80% lowers and out of state possession.

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So I've said in the past that my ultimate goal is to get competing in three gun. Being that I wouldn't want to run in NY State restricted matches, I'm basically planning to travel to PA and other states to compete. I have my guns set up as such so that I can switch from NY compliant to three gun ready with a couple Allen keys and a punch or two.
My biggest dilemna has been the deplorable wait time for the suffolk county permit process.
So here's my idea. Being that I'm not allowed to own a handgun in NY yet, but am legally allowed to in other states, can I build out an 80% in PA and keep it there and just transfer it to my permit through an FFL when the time comes that I have it. I'm assuming if it never touches land in NY I won't have any issues correct? And because it's an 80% cross state issues are not present.
Am I missing anything here?
 
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I see it the same as you do. Should be GTG. You can also take the gun apart and the lower in NYS is not illegal at this point. Only being up together as a pistol is illegal. I’d leave a few pistol parts in PA and not travel with everything just to be safe.

Others might know more or something I don’t, but I agree with you.
 
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Saltwater60 said:
I see it the same as you do. Should be GTG. You can also take the gun apart and the lower in NYS is not illegal at this point. Only being up together as a pistol is illegal. I’d leave a few pistol parts in PA and not travel with everything just to be safe.

Others might know more or something I don’t, but I agree with you.
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Hadn't considered that about having it in NY. May keep the barrel in PA or something. Thanks. Want to confirm that first though.
 
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get your ar lower as a pistol where you can .. come to NY make it a rifle .. i think i got that right .. once a rifle always a rifle .. pistol can flip flop .. FUAC

if its a 80% no one knows what you have ;) last i knew undocumented kids are good to go ;)
 
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Acer-m14 said:
get your ar lower as a pistol where you can .. come to NY make it a rifle .. i think i got that right .. once a rifle always a rifle .. pistol can flip flop .. FUAC

if its a 80% no one knows what you have ;) last i knew undocumented kids are good to go ;)
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.. glock pattern pistol frame, not an AR pistol.
 
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ok breaking it down ... lets see if i get the just of this ..

Exonautic said:
So here's my idea. Being that I'm not allowed to own a handgun in NY yet, but am legally allowed to in other states, can I build out an 80% in PA and keep it there and just transfer it to my permit through an FFL when the time comes that I have it. I'm assuming if it never touches land in NY I won't have any issues correct? And because it's an 80% cross state issues are not present.
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yellow .. you have no PP in NY ..
Green .. if you have a PP in PA . why go with a 80% ? just get one there ..
Blue .. i'm confused ...

in NY .. with no PP and over 18 or 21 some age in that area .. you legally can not touch a pistol in NY PERIOD!!! ..
under that age can under certain rules can touch and shoot pistols ..
FUAC ..

I pretty sure i can get a PP from FL with no NY PP .. but i still can't touch it in NY .. i would have to go to FL to pew pew or a state that recognizes FL PP
 
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Acer-m14 said:
ok breaking it down ... lets see if i get the just of this ..



yellow .. you have no PP in NY ..
Green .. if you have a PP in PA . why go with a 80% ? just get one there ..
Blue .. i'm confused ...

in NY .. with no PP and over 18 or 21 some age in that area .. you legally can not touch a pistol in NY PERIOD!!! ..
under that age can under certain rules can touch and shoot pistols ..
FUAC ..

I pretty sure i can get a PP from FL with no NY PP .. but i still can't touch it in NY .. i would have to go to FL to pew pew or a state that recognizes FL PP
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I have no legal residence in PA but do have homes in which I can store a handgun in. Due to federal law I can not buy a pistol in another state regardless if I have a carry permit there. You are required to take transfer of all non long guns in your home state, which includes receivers.

Pa does not have a pistol permit process. Only one for carry. The majority of states do not have a pistol permit process like new York, only the 7 liberal states filled with BS. In Pa it's like a long gun. I buy it, walk out, no one has to be registered. However because I'm a new York resident I can't purchase a pistol in PA.

So, 80% circumvents the purchase issue.
Building it myself circumvents the permit issue.
Doing all of this in Pa where it's perfectly legal prevents NY from jamming a red hot gavel so far up my ass I choke on it when I say "not guilty".

It'll still be illegal if I try bringing it into NY, but federally speaking I'd be in the clear as long as it doesn't cross the ny border
 
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If you buy a regular stripped lower here in NY, it's marked as an other. You then take it to PA and build it as a pistol. It is now a pistol legal in PA. Once in PA, you can turn it into a NY compliant rifle there and bring it back to NY. If you go back to PA, you can turn legally turn it back to a pistol.

You don't need a 80 percent lower unless you are using a real pistol a like a 1911 or Glock since you cannot buy a regular pistol in PA unless you are a PA resident or in NY unless you are a NY resident and a permit holder.
 
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If you buy a regular stripped lower here in NY, it's marked as an other. You then take it to PA and build it as a pistol. It is now a pistol legal in PA. Once in PA, you can turn it into a NY compliant rifle there and bring it back to NY. If you go back to PA, you can turn legally turn it back to a pistol.

You don't need a 80 percent lower unless you are using a real pistol a like a 1911 or Glock since you cannot buy a regular pistol in PA unless you are a PA resident or in NY unless you are a NY resident and a permit holder.
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See post #6. Polymer 80 Glock 17.
 
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No, they have a permit for carry, I meant no permit for ownership, sorry should of been clearer
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i'm sure there close to same as NY .. CCW permit , even in NYC you need a premise permit .. ... if i made a 80% and get nabbed with it in house .. i'm up the creek ... if you cant buy a pistol in PA without a PP then your 80% is do not get caught with it PERIOD ..

but i'm not up on PA law ..
 
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Acer-m14 said:
i'm sure there close to same as NY .. CCW permit , even in NYC you need a premise permit .. ... if i made a 80% and get nabbed with it in house .. i'm up the creek ... if you cant buy a pistol in PA without a PP then your 80% is do not get caught with it PERIOD ..

but i'm not up on PA law ..
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No, PA is more like free America. The only permit they have is to carry. You can possess a handgun without a permit. Just a 4473.
 
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