Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
What FMJ weight bullet performs best with 1:9 rifling? Carbine length, if that matters.
Robin
Robin
.223 / 5.56
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GUNSICK
6.5 Creedmoor
Blimey
.450/400 Nitro Ex
"the best for your twist"
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
Interesting, never saw that chart before, thanks GUNSICK. Thinking of buying some bulk and don't want to stick myself with something that doesn't give me the best chance for consistent accuracy. I don't reload the .223/5.56 and the 55gr's Are okay, I just think the gun is capable of better. It's a Mini, go up 5gr's or down 5gr's? hmmmm, dunno.
Robin
Robin
Up to and including 69gr.
Bulk 62gr 5.56 is most likely to be M855 ball and this is not a particularly accurate load. Their will always be some varience in the concentricity of the mild steel core. GGG however does make a very good performing M855 load and I highly recommend it.
For good performing bulk 5.56 M193 and its clones are your best bet. Also, Hornady has the 55gr HP Match load under their American Gunner brand that is pretty accurate for the price. If you see any on sale for $120 or less per the 247rnd can I think it's worth it.
I am also having good luck with Agulia's 55gr 5.56 load and they also offer a 62gr load that may be be a lead core bullet but I'm not sure on that. I also find the Fiocchi 5.56/223 ammo to be good for the price and they do offer a non steel cord 62gr load. They also offer the standard M855 clone so be aware when you are shopping them.
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
Not a lot of choices when buying in bulk. 62 gr is in the chart circle, any opinions on whether I'll get good stabilization and accuracy?
Robin
Robin
All steel core ammo is garbage. It will penetrate, but it doesn't group well. Shoot ammo with match grade bullets from Hornady and Sierra, for accuracy.
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
Anyone try the PPU 62 gr., no steel core.
Robin
Robin
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
Mosin, I don't want steel core. This is mostly for fun shooting and banging around in the back forty, maybe a woodchuck at a hundred yards or so. If it will bust a clay pigeon at 150 yards consistently, I'm happy.
Robin
Robin
I've used them before and they work. Decent middle of the road ammo and nothing special. Federal is running a rebate special now and with the rebate it runs about .30/rd. Again nothing special but adequate normal plinking and target shooting.
Federal American Eagle 223 Remington Ammo 62 Grain FMJ
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
When in doubt, buy American!
Robin
Robin
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Any 55 gr or 62 gr will do if you want to mess around. I qualified with both at targets up to 500 yards. You won't get match grade accuracy with bulk box ammo but you'll hit the target.
That GGG stuff shoots pretty well for me.
I am going to revisit my ammo comparisons once I get my AR scoped.
@Robin, I bought some of that Aguila 62gr. Their 7.62x51 does exceptionally well in my Galil, I'll post some groups ofnthe 62gr later.
Nice thing about Agulia is that Gander occasionally runs killer deals on it.
No deal this time but $17 per 50 isn't horrible for retail ammo.
What's GGG and what do you consider well shooting ammo? I understand this is all relative and OP is just a plinker, but he cares about accuracy or he wouldn't ask. There is a lot of popular shooting activity that involves shooting man sized targets at pistol distances. Any ammo will do for that. Shooting groups at distances is a different story.
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It's a Lithuanian ammo factory. They produce top notch bulk/mil spec ammo.
I was using a red dot in my last ammo comparison so I don't want to list groups sizes as my shooting was erratic that day. I will say that the GGG M855 shot better than any of the other bulk ammo I shot that day and Inwas getting groups that were only beaten by the expensive match stuff I had like the IMI and Black Hills 77g mk262 loads.
I'd say it's solid 2 MOA ammo, possibly better.
Like I said before, after I scope my rifle I will retest it along with the others.
I didn't even know they existed. They are not known in highpower shooting community. 2 MOA is nothing to write home about. Black Hills 77g will shoot sub-1MOA. It is loaded with Sierra Matchking 77 HPBT bullet. It's a match bullet originally developed by Sierra for highpower rifle competition. It was adopted by the military for special forces and marksmanship applications. 1:9 twist is insufficient for 77gr. There is a similar Sierra Matchking 69 grain bullet which will work in 1:9 barrels. It's available in commercially loaded ammo or Robin can load it himself. He probably will be shooting from the bench, so why limit the accuracy.
We are talking about bulk ammo. Not match ammo. The cheapest 5.56 77gr OTM ammo out there right now is the Magtech stuff. It runs around .60 a shot. The GGG M855 is half that.
And 2 MOA is pretty good, excellent for M855 wich is typically 3-4 MOA ammo.
The big problem with it is its not commonly found in brick and mortar stores so NYers unfortunately have limited access to it. I think Target Sports stocks it occasionally though.
It really is good ammo. You can see the care of manufacture in the cleanliness and uniformity of the ammo's appearance, the annealing is very even and uniform, the primer sealant is likewise applied very evenly and neatly. I have to imagine this consistency carries over to the components as well.
He can load match grade ammo for less then 60 cents per round. It cost me much less, I buy components in bulk. Brass cost me nothing.
Acer-m14
.950 JDJ
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
Yes, it's a Mini. I do not load for the 5.56, and have no plans to. It is just a gun I enjoy shooting, I like the action, the way it feels off the bench. Shooting off hand its not punishing but you know you pulled the trigger on something. If someone enjoys shooting in general I cannot imagine them not enjoying a Mini.
Robin
Robin
@thewheels
.308 Win
The only thing I'd probably avoid for accuracy reasons is (X)M855 unless you go with @Podmonkey's suggestion for the GGG stuff.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
So now that we know that it's a Mini 14 with a 1x9 twist, what do you guys think would be a little more accurate in that barrel for up to about 100 yards and change with bulk type ammo?
55gr or 62gr? Velocity vs slightly longer?
55gr or 62gr? Velocity vs slightly longer?
For plinking always 55gr, regardless of twist.
That said, I will see how these non M855 62gr Agulias do.
That said, I will see how these non M855 62gr Agulias do.
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
It was a 1:9 carbine length in post #1
A mini in post #4
Still a Mini at post #21
And still a carbine length 1:9 at post #27
I ordered 62gr. American Eagles. Hope they fly alright, got a lot of them.
Robin
A mini in post #4
Still a Mini at post #21
And still a carbine length 1:9 at post #27
I ordered 62gr. American Eagles. Hope they fly alright, got a lot of them.
Robin
@thewheels
.308 Win
IMO, you're gtg. If they don't shoot well from your Mini, post them for sale. And try, try again.