So what is the real truth about Handgun Hunting?

Discussion in 'Hunting, Fishing & Camping' started by Devildog9999, Aug 1, 2018.

  1. Devildog9999

    Devildog9999 .45 acp U.S. Military

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    So NY says "Concealed Carry", but also allows for Handgun hunting. How are we supposed to figure out what is the right way to go about this? Concealed is Concealed from everything I have read. Others say you can open carry if Hunting - where are the real rules on this, because I cannot find anything.
     
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  2. Phauxtoe

    Phauxtoe .338 Win Mag

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    Step one - have a hunting license
    Step two - it should be hunting season
    Step three - be on location where you are able to hunt

    you will be fine
     
  3. 12GA

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    To my knowledge, unless you are in law enforcement or security, there is no provision in NYS law for handgun open carry. As nonsensical as it sounds, you must keep your firearm concealed until the time you are about to discharge it at your intended target.
     
  4. stokes

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    Just like you can "open carry" your rifle,or legal hunting implement,you can open carry your handgun or legal hunting implement,while hunting.
     
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  5. Doc8404

    Doc8404 .338 Win Mag

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    Wow.

    Also please cite where there is a provision in the law to open carry for security.
     
  6. 12GA

    12GA 22lr

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    I’m speaking of those who are employed in the security business e.g. armored vehicles like Brinks.
     
  7. Twogunwilly

    Twogunwilly .44 mag

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    I open carry along with every hunter in town all deer season, in the woods, truck, diner etc.. nobody cares.
     
  8. Doc8404

    Doc8404 .338 Win Mag

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    I know that. Please show us where it is allowed?? Please. Thx.
     
  9. Doc8404

    Doc8404 .338 Win Mag

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    I open carried the other day in stewarts.
    I’m still alive.
     
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  10. 12GA

    12GA 22lr

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    I’ll just leave this thread to the experts. Tnx for your interest.
     
  11. Willjr75

    Willjr75 .450/400 Nitro Ex U.S. Military

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    I may or may not have concealed carried in Washington DC. I'm still alive and a free man. I've also open carried a long magazine that may or may not have been a full 30 or a 10/30 at ranges and or in the woods. I'm still alive and a free man.

    The law makes no provision for open carry of any kind with pistols. Technically it's illegal but you won't be bothered if hunting.
     
  12. Carlos Hathcock

    Carlos Hathcock .308 Win

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    Who in the woods is going to call you out on it?
     
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  13. Eddie Gunks

    Eddie Gunks .308 Win NYGF Vendor Monthly Shot Winner

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    I will!
     
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  14. Doc8404

    Doc8404 .338 Win Mag

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    But what about armored car personnel?
     
  15. Doc8404

    Doc8404 .338 Win Mag

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    You made a matter of fact statement.
    I am simply asking for the law to be cited allowing them to do so legally.
     
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  16. Willjr75

    Willjr75 .450/400 Nitro Ex U.S. Military

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    It doesn't either. Their licenses say to have and carry concealed.
     
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  17. Carlos Hathcock

    Carlos Hathcock .308 Win

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    You can't. I'm wearing your stealth pants.
     
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  18. Jmac00

    Jmac00 .308 Win

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    TYPES OF PISTOL LICENSES
    (1) SPORTSMAN – (Target and Hunting) – For the underlined purposes, firearms may only be transported between your residence and an authorized target shooting range, a legal hunting area in New York State and while actually afield hunting. For the purpose of hunting, you are reminded that you must also possess a valid New York State hunting license and comply with DEC hunting regulations. Handguns must be carried concealed except when in the field hunting or on the target range for the purpose of target shooting. A sportsman license will be canceled if you relocate to another state.
     
  19. Willjr75

    Willjr75 .450/400 Nitro Ex U.S. Military

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    What Penal Law number?
     
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  20. Jmac00

    Jmac00 .308 Win

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    I got no clue, I Googled it and found this response. I have been open carrying handguns in the North country for years and no one said a thing. Like others, in the passed I have seen it written that you could open carry as long as you had a valid permit and you were ACTIVELY hunting
     
  21. Willjr75

    Willjr75 .450/400 Nitro Ex U.S. Military

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    That came from an old Suffolk County Police Pistol License Information Handbook.

    Only the NY Penal Law 265 and 400 have any weight in a court of law.
     
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  22. Jmac00

    Jmac00 .308 Win

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    here is what we do up north, we are on private land, but we are accessible from a public lake, we almost always open carry simply because there is no one around to tell us otherwise.
     
  23. Devildog9999

    Devildog9999 .45 acp U.S. Military

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    I was REALLY not trying to stir up shit - I just want to know if it is legal or not to Non-concealed carry while hunting with a pistol. I have been searching all day and cannot find anything on the legality of it. I did email the Troopers as well as the DEC and am awaiting a response from either of them. NY law says concealed carry - PERIOD. Yet they allow us to pistol hunt. How in the hell are you going to conceal a TC in .223 or .308? I am looking for a law, or a precedent that explains the legalities of hunting with a Pistol in NY with a CCW permit.
     
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  24. GOPerfect

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    Bullshit!
     
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  25. Doc8404

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    True story.
    Let me know where you work so I can OC there too.
     
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  26. Doc8404

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    About ready to now. This AIWB is killing me
     
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  27. BDinPutnam

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    I dunno.

    My permit says "license to carry pistol is hereby granted"

    It says nothing about concealed or otherwise.
     
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  28. Doc8404

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    As does mine.
    And on the back it says “RESTRICTIONS: - None”

    Of course it also says “this license is issued under the following conditions: 1. It is revocable at any time. “
     
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  29. thegatman

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    I open carry when hunting but my coat usually conceals it. If I go to a diner, the hunting pistol is locked up in the truck.
     
  30. Willjr75

    Willjr75 .450/400 Nitro Ex U.S. Military

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    That can write whatever they want on your permit. They can write hunting and target. They can write only on Sundays if wearing a red shirt. They can write only for employment. Ect. None of that means aanything. Penal law 400 is what grants you the type of licenses. Those are to have and carry concealed licenses.
     
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