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[Podmonkey]

I will eventually be putting a scope on my AR, once I have access to a range with more than 25 yard lanes.
I'm looking for a low power varible of reasonable weight for a general purpose/duty rifle. Currently it seems there are numerous 1-6 scopes out there and the two currently at the top of the list are:
Leupold VX6

Trijicon Accupoint 1-6

Both are in the same neighborhood price wise and optical quality. The Leupy is a bit cheaper and lighter, with the Trijicon I like the battery free illumination and access to triangle post reticle, good KISS scope.
What do y'all think though? What else might y'all suggest in that general class?

 

[Exonautic]

I was actually looking at the trijicon. Couldnt justify the price for my ar but i want the 4-12 for my bolt gun.

 

[Podmonkey]

Not cheap no but for the quality of the glass and overall I think around $1100 is pretty reasonable for a 1-6.

 

[Frankly]

I'd pick based on weight and reticle.

 

[Podmonkey]

I'd pick based on weight and reticle.

What do you think about the triangle post reticle? I like how simple and clear most of the field of view is.

 

[Frankly]

I haven't used one but I like the marketing explanation. All of those $1000 1-6 AR 3-gun scopes have strong backers... Jerry Miculek designed the reticle for the Vortex, Taran Butler helped with the Trijicon, there are a lot of great shooters with Leupolds.... You probably can't go wrong and you probably need to own one to shoot it enough to get accustomed to it.

Of course if you're just getting into it then the $300 Vortex Strike Eagle is a lot of scope for the money and won't break the bank. Aero Precision makes a nice ultralight cantilevered mount that is half the price of the Warne. You want a throw lever too, still under $500 good to go.

Personally I just got a blow out sale cheap Leupold 1.5-4x20 scope that is more of a hunting scope than a 3-gun scope but for the short ranges and limited use I can give it, I think it will be perfect. One of the big advantages of most Leupolds is that they are lighter but still high quality, this scope only weighs 11 oz.

 

[Podmonkey]

I haven't used one but I like the marketing explanation. All of those $1000 1-6 AR 3-gun scopes have strong backers... Jerry Miculek designed the reticle for the Vortex, Taran Butler helped with the Trijicon, there are a lot of great shooters with Leupolds.... You probably can't go wrong and you probably need to own one to shoot it enough to get accustomed to it.

That Vortex Razor 1-6 is really, really nice but it's freaking heavy! 28 oz! For the equivalent weight and price I'd proly rather have the new Trijicon 1-8×28. I wanna keep the weight below 20 oz and the Accupoint is borderline.

 

[Frankly]

That Vortex Razor 1-6 is really, really nice but it's freaking heavy! 28 oz! For the equivalent weight and price I'd proly rather have the new Trijicon 1-8×28. I wanna keep the weight below 20 oz and the Accupoint is borderline.

Yeah not that I have an ultralite rifle but the barrel and scope are the obvious places to save a lot of weight, say compared to a $300 Titanium compensator.

 

[freddy]

Is a VCOG too much?

 

[Podmonkey]

Is a VCOG too much?

Yeth. Also not really anything over the other two featurewise. I think what they are charging for in the VCOG is ACOG level toughness. Reportedly. I would put where the Vortex Razor 1-6 or the Trijicon Accupower 1-8 at the absolute ragged edge of what I'm willing to spend. Both are also heavier than I'd like.

 

[freddy]

Yeth. Also not really anything over the other two featurewise. I think what they are charging for in the VCOG is ACOG level toughness. Reportedly. I would put where the Vortex Razor 1-6 or the Trijicon Accupower 1-8 at the absolute ragged edge of what I'm willing to spend. Both are also heavier than I'd like.

Didn't check on the scopes you mentioned - perhaps first vs second focal plane as well?

 

[Podmonkey]

Didn't check on the scopes you mentioned - perhaps first vs second focal plane as well?

I do belive that the VCOG is a first focal plane scope, so there is that. Focal plane is kinda irrelevant to me the way I intend to use the rifle.

 

[freddy]

I do belive that the VCOG is a first focal plane scope, so there is that. Focal plane is kinda irrelevant to me the way I intend to use the rifle.

Putting offset irons on?

 

[Uninformed and Compliant]

Also consider PA has some nice ACSS setups. Compare the width of the horizontal against the target's shoulders to judge the range. When they match, squeeze the trigger and you'll hit him in the throat.

Comes in at around 16oz, before mount.

Category: ACSS-Optics

 

[Podmonkey]

Problem with Bdc reticles is I will be using varying loads from 55 to 77 gr.
@freddy I don't think I will be using offset irons, no. I think it somewhat defeats the purpose of a low power optic. I intend to run flip ups with the scope in a QD mount. I have not ruled out a fixed optic such as an ACOG with offeset irons or even a rds. Such a setup may even be better for a pure duty role. However being my only AR and in fact my only modern rifle at all, it will see more use in a recreational role. The Leupold D-evo is an interesting option but is expensive and, once paired with a red dot, heavy. Especially since the ded dot currently have weighs a hefty 10oz. The D-evo is also not illuminated and is supposed to have a finicky eyebox.

 

[Eddie Gunks]

What do you think about the triangle post reticle? I like how simple and clear most of the field of view is.

Good for shooting people. Not so good for precision work.

 

[Podmonkey]

Good for shooting people. Not so good for precision work.

Well my marksmanship is not so great for precision either. Past 100 yards I just would want to be able to get hits. Closer in I imagine I could zero off the tip of the triange to gain precision. It's not supposed to be a sub moa rifle anyway, it's a hammer forged, chrome lined barrel.

 

[zzrguy]

I spent 600 building the rifle Im not spend that on the scope. Im looking at the Vortex's new 1x8 Strike Eagle Its list is close to 600 but I know I can get it a lot cheaper then that I do like the reticle alot.

 

[Marine Cpl]

What do you think about the triangle post reticle? I like how simple and clear most of the field of view is.

I used to have a triangle post reticle on a Meprolight M21 that I sold off on a bullpup SKS. What I liked about it is that the point of the triangle at the top was very precise compared to a dot as you said.

 

[Podmonkey]

Well this thread may have been resurrected by a bot, which seems to have been banished already, But since I'm still considering scopes...........
Leupold VX6 is out, I think the Trijicon accupoint outclasses it for a similar price.
Its just under my weight limit of 20oz. I would proly go for the mildot reticle.
The Trijicon is currently my lead choice however I am considering two new options:
The new Zeiss 1-6


Conquest V6 - the perfect combination of precision and reliability | ZEISS International
Its s second focal plane scope that weighs around 17oz and has outstanding optical clarity and is supposedly daylight bright.
Cost is at my upper limit of around 1.5k
This scope basically has everything I'm looking for.
The second option:
Eotech Vudu


Vudu 1-6x Precision Rifle Scope | EOTech
This is a first focal plane scope with a reticle that scales very well in an interesting fashion, I really like it. It weighs just over my limit of 20oz and runs about 1.1k. It apparently has mediocre illumination and the deal breaker of not having either locking or capped turrets.

So I guess it comes down to if I want to spend the few hundred extra bucks on the Zeiss over the Trijicon. The reason I'm willing to spend in this range is for tge extra optical clarity, the increased FOV combined with the generous eyebox, something the the cheaper scopes can't quite match.

 

[Cureforcancer]

@Podmonkey
Can’t afford a car or ammo but gtg with a 1k scope.
Priorities

 

[Podmonkey]

@Podmonkey
Can’t afford a car or ammo but gtg with a 1k scope.
Priorities

I can buy ammo, I buy lots of ammo. Fuck a car anyway, I only need one for 3 days a month.
I entered that NRA truck giveaway, maybe I'll get lucky.

 

[Marine Cpl]

I'm no robot sir!

 

[Cureforcancer]

I can buy ammo, I buy lots of ammo. Fuck a car anyway, I only need one for 3 days a month.
I entered that NRA truck giveaway, maybe I'll get lucky.

Only NRA CEO’S win those contest.

The scopes you mention are especially the conquest. I was thinking about selling my car to have one.

 

[Podmonkey]

I'm no robot sir!

Not you, some bot came in shilling for some website, bumped a bunch of threads. The posts seem to have been deleted.

 

[Marine Cpl]

Not you, some bot came in shilling for some website, bumped a bunch of threads. The posts seem to have been deleted.

I know. I joke. His post got deleted. It was for a handguard or something right?

 

[Exonautic]

I know. I joke. His post got deleted. It was for a handguard or something right?

handguard, receiver sets, he even posted about an ar15 receiver set on the ar10 deals post.

 

[Marine Cpl]

At least the bot got us back on track with actual gun threads. Thank you bot! Now Pod is back to searching for a scope to blow his down payment he was saving for a car.

 

[Podmonkey]

At least the bot got us back on track with actual gun threads. Thank you bot! Now Pod is back to searching for a scope to blow his down payment he was saving for a car.

Fuck it, I'll just keep renting that Camaro.