Bushmaster
.308 Win
Can someone point me in a direction to look up a 1800 year rifle, all I know at moment is words (SWISS STEIGER)??? Bolt action. Pics later I hope.
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Antique rifle question
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fnfalguy
.308 Win
Some starting ground likely. Vetterli Series
Bushmaster
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I think this rifle I can sell with no FFL needed correct? 1899 and under? @Bullet Guy
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Bushmaster
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Hmmmm, I'm seeing very low production no#'s of this rifle, only few 100 made? but also low value of it??? (strange) is that because maybe there is no type of ammo produced for it anymore?
Bushmaster
.308 Win
Ok the serial no# says it was built in 1892. W.V. Steiger Thun. I think it holds 12 rounds. Anyone know what ammo it uses? I wanna shoot it.
GOYABEAN
.950 JDJ
Definitely Black Powder Rifles of the World
GOYABEAN
.950 JDJ
Bushmaster
.308 Win
32532 is the serial. So it is a rim fire for sure?
Bushmaster
.308 Win
Here is the serial data base look up. 32532 Serial Number Database Search
Bushmaster
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Yes the bolt is indeed rim fire. So there is no ammo I can buy for this correct? Never heard of black powder rim fire before, then again IDK jack chit about old guns. Everything on it works to, looks like these flap things eject shells out the top straight up. Still has the cleaning rod in it. It screws in.
GOYABEAN
.950 JDJ
There should be some place to purchase that ammo might have to pay top dollar for it
search the forum's
Bushmaster
.308 Win
There should be some place to purchase that ammo might have to pay top dollar for it
IDK WTF ammo it uses LOL.... I see things that say 10mm, and things that say 41 cal.... And one other says.. 7.5x53.5 GP90 Swiss Vetterli Ammo - The Firing Line Forums
Well @togmaster correct, just wall hanger... would be nice to shoot it first though grrr... Thanks people.
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Bushmaster
.308 Win
Just for future info, here it is...... Translated from German to English.
Bushmaster
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Atticus
.177 BB
The bitterly was originally, a rimfire, there were gunsmith that did a centerfires conversion. Buffalo arms, used to carry at least 41 swiss centerfires brass, for converted rifles. Any rimfire ammo you find, will be collector's stuff, and well over 100 years old, and probably would not fire anyway
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
Looks like a good solid design. Sure seems like someone would be making ammo for it. Try s lot of different search combinations, you never know. Cool old gun, I'd shoot it!
Robin
Robin
Bushmaster
.308 Win
ya its solid I wanted to shoot it. Seen a few different ones sold and for sale, not worth much. I see why they have a cleaning rod now LOL, being black powder. Vetterli Swiss - W.V. Steiger Thun - 1869 - Sn 33654
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
There are companies that reload black powder shells, find a few of them and ask if they know of anyone loading that cartridge, seems they would know something like that.
Robin
Robin
SHIT
Ammo for that ?
I can't even find Black Powder Webley .455
Ammo for that ?
I can't even find Black Powder Webley .455
Bushmaster
.308 Win
Not worth it to me. The rifle is at my house, but it belongs to a friend who asked if I wanted to buy it or sell it. I told him it's not worth much after looking in to it maybe $100.00 and it would better to keep it as a wall hanger.
GOYABEAN
.950 JDJ
I'm going to ask someone I know maybe he can help or even buy it !
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
Damn, I would love to shoot that beautiful old relic.
Robin
Robin
Bushmaster
.308 Win
Robin if I owned it I would just give it to ya free, I have no interest in old relic black powder. I gave one black powder to Gunner57 I didn't want.
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
I take in orphan's, I'm big that way!
Robin
Robin
Bushmaster
.308 Win
I take in orphan's, I'm big that way!
Robin
LOL, here's the one with flask I gave Gunner.
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
Some orphans are better left yo fend for themselves. Hey!, that doesn't make me a bad person!
Robin
Robin
As has been noted it's a 41 Swiss rimfire. Ammo does not exist BUT it can easily be converted to center fire, cases made from 8mm Lebel and dies are made by Lee. Most will slug ..427-.434 and shoot well with heavy .431 lead bullets. I have mine set up with an EER 3-9 old (good) Burris. Shoots well and kills things too. About the same power as an 8" 44 Magnum revolver.
320 gr bullet, 1250 fps, 50 yards
My rifle:
2016 Antelope 55 paces, one shot DOA.
BTW a 41 with a good bore is an easy $300-500 rifle.
320 gr bullet, 1250 fps, 50 yards
My rifle:
2016 Antelope 55 paces, one shot DOA.
BTW a 41 with a good bore is an easy $300-500 rifle.
As has been noted it's a 41 Swiss rimfire. Ammo does not exist BUT it can easily be converted to center fire, cases made from 8mm Lebel and dies are made by Lee. Most will slug ..427-.434 and shoot well with heavy .431 lead bullets. I have mine set up with an EER 3-9 old (good) Burris. Shoots well and kills things too. About the same power as an 8" 44 Magnum revolver.
320 gr bullet, 1250 fps, 50 yards
My rifle:
2016 Antelope 55 paces, one shot DOA.
BTW a 41 with a good bore is an easy $300-500 rifle.
NICE !
Black Powder ?
I use 4227. Some folks use black. Just don't hot rod it !
Good info here: SwissRifles
and here: https://www.milsurps.com/forumdisplay.php?f=141
Good info here: SwissRifles
and here: https://www.milsurps.com/forumdisplay.php?f=141