Disagree.
AR Trigger Job
- Thread starter kev74
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Exonautic
.308 Win
i sold my 2 stage geissele cause i didn't like the fact that it was 2 stage. it's not for everyone.
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
Eddie Gunks
.338 Win Mag
Fixed it for you.....
Hiperfire is over engineered imho. For the $$ ill stick with geisselle.
For 25 bucks it awesome I will stone the part over the winter and see how it goes. I've shot timenys but for the price it worth a try.
The Hiperfire EDT triggers are pretty much the same arrangement as the milspec triggers just with improved engagement surfaces and a few reliability improvements. I find them to be excellent triggers, especially for the $90 cost.
Eddie Gunks
.338 Win Mag
The best hiperfire triggrs are the 24 series.
A revolutionary idea that gives you one of the best triggers available without sacrificing hammer spring weight.
I have been using them from about their inception. I shot more than 20,000 rounds with zero malfunctions.
The only geisselle in their league is their high speed national match........the rest don't even compare. (The SSA-E is not worth the money even at black friday prices. I ran one. I sold it ). I have a HSNM that i just put in a gun. I will run it for a season and see how i like it.
Thats more a target trigger though innit? Seems like the 24 would be a little out of place on rifle you put together for me. Guess it showed up at my FFL yesterday.
Eddie Gunks
.338 Win Mag
All comes down to how discriminating you are about your triggers. I do not consider them to be “target”’triggers.
If you want the best groups possible on that build.....i would run a 24-3G.
I run a 24 series in most of my regularly used ARs. If i plan to shoot seriously i use what i consider the best trigger i can get. . I use them for hunting and 3 gun. I use them as a sd trigger. I would use then “on duty”, if i was in that position.
For “toys” and play guns (9mm ar. Selectfire. Ar pistols etc i use regular milspec with the 9mm getting the EDT, only cause I do shoot 9mm in some competitions so a better trigger is nice. If i ever got real serious i may drop in a 24 series. )
To much complexity in those 24 triggers for me in a defensive gun. Plus I'd want more than a 3lb trigger pull in a defensive gun too. I wanna keep the practical guns simple and idiot proof. When I get around to the SPR build I'd take a 24 into consideration.
Eddie Gunks
.338 Win Mag
You got to use whatever that you’re comfortable with using. ( FWIW, you can add heavier springs to the 24 series trigger systems so they are more than 3 pounds. They come with 3 different spring sets. )
I have over 20,000 rounds on a Timney trigger in my scar 16. ( I would’ve love the geisslle trigger. But I just couldn’t justify the added cost at that time. )I have over 20,000 rounds on the hiperfire trigger I mentioned above.
I have hardly ever used mill spec triggers for any kind of high volume shooting.
So with over 40,000 rounds I’ve never had a problem with either one of those aftermarket trigger systems.
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I like those Hiperfire 24s, but just looking at all those springs and parts it just appears as if a popped primer or a pebble or grit gets in there and it'd jam up the works. I like that the EDT provides extra clearance at the back to allow for such stuff.
Eddie Gunks
.338 Win Mag
Ha ha Ha. Again buy what you like.
I don’t tend to entertain hypotheticals that may never happen, but if we’re going to play that game:
what about broken trigger pins? Broken triggers springs? Broken trigger shoes? Broken disconnectors? Bad firing pins? bad extractor? Bad ejectors?‘s bad gas tube? Bad gas block? Bad buffers? Bad primers? Squib loads? Cases stuck in the chamber because the head ripped off? Broken hammer pins? Broken hammer? Buffer retaining spring and buffer detent coming out jamming up the bolt carrier group? Broken bolt at the Cam pin hole? Bad gas rings? Bad gas key? Broken magazine catch? Broken bolt catch?
And the number 1 potential problem: A Loose connection between the gun in the ground?
All the above mentioned problems could possibly happen.
How do we prepare for any of those potential hypotheticals that would probably never happen?
It has been fun talking hypotheticals with you.
Sincerely, Chicken Little.
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Bill Geissele was a Highpower shooter. I shot matches where his prototype trigger was being tested. We had a chance to dryfire it and look it over. The guy who was testing it was a friend of mine from NJ. At the time the trigger that everyone wanted was Milazzo-Krieger. For a mysterious reason Charley Milazzo stopped selling them to the public, never told why and didn't even answer phone calls. Rumor has it, he made a deal with Army Marksmanship Unit to sell to them exclusively. No one knows for sure. It is still a great trigger, but Geissele improved on adjustability and made few other changes to avoid patent infringement. I bought 2 of Geissele triggers from the first batch, when they went into production in 2004-2005. Serial numbers on mine are 37, 39. I still use them and never found anything better. They are adjusted just the way I want them, that's the key. None of them pure drop in triggers. Each trigger has a little different feel to it. Service rifle competition rules dictate 4-1/2 lbs.
Fast forward the original Milazzo-Krieger came back as Wisconsin Trigger Company (or some such). Some people love them, others prefer Geissele. In 12 years of using Geissele, I became intimately familiar with that trigger and use every bit of its adjustability to my advantage. Bill Geissele's company grew, he makes all kinds of gear now. He became a big shot, but he always says hello and talks to me, when I see him at Camp Perry.
BTW, Bill says Bin Laden was shot with a rifle baring one of his triggers.
Fast forward the original Milazzo-Krieger came back as Wisconsin Trigger Company (or some such). Some people love them, others prefer Geissele. In 12 years of using Geissele, I became intimately familiar with that trigger and use every bit of its adjustability to my advantage. Bill Geissele's company grew, he makes all kinds of gear now. He became a big shot, but he always says hello and talks to me, when I see him at Camp Perry.
BTW, Bill says Bin Laden was shot with a rifle baring one of his triggers.