A safety warning about worn leather holsters!
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That is why I am moving to kydex, or similarly rigid, holsters only.
Deplorable Me
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Leather underwear will do the same thing.................
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Yep. Me too. Full 360 degree Kydex or nothing. Even the hybrid holsters with leather on the back and kydex on the front can fail.
Uzi
.308 Win
Just one of the reasons I only use kydex holsters now. I wasn't comfortable chambering my handguns that don't use external safeties when a soft material like leather can wear/flex around and into the trigger guard.
My big problem with the hybrids is they lose retention once the leather side molds in. I have a crossbreed for my shield that used to retain the gun if you flipped it over and shook it. Now it just falls out when you turn it over. I am hesitant to replace it though as I'm looking to maybe replace the Shield with the P365.
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
It appears that the wrong holster was used for that gun, the owner knew the holster was worn and kept using it, and the leather was treated with something that made it soft enough to deform like that - I've never seen a Galco holster flop like that. Don't blame the tool if the guy behind the gun is a knuckle head.
Just a heads-up, as kydex and other plastic holsters wear, fatigue and crack, they're going to develop little plastic fingers that will poke where they don't belong. Inspect your equipment before you use it.
Just a heads-up, as kydex and other plastic holsters wear, fatigue and crack, they're going to develop little plastic fingers that will poke where they don't belong. Inspect your equipment before you use it.
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
Thinner material, less printing, plus the weapon clears the holster leaner and easier. Granted, I have only had a Kydex holster fo a month but that is my experience, lighter too. No going back now.
Robin
Robin
Carlos Hathcock
.450/400 Nitro Ex
That holster looked like it was made to holster a baked potato, not a gun. Looked like some "universal" POS holster.
There's already "holes" in his story...
"When I straightened again, my Glock 19 discharged, blowing a 9mm hole through my pants, underwear, the leather seat and bottom of the car’s door frame."
A 9mm would be lucky to get though the underwear and pants, maybe the seat but no way it went through the door frame.
There's already "holes" in his story...
"When I straightened again, my Glock 19 discharged, blowing a 9mm hole through my pants, underwear, the leather seat and bottom of the car’s door frame."
A 9mm would be lucky to get though the underwear and pants, maybe the seat but no way it went through the door frame.
Eddie Gunks
.338 Win Mag
Looks like an ugly wound
IMO that was not a very good holster for that gun. It looks like it was barely large enough to cover the trigger when new.
Also, for a kink like that in the leather......how about looking at your gear once or twice....... s day, week, month......that did not happen overnight.
I am confident carrying in any and all of my leather holsters.
Now lets talk about those cheap fabric “holsters”
IMO that was not a very good holster for that gun. It looks like it was barely large enough to cover the trigger when new.
Also, for a kink like that in the leather......how about looking at your gear once or twice....... s day, week, month......that did not happen overnight.
I am confident carrying in any and all of my leather holsters.
Now lets talk about those cheap fabric “holsters”
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livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
One has to inspect your equipment on occasion Clearly the owner was at fault for not replacing this defect ..... Leather has been around for years without problems ... He just tried to push the limit of this holster well beyond the design it was intended for.
MothMan
.338 Win Mag
Sideguard leather pancake OWB, cut and boned for a G27. Four years old, wear it everyday no sagging or deformation good retention. Eric does a real good job. Have another Sidegaurd for a .40 cal American Arms Pitbull revolver. No problems here haven’t worn plastic in quite awhile.
Glenn B
.308 Win
There were a lot of theories going around about how he really got shot and as I recall, remember this took place several years ago, many of those ideas were that he shaped the holster, to have it hit the trigger, after the fact. In other words, it was alleged by some that he may have deformed the holster after he shot himself because he had his finger on the trigger. Me, I have no clue if it happened the way he said it did or not. If it happened how he said it did though, because the holster was faulty or worn and bent, as I see it, it was seemingly mostly if not all due to error.
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The following is my opinion: I think it strange how the holster just happened to deform where and so it would stick into the trigger guard. Strange unless you consider that the pistol maybe had been improperly holstered many times. Imagine that the owner/user twisted the pistol a little as he holstered it. Then try to think of what could have caused that deformation during improper holstering. It looks to me as if it's possible the leading edge of the bottom of the trigger guard may have caught there many times and pulled the leather into that shape over time.
That deformation, I think, almost certainly did not just happen all of a sudden - well, I think unless it was purposefully manipulated into that shape. The guy reportedly even admitted it formed into that shape over time and he knew it! So, if that was indeed the case, it should have the holster should have been replaced but instead it was ignored - or the deformation possibly was done intentionally and a story made up to kind of save face but that seems a bit unlikely - why put it out there at all if that was the case. Of course some people seek the attention even if it makes them look absurd or foolish.
I have to say though that in over 38 years of wearing leather holsters and in about 15 years of having collateral duties as a firearms instructor where the shooters wore mostly leather holsters, I never once witnessed a similar failure of a leather holster and I saw lots of worn out and otherwise abused holsters. Nylon holsters were another story but even with them I never saw the same exact type of deformation. This one has me wondering what really happened but I suppose it could have just developed over time as he said it did and was ignored for the most part as far as getting a replacement went.
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Glenn B
.308 Win
Why not? I have done it for many years. There should be no problems at all with a pistol like a Glock in such a holster. I never had any problems carrying a Glock in a leather holster so long as my gun and holster were both in good shape and thus that means: I had no problems at all - not ever - even when using the same holster for several years. I now use a Kydex holster with leather belt attachment for my Glock 26 but only because my son bought it as a gift for me and it works well too. Yet, I still like leather holsters, high quality ones; I recently ordered one for my Glock 30.
Looks to me that this gun owner paid very little attention to his gear.
This was not the holsters fault, no this was due to operator error.
Maintain your gear and incidents like this will never happen.
This was not the holsters fault, no this was due to operator error.
Maintain your gear and incidents like this will never happen.
I think you have that round confused with the 45ACP! 45 would have barely made it out of the gun,.