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Ammo background check law
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Budds
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
hay budds .. they have no database still or a way to do it .. just like last time ..
northny
.40 S&W
Funny that this should be mentioned. I have been in PA just over a year, In that time the topic of having a toll barrier on I81 at NY border has come up twice. Supposedly Penn DOT requested it to pay for the maintenance of the first couple of bridges in the state on I81. It seemed a strange request as this isn’t done for any other bridges in state on I81 or I80 or…..( the exception being the Penn Turnpike which is a toll road). The state thought it an odd request and turned it down.
maybe it wasn’t such an odd request.
northny
.40 S&W
I understand the above was humor, but in the spirit of pointing out the draconian Massachusetts laws which are particularly bad on ammo…
Anyone in MA without a MA FID ( long gun permit) or LTC ( handgun or large capacity rifle) in possession of ammunition or ammunition components (even spent shell casings) is subject to up to a 10 year sentence. Living there I made sure not even a spent .22 casing from my boots was left in truck in case wife borrowed it.
plus if you parked your car to grab a coffee you are no longer “transporting”ammo (which isnt required to be locked up) but are now “storing” ammo (which is required to be locked up)
US RIFLE M1A
.45 acp
There's a small shop off the interstate in PA south of Binghamton. Stop for a pee at the PA welcome center and get off the next exit.
nyhunter
22lr
I have stocked up with 9mm from Buds online during most of July. They still got plenty of 9 ammo, but not much else like 38 Spl or 357 which are the popular calibers, and what I also shoot in my pistols and lever guns. The 9 ammo prices at Buds are the lowest I could find and comparable or better than TargetsportsUSA which BTW has higher shipping costs unless you order a whole case. Sure, I paid $16-$17 per box for ammo I was paying $10-$12 for 3 years ago, but we don't have a choice. Actually they had the best prices also on REM/UMC like 17.95-18.50 for 50rd boxes, and for those I was paying an average of $12.95-13.95 before Covid, so it's not that bad.
Also after every order I put in Buds sent me a $5 off my next purchase a few days later. It makes shipping more tolerable, but most of my orders were $12 for shipping (up to 7 boxes). If you order 4 boxes it's $10 shipping or half that if they send you the $5 off code.
Also after every order I put in Buds sent me a $5 off my next purchase a few days later. It makes shipping more tolerable, but most of my orders were $12 for shipping (up to 7 boxes). If you order 4 boxes it's $10 shipping or half that if they send you the $5 off code.
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
I just got 1,000 rounds of 9mm for $310.00 to my door and that’s not bad there for these times. It was TSUSA. If you order a case they are the cheapest I’ve seen.
Modean
.223 Rem
Yep. I ordered a fair amount from Buds this spring. Solid prices, and you didn’t have to order a case to get a deal.
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
But shipping usually cost close to what another box costs and now you’re paying taxes too. I’ll bet it costs more in the long run than just saving and buying one case. Shipping at buds is $12-14 and federal 9mm at buds is $0.41/round and at TSUSA is $0.38/round so what am I missing here?
The Remington is a bit cheaper at buds but TSUSA has cheaper FMJ a options but if you have to have Remington 9mm I guess it might work out to be a bit cheaper.
Also remember TSUSA has a ammo membership that sounds like it would have saved you money in the long run as well. Too late now since we will need ammo background checks coming up 9/1.
Modean
.223 Rem
Shipping was a bit lower last spring.
Vapor
.308 Win
He literally has an account here haha
I was at a gunshop yesterday and an "expert" came in and was trying to tell us, that no longer could you buy a gun and ammo for it at the same time...supposedly Hochul said that.
I PROMPTLY PURCHASED SOME AMMO FOR ONE GUN I JUST PICKED UP, ticking off that guy!! He intimated that I would be sorry, and that the notice obviously did not arrive yet.
Hell, likely there will be no ammo NICS check set up before 2023 at the earliest, and ESPECIALLY BEFORE THE 2ND CIRCUIT LAYS OUT THE Bruen RULES..
Who are these experts? Hochul spies?
I PROMPTLY PURCHASED SOME AMMO FOR ONE GUN I JUST PICKED UP, ticking off that guy!! He intimated that I would be sorry, and that the notice obviously did not arrive yet.
Hell, likely there will be no ammo NICS check set up before 2023 at the earliest, and ESPECIALLY BEFORE THE 2ND CIRCUIT LAYS OUT THE Bruen RULES..
Who are these experts? Hochul spies?
Beerman
6.5 Creedmoor
We call groups of them “Hochul’s Yokels,” or “the local Hochul” if there’s only one present.
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
He’s just happy he doesn’t need a license to buy his one box of shotgun slugs for deer camp.
LibertyWins
9mm
Bought just over 4,000 rounds online over the past month to add to my hoard. If they want to play games and buying online goes away, I'll bring my business to PA.
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
I will do the same for ammo and when they ban gasoline engines and natural gas appliances I will do the same. NYS will lose a lot of tax money since I’m guessing I’m not the only one.
US RIFLE M1A
.45 acp
Excellent.
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
its been 9 yrs since the un-safe-act and no ammo database .. LOL ..
Don't rest on the idea that they won't create something that barely functions, just to be able to put a stop to online and out-of-State purchases.
The obvious goal of this totalitarian regime is complete disarmament. They are pushing very hard now, and we can only speculate as to the reason, but inevitably it will not be good for us Citizens.
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
well they have a less then a Month to get it done then ..
At some point all these fees and conditions and requirements being enforced on a Right have to stop.
I think politicians should have to pass extensive background checks and 24 hours of Social Studies courses before enacting any new Law. They should also be required to turn over all social media accounts, bank accounts, and financier information so We The People can make sure they aren't on the take.
They also aren't allowed to vote on more than three new bills in any given month.
NO ONE NEEDS FOUR NEW LAWS TO KILL A DEAHH!!!
Nevertheless my guess is some (most?) of the online sellers may stop shipping to NY until the law is struck down by the courts.
nyhunter
22lr
BTW, does any vendor still ship to NY? Is TSUSA still shipping? Buds stopped about a month ago.
I just counted mine and realized I made a mistake in my math and only have 2,500 9mm rounds. I 'd like to be in the 3k-4k range if I won't be able to order ammo in the next few years. I refuse to get ripped off by LGS. I 've now put every caliber in a spreadsheet to keep better track when I go to the range, or add to my stash.
I just counted mine and realized I made a mistake in my math and only have 2,500 9mm rounds. I 'd like to be in the 3k-4k range if I won't be able to order ammo in the next few years. I refuse to get ripped off by LGS. I 've now put every caliber in a spreadsheet to keep better track when I go to the range, or add to my stash.
You may have to find a FFL that will receive ammo for a reasonable handling fee, like a kitchen table FFL or a Bait & Tackle shop that sells ammo. This is something I was ready for for awhile now, plus evert time I walked into a big box store I would grab a box or two of ammo.
Seldom do I buy centerfire ammunition for myself; however, I did buy two buckets of .300blk from Gorilla Ammunition: they sent an e-mail to me requesting a FFL, which is fine we have one, still...
The Shop is taking a photocopy of the purchasers Drivers licenses, asking for their occupation, and writing on the Sales Receipt what was purchased... NOT fucking happy about it, a few rebuff it, but the State seemingly demand it.
The Shop is taking a photocopy of the purchasers Drivers licenses, asking for their occupation, and writing on the Sales Receipt what was purchased... NOT fucking happy about it, a few rebuff it, but the State seemingly demand it.
The Database and ability to run checks isn't operational yet, reading through the Law its mentioned that the SP would use the NICS (Federal system) however the Federal system specifically prohibits it from being used for ANYTHING besides the sale/transfer of Handgun, Long Gun, or "Other"... The State has their E-Justice computer system for Law Enforcement to read and review criminal records, but that has to be reviewed, it doesn't have "marked boxes" nor reflect sealed records, so the idea that the person is shown as a go or no-go doesn't seem possible, only the person reading the record and doing the check has to figure out if the applicant is a prohibited person or not, and somehow I have to think that screw ups will be rampant.
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
You’re FFL must be special then because everyone I have spoken with have been told nothing and heard nothing. I’m not saying he’s wrong, but I doubt anyone will say anything concrete these days that has any authority from NYS.
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
Last I knew they were still for the time being. Things are changing fast on the vendor end. Get it while you can. Also driving to another state is an option. Also remember any gun store specific purchase is being tracked by the credit card companies and anything suspicious is being reported to the authorities. What’s suspicious is anyones guess.
