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What to punch paper at long range then go with a proven yet affordable solution that will allow you to shoot more both
ammo and barrel life. that is how you learn.
So other than the 223 and 223AI themselves one needs to look into the 6mm like a 6mm BR or a 6mm-6.8 or the 6mmAR
based on the grendel that will give a substantial performance increase over the 223 but w/o going crazy as the budget
is pretty much the same and there is not so much powder that barrel will last for a while. (Accuracy life I mean)
Other than punching paper or maybe hitting some steel for the sake of it, if you want real performance you need to
look into the 7mm and above. The 7mm-08 will do everything any 6mm,6.5mm and even the 308 will do and much more
if you want to actually hunt with it.
Trajectories and accuracy of the 7mm is similar to the 6mm and 6.5mm due to the 7mm having the best ballistic coefficients
on average but the difference is that it puts more energy and momentum (aslo killing potential ) on the target.
Barrels also will last a lot more than the 6.5mm and 6mm unless you go with the lower capacity 6mm mentioned above
that is another good reason. 100fps-200fps more or less is not going to change your capabilities yet it saves a lot of powder
and one of those small 6mm (like the 223) will force you to be a better shooter and you will be better so when you
are ready to rebarrel or step up will know more by shooting a lot on a more budget friendly round.
The 308 barrel will last more but will have the most aggresive trajectories and you need to put too much grain for the
round. with all that said, if the super long range shooting is ocasional you could reload for CNC bullets and in 308
they will give you capability and trajectory very similar to a 6.5 or 6mm but with more energy on the target.
The 6mm and 6.5mm max in legth and case / bore ratio before the can be more efficient with CNC solid bullets while
the 308 or 7mm benefit from it.
So in summary, if you want something to get good a 223 match will do but otherwise a 6mm BR is a world champion
in terms of accuracy and w/o going crazy budget wise.
But if you move from there I would stay with the 7mm/08 and reload or the 308 itself with CNC bullets for the very long
range and match bulelts for the average range. Both are extremely accurate in good rifles.
you will run out of skill/experience before you run out of range I can tell you that so better use something you can shoot
longer and more economically w/o rebarrelling.
6mm overbored like the 243, 6xc, 6lapua, 6mm creedmore and 260, 6.5x47 and 6.5creed are not great barrel savers
and accuracy life of the barrel will be a lot shorter. I can tell you the 260 that is very accurate, the life is around 1000-1200
for a top end barrel like a krieger (I went through 3 of those). 6mm is even less and while is good caliber with lots
less powder yet perormance is very good.
308 life will be in the 7,000 and 7mm not too far behind just because of the larger case/bore ratio.
I would worry more about the prefessional training than the rifle but if you want to have a very good rifle any of those
will do and a 6mm in low capacity will be a very very wise choice just because the bullets are so much better and
verstaile than the 22 for long distance and/or hunting.
But If I want to shoot occasionally with the 308 and CNC I can do the same any of these other calibers will do and
In the end I will have a battle tested, proven round that can do so many other things. Same idea as the 5.56 but
in the big boys league. the 308 will deliver up to 1600 yards supersonic like any other caliber. Expensive rounds
but if you put everything in a balance and save the extreme long range ammo for when you only do that then
you have all those options. Still can load a 180gr grain bullet and take down a grizzly that you cannot do with
a 6mm or 6.5mm.
Forget about rifles and casings and fashions and choose first a bullet and what range or speed you need.
Then the rest is building around that bullet and desired performance.
The 7mm perhaps will give the most versatility between the two worlds of target and actual practical use.
Just be realistic, how far are you going to shoot and how far you will be able to hit something regardless how good the gun and ammo is? My first advise is save as much as you can in equipment and spend it in professional training.
ammo and barrel life. that is how you learn.
So other than the 223 and 223AI themselves one needs to look into the 6mm like a 6mm BR or a 6mm-6.8 or the 6mmAR
based on the grendel that will give a substantial performance increase over the 223 but w/o going crazy as the budget
is pretty much the same and there is not so much powder that barrel will last for a while. (Accuracy life I mean)
Other than punching paper or maybe hitting some steel for the sake of it, if you want real performance you need to
look into the 7mm and above. The 7mm-08 will do everything any 6mm,6.5mm and even the 308 will do and much more
if you want to actually hunt with it.
Trajectories and accuracy of the 7mm is similar to the 6mm and 6.5mm due to the 7mm having the best ballistic coefficients
on average but the difference is that it puts more energy and momentum (aslo killing potential ) on the target.
Barrels also will last a lot more than the 6.5mm and 6mm unless you go with the lower capacity 6mm mentioned above
that is another good reason. 100fps-200fps more or less is not going to change your capabilities yet it saves a lot of powder
and one of those small 6mm (like the 223) will force you to be a better shooter and you will be better so when you
are ready to rebarrel or step up will know more by shooting a lot on a more budget friendly round.
The 308 barrel will last more but will have the most aggresive trajectories and you need to put too much grain for the
round. with all that said, if the super long range shooting is ocasional you could reload for CNC bullets and in 308
they will give you capability and trajectory very similar to a 6.5 or 6mm but with more energy on the target.
The 6mm and 6.5mm max in legth and case / bore ratio before the can be more efficient with CNC solid bullets while
the 308 or 7mm benefit from it.
So in summary, if you want something to get good a 223 match will do but otherwise a 6mm BR is a world champion
in terms of accuracy and w/o going crazy budget wise.
But if you move from there I would stay with the 7mm/08 and reload or the 308 itself with CNC bullets for the very long
range and match bulelts for the average range. Both are extremely accurate in good rifles.
you will run out of skill/experience before you run out of range I can tell you that so better use something you can shoot
longer and more economically w/o rebarrelling.
6mm overbored like the 243, 6xc, 6lapua, 6mm creedmore and 260, 6.5x47 and 6.5creed are not great barrel savers
and accuracy life of the barrel will be a lot shorter. I can tell you the 260 that is very accurate, the life is around 1000-1200
for a top end barrel like a krieger (I went through 3 of those). 6mm is even less and while is good caliber with lots
less powder yet perormance is very good.
308 life will be in the 7,000 and 7mm not too far behind just because of the larger case/bore ratio.
I would worry more about the prefessional training than the rifle but if you want to have a very good rifle any of those
will do and a 6mm in low capacity will be a very very wise choice just because the bullets are so much better and
verstaile than the 22 for long distance and/or hunting.
But If I want to shoot occasionally with the 308 and CNC I can do the same any of these other calibers will do and
In the end I will have a battle tested, proven round that can do so many other things. Same idea as the 5.56 but
in the big boys league. the 308 will deliver up to 1600 yards supersonic like any other caliber. Expensive rounds
but if you put everything in a balance and save the extreme long range ammo for when you only do that then
you have all those options. Still can load a 180gr grain bullet and take down a grizzly that you cannot do with
a 6mm or 6.5mm.
Forget about rifles and casings and fashions and choose first a bullet and what range or speed you need.
Then the rest is building around that bullet and desired performance.
The 7mm perhaps will give the most versatility between the two worlds of target and actual practical use.
Just be realistic, how far are you going to shoot and how far you will be able to hit something regardless how good the gun and ammo is? My first advise is save as much as you can in equipment and spend it in professional training.
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