AR Pistol on Permit

[Phauxtoe]

I thought AR PISTOLS were now considered “Assualt weapons” and were banned because a pistol can’t have mag well NOT in the pistol grip?

Am I missing something
A pistol with s brace would be illegal too. Right?
(We need a handicapped shooter yo sue FUAC FUNYS

 

[Will556]

I thought AR PISTOLS were now considered “Assualt weapons” and were banned because a pistol can’t have mag well NOT in the pistol grip?

Am I missing something
A pistol with s brace would be illegal too. Right?
(We need a handicapped shooter yo sue FUAC FUNYS

Nope, it’s not illegal. Even civilians in NY can have them as long as the magazine is fixed.

 

[Sixbennetts]

Nope, it’s not illegal. Even civilians in NY can have them as long as the magazine is fixed.

Yup, that's exactly what I built.

A fixed mag pistol from an, "other", lower from my LGS, which I added to my pistol permit. I load it with an MA Loader from the side, and shoot it with a Tailhook brace because I'm a disabled vet with a bad left wing.

I'm not crazy about the fixed mag, but I love it compared to the Thordson Monstrosity stock, (which I would have trouble holding anyway).

 

[Uzi]

I thought AR PISTOLS were now considered “Assualt weapons” and were banned because a pistol can’t have mag well NOT in the pistol grip?

Am I missing something
A pistol with s brace would be illegal too. Right?
(We need a handicapped shooter yo sue FUAC FUNYS

No, you're correct.

The way around it is like already stated, fixing the magazine, or creating a bolt action / non semi automatic. Pistol braces are federally legal, they're just an accessory, not considered a stock. You don't need to be disabled or handicapped to use one. You can put a pistol buffer tube on a handgun and toss on a stabilizing brace and it is also still legal.

 

[Joe Blow]

Sorry Joe blow but that is the dumbest thing I've herd related to this topic in a long time. A it's perfectly legal to have a blank lower on your permit so if you have an ffl telling you that they can't transfer a lower find a new one. Second you can buy a blank lower as an "other" and hang on to it. It is in your possssion and you can then do an amendment to add it to permit as handgun. Once on your permit you can legally build a pistol.....with your logic if I buy a by configured AR and then alter it to non legal I can claim well I bought it from an FFL. It is the owners responsibility to follow laws.

You ordered a lower online, it was received by your FFL, and transferred to you as an "other"?
The receiving FFL would have logged it in their A+D book as a receiver (just as it came from the sender). That FFL, upon disposition, should have checked "other" in box 16 of the 4473 when it was transferred to you and written "receiver" in box 27 of that form. Logged in to their A+D book as a receiver, it is not an "other" upon disposition unless your FFL is doing some creative paperwork.
How does one add an “other” to their pistol permit?
Permitting authorities here are great to work with, but they do have their limits...

 

[Joe Blow]

And if uncle bob drops dead and there is an illegal handgun the police hold it until a family member adds it to permit. It doesn't go to an FFL.

If the handgun is given to an FFL, and that FFL works with the permitting authority, it is MUCH more efficient than surrendering the handgun to the police. Police in general have no clue as to the nuances of pistol permitting and it will in the end get turned over to the permitting authority. Sure, the police can run the handgun through the NCIC, but they don't do background checks and aren't going to issue receipts for a person to add said handgun to their permit. The head of the permitting authority can do it all...

 

[Edwardteach72]

OK sooo not to kinda necro this thread.. but trying to figure this all out

am i reading this correctly... if i was to buy say a Aero Precision Stripped Lower marked Pistol and that was shipped to my local FFL i could then get my paperwork and add it to my Pistol Permit at the PP office go back and pick up the lower and then build myself a NY legal AR pistol?

 

[whauburger]

OK sooo not to kinda necro this thread.. but trying to figure this all out

am i reading this correctly... if i was to buy say a Aero Precision Stripped Lower marked Pistol and that was shipped to my local FFL i could then get my paperwork and add it to my Pistol Permit at the PP office go back and pick up the lower and then build myself a NY legal AR pistol?

Perty much.......I had the lower transferred to me as an "other", I took possession of the lower right away from FFL. I later went to permit office and added it and after it was on my permit I built a legal pistol.

 

[Sixbennetts]

Doesn't need to be marked pistol, as long as it's sold to you as other, by a LGS willing to do it, and is also willing to help you put it on your pistol permit. (I chose to buy a pistol marked lower because I wanted it, not because I needed it. At my local gun club, people are unfamiliar with the law, and usually shut up when I show them it's marked pistol, and it's on my permit as such.)

Also, ask the LGS if anybody else in your county has done this, and how the permit clerk responded to it.