7 or 10 rounds edc
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Truebeliever
6.5 Creedmoor
The NYS court of appeals has already ruled that if a federal judge in one federal district finds against the state, it applies to the whole state. When the 2nd circuit upheld it, it also applies to CT. The “assault pump rifle” named is also now case law protected. So, if one is arrested by a police officer solely based on having 10 rounds in a magazine, the judge will throw out the charges and a civil suit will result in money for that person. That is in addition to any fines that court might impose.
Truebeliever
6.5 Creedmoor
Are you referring to the increase of the age of being considered an adult by the criminal justice system or just juvenile law in general?
Most cops avoid juvenile cases altogether if they can. Just the age difference of what is a fingerprintable offense is such a pain. The separate lodging is also a pain. And just to see no real form of accountability on top of the extra work involved , it’s not worth it.
Defend my virginity plz.
I edited your post... Can only examine your magazine if suspected of "that" crime itself as carrying isn't a criminal act. Just because you "have" a gun, doesn't allow for it to be taken, searched, seized it whatnot... And the suspicion would have to be based upon some factual evidence, not a hunch or whim... Arbitrary search would be thrown out and likely result in a counter lawsuit for damages due to violations against unreasonable searches... Just saying!
FrankenCub
.338 Win Mag
This is the part that I refer to. I interpret it as needing more than the officer's suspicion of carrying too many rounds.I edited your post... Can only examine your magazine if suspected of "that" crime itself as carrying isn't a criminal act. Just because you "have" a gun, doesn't allow for it to be taken, searched, seized it whatnot... And the suspicion would have to be based upon some factual evidence, not a hunch or whim... Arbitrary search would be thrown out and likely result in a counter lawsuit for damages due to violations against unreasonable searches... Just saying!
Not going to be hard to make up an excuse to claim you are doing something unlawful but they better have a strong suspicion that could hold up in court if BS. I still can't find my copy so this is part of it I found on the web. Still looking for mine.
edit: And this from policeone.com...
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Celt
.338 Win Mag
The western district court ruled 7 was vague. If i remember correctly that would technically only be counted in the Western District of New York, but if someone were arrested and it went to court that ruling would then stand for the entire state.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
The Western district ruling is no longer relevant. The higher 2nd Circuit ruling is the only one that matters now.
Uzi
.308 Win
Forgive me. I thought the second ruling was the one made within the western district, so when upholding that decision, it only applied to that part of the state.
Celt
.338 Win Mag
Agreed.
Celt
.338 Win Mag
I'm not aware of this Will, what's the story with this.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Post Number 54 explains everything.
jimc
.223 Rem
Here's the annoying part... From NYSafe Act - Gun Owners | SafeAct (just copy and pasted right now):
Q: How many rounds can I put in my magazine?
A: While at a recognized range, whether you are there for recreation or for participating in shooting competitions, you may load the full ten rounds into any magazine you have. Starting on April 15, 2013, you are limited to putting 7 rounds in the magazine in all other locations.
Q: How many rounds can I put in my magazine?
A: While at a recognized range, whether you are there for recreation or for participating in shooting competitions, you may load the full ten rounds into any magazine you have. Starting on April 15, 2013, you are limited to putting 7 rounds in the magazine in all other locations.
FrankenCub
.338 Win Mag
Why would the state update it when the ignorant will follow along like ducks.
This isn't the penal law, just some website
jimc
.223 Rem
That's true, but it's NY's official website that is supposed to (according to it's own words), be a '...one-stop resource for New Yorkers to better understand how the NY SAFE act does and does not affect you'.
I agree it's not the law, but it also misleads people into thinking they can only load 7 rounds. As a government website designed to educate the public about he the law, the least they can do is keep it accurate.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
And in the end of it all in the small chance you actually do get charged for 7 in a 10, the ADA cannot point to a website to convict you. They can only point to the Penal Law. And even if the Penal Law isn't changed, they cannot convict you on a nullified law changed by a Federal Circuit Court.
So if you have 30rd mags you can put in 7 and that's ok? LMAO!! Why are 30rd mags illegal yet my 10rd mags are just fine if I were to load just 7? Pistol vs Rifle? How about I don't give a shit! We have children running this state.
Because 30 round mags are banned 10 round mags are not banned.
As a side note, even though it wasn't really enforced NYS banned 30 round mags long before the safe act.
2004 after the Clinton awb, but they grandfathered any magazine overy 10 rounds into the state if they were made prior to 1994, so you could the day after or even up until the day before the safe act, buy 30 round maga, just so long as they were made prior to 1994
Truebeliever
6.5 Creedmoor
Then NYS made above 10 round magazines illegal with no grandfather clause.
The only people who are allowed above 10 round magazines are LEO ;or other authorized government actors ( military etc) on official business, and more recently retired officers get to have the magazines for the specific gun they qualified with in their last 12 months of their employment and must requal to retain that magazine.
So any rifle magazines I would have had over 10 rounds still in my possession would be a felony since I didn’t qualify with a rifle in my last 12 months.
A retired cop friend of mine who had cancer and could not requal in his last 12 months before retirement can not keep his above 10 magazines.
https://t.co/1LaxjXlwC9?amp=1
BS unsafe act arrest, BTW. Something tells me no one in the car even had a PP. Pisses me off that the media is happy to play along with this charade.
BS unsafe act arrest, BTW. Something tells me no one in the car even had a PP. Pisses me off that the media is happy to play along with this charade.
Buffalo firefighter reports gun stolen from vehicle parked at fire station
Hmm, had an "extended magazine" but made sure to only have 7 rds. I'd also be surprised if the BFD didn't have a no guns at work policy.
Hmm, had an "extended magazine" but made sure to only have 7 rds. I'd also be surprised if the BFD didn't have a no guns at work policy.
BMF JK
.44 mag
WTF Here we go !!!! I’m assuming the criminal possession of a weapon was the primary charge and the 10 round BS was just for fun ?
4 Buffalo men charged with gun possession, SAFE Act violation
4 Buffalo men charged with gun possession, SAFE Act violation
Cleck
.308 Win
WTF Here we go !!!! I’m assuming the criminal possession of a weapon was the primary charge and the 10 round BS was just for fun ?
4 Buffalo men charged with gun possession, SAFE Act violation
Came here to post this, just read it. I really want to see what happens with this
BMF JK
.44 mag
X2 on that !
The guys are fucked is what will happen.
1) weed in the car
2) pistol in the car and it is unclear of it was registered on a permit
3) they got another charge for the 7 rounds because of 1 and 2
One of the four will flip on the guy who actually owned the pistol when he see he is facing ass rape jail time.
This is a bad example as there were other reasons these guys got bound up.
1) weed in the car
2) pistol in the car and it is unclear of it was registered on a permit
3) they got another charge for the 7 rounds because of 1 and 2
One of the four will flip on the guy who actually owned the pistol when he see he is facing ass rape jail time.
This is a bad example as there were other reasons these guys got bound up.
BMF JK
.44 mag
Still shouldn’t be a charge for 10 rds in a mag .
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
Just run with 7 and carry a NY reload ..