Assembly Bill A8443 - Going after out of state Ammunition sales

[Dr. Evil]

If you think that the NYSP does not monitor this sight then I have abridge to sell you.

Oh, they do. Ask me how I know...

 

[Cooolone]

Can't legislate an extension of New York's legal domain ... No enforcement and no legal powers outside its borders! End of story! Just another "Gee" I did something, even though it's actually nothing, legislator!!! Ice in Winter!!!

 

[Cooolone]

For the first time in my life I am going to respond to the post re: prosecuting New Yorkers for buying ammo out of state; every time I read comments that state FUCH regarding our laws and then go on to say they will buy ammo in Pa. or some other state, or reloaders saying they have X amount of rounds saved up and tell the gov. to f-off, what do you expect. If you think that the NYSP does not monitor this sight then I have abridge to sell you. Gun owners are their own worst enemy.

Well, that's all good! But monitoring posting a completely LEGAL activity means what?

Your hysteria is misplaced. I can buy whatever I want, wherever I want, and do whatever I want, with and in all legal purposes and intent!

End of story...

Why are firearm owners our own worst enemy talking about legal activity? Please explain? Because I think it's wonderful members express themselves and their ideas and opinions, all speech protected (1A), and their experiences and activities also protected (2A)... I'd be hard pressed to remember any conversation here even lending into anything even remotely considered illegal.

Have a great day!

 

[FrankenCub]

For the first time in my life I am going to respond to the post re: prosecuting New Yorkers for buying ammo out of state; every time I read comments that state FUCH regarding our laws and then go on to say they will buy ammo in Pa. or some other state, or reloaders saying they have X amount of rounds saved up and tell the gov. to f-off, what do you expect. If you think that the NYSP does not monitor this sight then I have abridge to sell you. Gun owners are their own worst enemy.

You're pretty naive if you think that idea came from our overloards watching forums. They know damn well what's going on.

 

[FrankenCub]

Well Litegeous Letitia pretty much shut down inter net ammo sales with just a threat, did the same with 80% receivers, no law, not even a regulation, just the threat and our cowardly brothers in Arm's folded there money grubbing tents and said, no stuff for you!
Robin

Firearm parts as well, places i used to buy from will no longer sell to NYers. She'll do it again with this. She has endless tax payer money to fund her frivolous law suit threats, whereas mom & pop shops and other retailers can't afford the expense.

 

[pshift]

There are plenty of places in PA to buy from. Any NYS law is unenforceable, unless they stop cars at the border entering NYS doing random searches doe stuff in your trunk. Oh wait, that is illegal too.....

As long as they don't ask for ID, PA sellers are in the clear,,

"KNOWINGLY SELL AMMUNITION TO A RESIDENT OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK"

 

[Robin]

For the first time in my life I am going to respond to the post re: prosecuting New Yorkers for buying ammo out of state; every time I read comments that state FUCH regarding our laws and then go on to say they will buy ammo in Pa. or some other state, or reloaders saying they have X amount of rounds saved up and tell the gov. to f-off, what do you expect. If you think that the NYSP does not monitor this sight then I have abridge to sell you. Gun owners are their own worst enemy.

So its all our fault for living by our God given rights and expressing just that. WTF!
Robin

 

[thughes]

For the first time in my life I am going to respond to the post re: prosecuting New Yorkers for buying ammo out of state; every time I read comments that state FUCH regarding our laws and then go on to say they will buy ammo in Pa. or some other state, or reloaders saying they have X amount of rounds saved up and tell the gov. to f-off, what do you expect. If you think that the NYSP does not monitor this sight then I have abridge to sell you. Gun owners are their own worst enemy.

Well I certainly hope so, otherwise they won't see this: FUCK YOU NYSP!

 

[Cooolone]

Yeah...



Fuck em' all!!!

Sit on this and rotate MF'ers!

Lmao!

 

[Willyone]

Yeah...

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Fuck em' all!!!

Sit on this and rotate MF'ers!

Lmao!

And when you reach my elbow lemme know

 

[Depick]

This is definitely the best use of resources NYS doesn’t have.

 

[Saltwater60]

Legally, you're probably mostly correct. But, I think the same logic might apply to online sales, and they have successfully scared all the retailers away from that. So, whether or not it can be enforced, it can still have a very real impact.

There’s a huge difference between buying something in NYS and having it shipped to your house in NYS than buying it in another state when you could use it or store it in that state.

 

[ManualF150]

The whole ammo background check is useless. Especially folks that know how to reload such as many of us.

What's even better is one can simply make their own ammo without the use of a press or really any expensive tooling.

It took me ~20 minutes to make up 10 perfectly good 9mm luger rounds using a mini scale, a case gauge, and a wooden dowel to prime the cartridges. I then tested them out and they all fired just like what would come from my RCBS or factory ammo.

Do they not realize that someone like a felon can do this in their apartment kitchen?

 

[kev74]

The whole ammo background check is useless. Especially folks that know how to reload such as many of us.

What's even better is one can simply make their own ammo without the use of a press or really any expensive tooling.

It took me ~20 minutes to make up 10 perfectly good 9mm luger rounds using a mini scale, a case gauge, and a wooden dowel to prime the cartridges. I then tested them out and they all fired just like what would come from my RCBS or factory ammo.

Do they not realize that someone like a felon can do this in their apartment kitchen?

It's even more useless when you realize most criminals steal their guns and the ammo to go with it, or just buy stolen guns and ammo.

 

[Carlos Hathcock]

For the first time in my life I am going to respond to the post re: prosecuting New Yorkers for buying ammo out of state; every time I read comments that state FUCH regarding our laws and then go on to say they will buy ammo in Pa. or some other state, or reloaders saying they have X amount of rounds saved up and tell the gov. to f-off, what do you expect. If you think that the NYSP does not monitor this sight then I have abridge to sell you. Gun owners are their own worst enemy.

If anyone thinks that the shitbags in Albany relied on this site to alert them to circumventing their bullshit legislation, you live in a dream world. They're assholes, but they're not stupid assholes. They have plenty of taxpayer money to spend to look 8 moves ahead. You can be certain there's reams of other legislation just waiting to be shoved up our asses.

 

[REF]

For the first time in my life I am going to respond to the post re: prosecuting New Yorkers for buying ammo out of state; every time I read comments that state FUCH regarding our laws and then go on to say they will buy ammo in Pa. or some other state, or reloaders saying they have X amount of rounds saved up and tell the gov. to f-off, what do you expect. If you think that the NYSP does not monitor this sight then I have abridge to sell you. Gun owners are their own worst enemy.

Do you think for one second that the government, State Police, etc. didn’t know people were going to go out of state to circumvent this law and just found out from this forum? You’re delusional

 

[Acer-m14]

It's even more useless when you realize most criminals steal their guns and the ammo to go with it, or just buy stolen guns and ammo.

 

[Acer-m14]

Do you think for one second that the government, State Police, etc. didn’t know people were going to go out of state to circumvent this law and just found out from this forum? You’re delusional

i have seen a NYSP officer go to PA and buy Fire Works and brought them back to NY ..

 

[Saltwater60]

There are plenty of places in PA to buy from. Any NYS law is unenforceable, unless they stop cars at the border entering NYS doing random searches doe stuff in your trunk. Oh wait, that is illegal too.....

There’s no law that says we can’t buy it and return with it. They are simply trying to scare people into not selling it to us.

 

[45acpskng]

Fuck him, the NYSP, and NY! I'll keep buying what I want, when I want!

 

[Acer-m14]

This is a PSA to ALL Gun Stores out side of NYS ..

Don't Ask . Don't Tell ..

Just Sell ..

and Fk-u states with FOID Cards ..

 

[MothMan]

There are plenty of places in PA to buy from. Any NYS law is unenforceable, unless they stop cars at the border entering NYS doing random searches doe stuff in your trunk. Oh wait, that is illegal too.....

Oh don’t cha know Leticia’s gonna make all gun stores in the country check the ID of every customer to see if they might be from NY!!

 

[Acer-m14]

Oh don’t cha know Leticia’s gonna make all gun stores in the country check the ID of every customer to see if they might be from NY!!

is there any law saying we the people have to have a ID card ??

if there is no law to have one ..

then there can be no law to show ID ..

i need to see your Voting ID card .

 

[OwnTheRide]

There’s a huge difference between buying something in NYS and having it shipped to your house in NYS than buying it in another state when you could use it or store it in that state.

No doubt. But don't underestimate how gun-shy places can be about things like this.

Example: "contiguous states' from the 1968 GCA, which allowed FFLs to sell long guns to residents of contiguous states. This was amended in 1986 to remove the "contiguous" requirement - any state will do. Almost 40 years later, you will find plenty of people - and FFLs! - that think it is still in place. I bet I see someone mention the "contiguous state" requirement at least once a month on gun forums.

 

[Bob]

I'm thinking more and more that Marvin Heemeyer was on to something.

 

[libertysnake]

What about if I ever gas up in NJ or PA?

#1 rule of driving: never stop in NJ.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

Tons of people have friends out of state. So screw Albany and the horse they rode in on.

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You forgot family. Lots of friends and family out of state. Ya know like the countless new Yorkers they've driven out that have had to leave their homes to move to free states.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

This is a PSA to ALL Gun Stores out side of NYS ..

Don't Ask . Don't Tell ..

Just Sell ..

and Fk-u states with FOID Cards ..

That's the thing.

They don't.


Literally walk into a store, get what you want and pay how you choose. Free America is a beautiful place

 

[Deplorable Me]

You forgot family. Lots of friends and family out of state. Ya know like the countless new Yorkers they've driven out that have had to leave their homes to move to free states.

At the rate we're going 90% of the forum members will be from out of state by next June and making money re-selling ammo to us.

 

[pshift]

Oh don’t cha know Leticia’s gonna make all gun stores in the country check the ID of every customer to see if they might be from NY!!

Just go to any firearms store in PA (not near the border) and look at their reaction when you show them your NYS ID (if they even ask for it). They raise their eyebrows and give the 'silent nod' to freedom when purchasing ammo.