2016 (and newer) 590a1. They finally got it right

[ECU Pirates]

I had a 590a1 and sold it. I wanted the 18.5 inch tube but hated that they only held 5. They wasted space under that barrel the could have been used to hold another shell. The newer models have fixed this (6+1) and added a forend that has rails on it. In my opinion it's now about the perfect shotgun (for HD). I'm going to order one soon. I will throw on a magpul stock with the shortest LOP and some tab shell solders and call it a day

590A1 - 7 Shot - Ghost Ring | O.F. Mossberg & Sons



Overbuilt and heavy. Just the way I like a shotgun I'm not carrying into the woods.

 

[Podmonkey]

Well that took long enough! It looks like they just slapped a tube extension on though, anyone could have done that. One piece tube would have been better, and cooler. And, and...... where's the bayo lug?!

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

I'm not the biggest shotgun guy but would like to be educated some. I'll have to look at my records but I think I've had my 7+1 persuader since about 2003 and it has served me well. I've fed it anything you can think of with no problems. What would be the enhancements between the OP's and mine? The obvious thing I see are the sites but is the action much different? Materials? Just wondering.

 

[Podmonkey]

I'm not the biggest shotgun guy but would like to be educated some. I'll have to look at my records but I think I've had my 7+1 persuader since about 2003 and it has served me well. I've fed it anything you can think of with no problems. What would be the enhancements between the OP's and mine? The obvious thing I see are the sites but is the action much different? Materials? Just wondering.

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Heavy barrel, metal trigger guard and safety. Standard ring sights. None of which are really necessary. Particularly the heavy walled barrel. The metal safety and sights are nice though. Everything else is, I belive, the same. Oh yeah except the finish. The 590A1s have a parked finish.

 

[ECU Pirates]

Well that took long enough! It looks like they just slapped a tube extension on though, anyone could have done that. One piece tube would have been better, and cooler. And, and...... where's the bayo lug?!

Bayo lug only on the 20 inch barrel (certain models).

 

[ECU Pirates]

I'm not the biggest shotgun guy but would like to be educated some. I'll have to look at my records but I think I've had my 7+1 persuader since about 2003 and it has served me well. I've fed it anything you can think of with no problems. What would be the enhancements between the OP's and mine? The obvious thing I see are the sites but is the action much different? Materials? Just wondering.

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If you have 7+1 it's a 20 inch barrel I think. I like the 18.5 personally. I have one with a 20 inch and xs ghost rings thought and like it very much. The 500's are fine and I have one that's from the 60's. It's seen countless shells and never had and issue. I like the 590 with ghost rings. I have even hunted deer with one. I'm just a fan of that sight system. I also like a heavy HD shotgun. The 590A1 is the only shotgun to pass some tough military tests. That is not really a big deal though. I just shot an 870 tactical (brand new) a week ago. It was nice and had great sights but it was not properly ejecting every so often. I prefer the older 870 police models.


"The Mossberg 590 and 590A1 are Mossberg’s premium defense guns. They utilize a different magazine tube that allows an extra shell to be loaded for a total of 9 shots on 20” barrel variants, and, like the model 500 and Maverick 88, there is a 6 shot 18.5” barrel version as well. This capacity advantage helps the 590 stand out among other defensive shotgun offerings available. Additionally, most 590 and all 590A1 models feature a bayonet lug, which is neat but definitely not a necessity.

The 590A1 series improves even further on the basic 590 by incorporating a much heavier barrel, a tough parkerized finish, and a metal safety button and trigger assembly. These features will prevent the gun from potentially being damaged by rough use, and it will also give the gun a good deal more heft, which can be good or bad depending on who will be using it."

A Guide to Tactical Mossberg 500 Series Shotguns - Lucky Gunner Lounge

 

[ECU Pirates]

I'm not the biggest shotgun guy but would like to be educated some. I'll have to look at my records but I think I've had my 7+1 persuader since about 2003 and it has served me well. I've fed it anything you can think of with no problems. What would be the enhancements between the OP's and mine? The obvious thing I see are the sites but is the action much different? Materials? Just wondering.

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The fore end also allows easy mounting of a light. You can buy them with rails for the 500 also though at little cost. Here is my 20in flex with that type of foreend:



No idea why that's so big. Sorry. I carry the flex in the truck quite a bit. It breaks down into three parts in seconds and can fit in a small bag.

 

[Podmonkey]

20" 590A1 is a 9 shell tube.

 

[ECU Pirates]

20" 590A1 is a 9 shell tube.

They are 8 +1.


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[Podmonkey]

They are 8 +1.


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Depends on the length of the shell of course but Mossberg quotes as a 9 shell capacity. I can typically fit 9 shells of 2 3/4 with folded crimps. Longer roll crimped stuff like Rio however I can only get 8 shells in.

 

[Deplorable Me]

Unless you're shooting slugs, does it make sense to put sights on a scatter gun? I've shot trap and popped moving targets at 40 yards with the bead sights. I've shot 590s with the ghost rings and find they inhibit reaction time and screw up my lead.

I own several Mossbergs, all with bead sights. Zero malfunctions in 35+ years of ownership. A very durable pump gun. I was hesitant at first but really like the parkerized finish. Ghost rings work excellent with slugs, just seem to conflict with shot. Vintage Mossberg wood furniture is really sweet.

I really wish they'd of kept the bayonet lug on the 7 shot 590 model.

BTW, Vietnam era skinny bayonets designed for the M16 fit the 590 bayonet lug really nice. Really light on a pistol grip setup.

 

[ECU Pirates]

Depends on the length of the shell of course but Mossberg quotes as a 9 shell capacity. I can typically fit 9 shells of 2 3/4 with folded crimps. Longer roll crimped stuff like Rio however I can only get 8 shells in.

Are you counting right? When they say it's a 9 shot they mean 8+1. The new 7 shot it 6+1. Mossberg never says "+1" when they list capacity on shotguns for some reason. You should not be able to fit 9 2 3/4 shells in.

" This model (51663) features a 20 inch barrel, 9 shot capacity ( 8 + 1), and ghost ring sight."

 

[Celt]

Well damn, another one on my short list.

 

[Podmonkey]

Unless you're shooting slugs, does it make sense to put sights on a scatter gun? I've shot trap and popped moving targets at 40 yards with the bead sights. I've shot 590s with the ghost rings and find they inhibit reaction time and screw up my lead.

I own several Mossbergs, all with bead sights. Zero malfunctions in 35+ years of ownership. A very durable pump gun. I was hesitant at first but really like the parkerized finish. Ghost rings work excellent with slugs, just seem to conflict with shot. Vintage Mossberg wood furniture is really sweet.

I really wish they'd of kept the bayonet lug on the 7 shot 590 model.

BTW, Vietnam era skinny bayonets designed for the M16 fit the 590 bayonet lug really nice. Really light on a pistol grip setup.

Its useful for getting on target quickly and accurately at close range when the shot colum hasn't expanded yet. Its not huge deal though. Like you say though makes conecting with slugs at longer range pretty easy though. Shooting 2 3/4 slugs out of my 590A1 is tremendously fun!
@ECU Pirates, unfortunately it has been a very long time since I've had the mossy out of the safe. I could have sworn I've fit 9 shells in the tube before. I'll double check when I hit home. That won't be for some weeks though.

 

[Justincase]

You need this. Ready to go right out of the box.

TBH, I have no idea what differentiates a 500 from a 590.

 

[CarpNY]

You need this. Ready to go right out of the box.

TBH, I have no idea what differentiates a 500 from a 590.

Well, in this case, the point of the OP (i.e., it has 6+1 vs. the 500 ATI's 5+1.) There are others, of course, but since that's the "it" that Mossberg finally "got ... right," I'll assume it's a deal breaker to not have it.

 

[ECU Pirates]

You need this. Ready to go right out of the box.

TBH, I have no idea what differentiates a 500 from a 590.

Ready to go to the garbage can.... JK! But I will pass on a heat shield, a pistol grip stock (even more so with the safety you can't reach with it on a Mossberg) and most anything ATI. Not a fan of their stuff. Also less capacity.

 

[Justincase]

Ready to go to the garbage can.... JK! But I will pass on a heat shield, a pistol grip stock (even more so with the safety you can't reach with it on a Mossberg) and most anything ATI. Not a fan of their stuff. Also less capacity.

. I'm gonna go to my safe space now.

 

[ECU Pirates]

. I'm gonna go to my safe space now.

That comment on safety trigger you? Haha


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[Justincase]

^ Ha. I see what you did there...

 

[BamBam]

Personally, my 590a1 18.5" is perfect for me... 5+1 is plenty and my Sureshell carrier holds another 6 shells. Tube extensions available if needed so no concern about that. GR sights are over rated IMO. Collapsable stock a huge plus and came with mine new. Quick detach Magpul sling, Magpul forend and MTR 3 slot rail for my light also added (I don't like extra shit on the forend itself). Bayo lug nice to have but I won't loose sleep over it . I would probably hurt myself with it before someone else... haha.