? And getting back on topic - for Handguns Hunting. No one will answer me with any penal code or precedent. (Not you guys - DEC, State Police, Sheriffs Office, or local PD.)

Looks to me like a fully justifiable shooting. She got both hands back on the pistol, aimed and dropped him like a hot potato.

I am still hanging in there. I have to just be patient..... Not a trait of a person like me, or a Marine... SEE!! This is a lesson in patience (My wife came up with that). I will talk to you all in another month with an update. My pistols are still at the FFL waiting patiently for me...

Well, another month gone by and not a peep. No one contacted, including myself. Still no denial letter, so there is that.

I agree 100% - I was being a bit tongue in cheek above. He will do all he can to defy it, but if SCOTUS rules in our favor on it - it is the law of the land - and what Judge can possibly prosecute against that.

It will NEVER happen here - even is SCOTUS says so. Andy Monkey Face FUAC will deny the decision and rein supreme over New Yorkistan!

Still no reply from the Troopers, or the DEC. And I still cannot find anything in the "laws" covering it. It looks like NY grants permits of various restriction classes based on county levels, and allows hunting with Pistol throughout most of the State - but has not come out and said clearly...

I was REALLY not trying to stir up shit - I just want to know if it is legal or not to Non-concealed carry while hunting with a pistol. I have been searching all day and cannot find anything on the legality of it. I did email the Troopers as well as the DEC and am awaiting a response from...

So NY says "Concealed Carry", but also allows for Handgun hunting. How are we supposed to figure out what is the right way to go about this? Concealed is Concealed from everything I have read. Others say you can open carry if Hunting - where are the real rules on this, because I cannot find...

So my buddy stops by tonight, and he happens to be the FFL I am working with.... Dickhead brings me this and says "here ya go - you are all set". I was laughing, but still called him a douche bag. :)

A of of this is subjective. What works for you and your body type may not work for others. Try a few , keep what you like, and accept a loss on the ones you bought and don't like. Holsters are like 9mm VS 45. Get what works for you, your body type, your clothing and your preference.

W. T. F. Sheeple will still believe her.

I just got home and my son got a package off the porch. Holy hell Alien Gear - you guys ROCK. Ordered Tuesday, delivered today. I got the Shape Shift Kit along with an extra Mag holder in .45 / 10 mm. I am a "bit " buzzed so I will go through it in the AM, but holy crap are there a lot...

I am in Niagara County - been almost 3 months now I think. Probably will take 6 if I am lucky. I just could not pass up the deal I got, and if for some stupid reason I don't get approved the FFL can easily sell it for retail and I will make a few bucks. :-)

Actually, it is the FFL holding it. The bastard sent me a teaser pic late yesterday. As of yet, I have not actually seen it. I think he is really enjoying rubbing it in that he has it, and I can't have it LOL

Got the pistol, Holster is arriving tomorrow, and the belt is already wearing in. Just need the permit. :) This is my new baby, a S&W M&P Shield 45 Performance Center with Tritium sights.

Asshole - I just spit out my damn coffee! lol

Jesus - I go by that way every damn day. Wonder if it was a road rage incident? Not many details to be found at this point.

My brand new licence says "Not for Federal Purposes" where the star should be. lol

I was figuring 6 months or more, just because of my luck but I had some cash available, and the pistol was on sale, so I jumped on it. I will keep the updates coming as I go through the process. Thanks for all of the input - I really do appreciate it.

So a quick update - none of my references have been contacted yet other than the letter they had to fill out and return with all of the basic questions. Looks like I may be sitting in a pile on a desk somewhere at this point. No denial letter - so there is that as a plus! I talked to a buddy...

If the press actually reported EVERY time an armed legal citizen stopped an act of violence by even brandishing a firearm - none of this would be an issue. The left is playing the long con, and we will slowly but surely loose our rights, have weapons confiscated, and then be ruled by govt like...

Every school in the country should adopt this policy.

THEY need us WAY more than we need them. F the UN. I would not shed a single tear if Big T Daddy pulled out of the UN.

God I HATE it here.

THAT was really, really hard to watch. CNN just didn't know whether to shit or go blind.

De Niro has officially lost his goddamn mind. Punchy to the face asswipe.

I appreciate all of the feedback. I just want to CCW properly, and try to do the right thing. The county specific "rules" are not quote LAW unquote but can still get your permit yanked if you violate them. Niagara County is pretty relaxed from what I have been able to learn, but I regularly...

I am in Niagara County, and had to do the fingerprinting before they even began to process the application. And yeah, it was 100 bucks - but the county gets Zero Dollars of it.

When I was in the Marine Corps I had a designation for TS clearance - do you think that has anything to do with the quick turn around thus far?

Update: 21 days after I turned in my paperwork and fingerprints, all 4 of my references got the letter on the same day and all 4 have mailed it back. Seems to me like this is really quick for this part of the process. I will let you all know how things go throughout the process.

Yet another story about a LAW ABIDING concealed carry citizen saving the day. Don't bother looking for it on MSMS. This guy potentially saved lives, at least 4 that we know of now, and probably many more.

I have been around handguns all my life, and to be honest I don't know why I never got my permit until now - maybe just because it is such a pita, or sheer laziness. I have a best friend who has his FFL and get to shoot a ton of different weapons, and that Shield 45 just felt right the second I...

So, All of my paperwork is in, and being in Niagara County it is a concealed carry permit application, I am fingerprinted and now just have to wait. Does anyone from Niagara County know the average wait time to get one issued? I have already picked out and test fired my 1st Handgun - I have...

Can I like this 1000 times?

Really? I am surprised to hear that. I know a lot of guys who were denied just over stupid things like using blue ink, not having disposition letters, and even using references that have been arrested. I do appreciate the info!

THAT is good news - It is really appreciated. I am really surprised I cannot find anything, anywhere about it though. This process has been a serious pain in the ass - it is no wonder so many people don't bother. They make it as hard as possible to do. If even a single non black mark is on...

So I read through everything again, and there is literally almost no detail on anything for Niagara County. They are listed here: Pistol Permit Application Instructions and Other FAQ's They really did a disservice to all of us in Niagara County - the details are really lacking.

Thanks for the information - I appreciate it. I am no stranger to handling handguns, but I finally decided to apply for my permit, and will 100% put in the time and training as well as range time. Is NY a state where we are required to tell a police officer that we are carrying concealed if...

So I am in the process of getting my CCW in NY, Niagara County. I have no arrests, no jail time, nada. I have been searching for hours but cannot find any real rules or regulations on what I can and cannot do in NY with a CCW. Can you guys school me on pistol permits in NY? How many rounds...

They are not going to stop until they "try" to get full disarmament. Then there will be a fight, and a reboot. There is nothing that will stop NY State's illegal and leftist actions. We simply just don't have the numbers to vote them out. Once again - Thanks NYC and oh yeah - FUAC.

Wow - that guy looks like he is literally on the verge of exploding...something very wrong with those eyes. Typical Lib - use threats of violence against law abiding citizens to push the agenda.

Done!

I just don't even know how to accurately describe how disgusting this asshole really is. I am on a personal mission to get people out to the polls this year.

People need to be standing outside the doors of the School board all day, every day until this shit is pulled back. Teach TRUTH, not fiction!

With super liberal NYC behind him, he can do whatever he wants and will still be a Hero. Break CA up into 3 states, and NY into 2 and we will all be happy.

And your little dog Toto too!!!!

I will be at the Polls - so will EVERY GODDAMN member of the family that is of voting age, even if I have to fucking drag them by their teeth - we will get out and Vote. I am aggressively pushing everyone I know to do the same. We all have to do the same.

WHY does this video not have 10 million views? Perfect sense, and real honest truth in there.

Ryan knows Trump will be here for his entire two terms, and he sees the swamp draining. He is just getting out while on Top before something / someone comes after him. And Mitch.... good God, he can barely make a complete sentence - I swear he must have an earpiece in place with someone on...