Maybe if the police didn't knock on this guys door a 5:00AM things may have turned out differently? Just wondering. Anne Arundel police chief: Shooting was evidence that month-old 'red flag' law is needed
Another Red Flag Gun confiscation goes badly
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2WheelGnnr
6.5 Creedmoor
I get knocks all the time from amazon at 5 in the morning...I mean WHO approaches a home with that type of stuff at 5am!!!
GOD.... but again..it was an EMERGENCY warrant.......
what did you expect would happen...
GOD.... but again..it was an EMERGENCY warrant.......
what did you expect would happen...
spat
.700 Nitro Express
We're starting to get into some serious "minority report" shit here ladies and gentlemen.
Doc8404
.450/400 Nitro Ex
This is from 11/2018
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
Yeah, and the guy is still dead, and for what? That we will never the truth of.
Robin
Robin
And this is all we get?
"One of Willis’ nieces said another family member requested the protective order to temporarily remove his guns after an incident at the house Sunday."
"Willis was being served an emergency risk protective order following an incident at the house Sunday night. A niece said one of her aunts requested the protective order to temporarily remove his guns."
So what was so bad about that Sunday night to warrant (get it?
) the theft of his property and loss of his Constitutionally protected Rights?
"One of Willis’ nieces said another family member requested the protective order to temporarily remove his guns after an incident at the house Sunday."
"Willis was being served an emergency risk protective order following an incident at the house Sunday night. A niece said one of her aunts requested the protective order to temporarily remove his guns."
So what was so bad about that Sunday night to warrant (get it?
) the theft of his property and loss of his Constitutionally protected Rights?
Deplorable Me
.700 Nitro Express
Why secure the firearms and leave the threatening person loose? Jump in the car and run through a crowd? Why grab the person at home when there's the potential of maximum density of firearms? They're going to search the house and wreck in anyways. It's a recipe for legalized murder by the state and signed off by your disgruntled relatives.
Mental camouflage folks.
Mental camouflage folks.
@thewheels
.308 Win
Article is from last year and I'm pretty sure this incident was discussed in another thread here.
Deplorable Me
.700 Nitro Express
Dead horses make for good BBQ.
@thewheels
.308 Win
Deplorable Me
.700 Nitro Express
Jerky.
repete
.338 Win Mag
This will be happening more often and I won't be to surprised when it happens to me, I have some very vindictive in laws that are very liberal and feel that only police and military should own ANY firearms! Add to that I've corrupted their baby by introducing her to the world of firearms and self reliance and that proves that I'm a nut case not to be trusted. It's coming some day.
Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
I hope not
Ad for this story, its frustrating to read that the cops went there at 5am. Any gun owner is going to answer the door with gun in hand at 5am.. its fucking absurd. Shit like this and no knock warrants are recipes for disaster. Too many wannabe door kickers.
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Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
I'm waiting for the time when a government agent starts reading some gun forums and see someone post something up in anger and decides to go after them to confiscate their guns and wait for a judge to sort it out. Then they'll print out your comments of what you say online as evidence.
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Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
Yep.
Robin
Robin
“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”
― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956
― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956
Why? Does this gun forum give up my info??
spat
.700 Nitro Express
If you don't think the government can get it whether the operators want to cooperate or not, you don't understand how things work.
It's possible to participate anonymously, but I bet only a handful of the people here know how, and none go through the hassle to set that up.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
No but they can trace your IP address to your home.
ECU Pirates
.308 Win
Let me guess no body cameras or they were off? Old story or not this is a taste of things to come. The question is when some cops get killed because of these laws will they back off or ramp up for confiscations? If I was a cop no way I would be a part of these raids. You want to disarm an alleged crazy man? Have at it congressman...
I would like to see the camera footage of this as well.
spat
.700 Nitro Express
I could get the IP address for almost anyone on here without much difficulty, using nothing that isn't available to everyone with internet access at home.
From there it wouldn't be hard to narrow you down to a city. The cops can easily request all your information from your ISP in many cases they won't even need a warrant, just a "please".
They can even redirect all your internet traffic to one of their intercept servers to look through it, without your ISP even knowing.
That's not conspiracy stuff, that's CALEA (link below). Your ISP is required by law to provide LE with intercept capabilities and they are prohibited from knowing the details even of who they are tapping.
Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act - Wikipedia
Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Not that I'm aware of, but what if they got a warrant and gave it to the owners of the forum? I guarantee they're already watching this forum and cataloguing certain information.
Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
The problem is people always hold out for a hope that it won't be them or that it will stop. People need to realize sooner than later that it is not the case.
Coming to a house near you!
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
Two things I’d love to know what the incident was. A simple argument or a bad meal. Did he threaten her or point a gun at her?
Also Maryland holds about 1/50th of the population and of the are doing 1,300-1,400 gun confiscations that would lead to about 75,000 nation wide on a yearly basis.
Sounds like a great way to legally confiscate guns from us pretty quickly.
Scary times honestly.
Also Maryland holds about 1/50th of the population and of the are doing 1,300-1,400 gun confiscations that would lead to about 75,000 nation wide on a yearly basis.
Sounds like a great way to legally confiscate guns from us pretty quickly.
Scary times honestly.