ATF agent taking photos of FFL's A&D book

[Edwardteach72]

They say they have about 20 min of her taking photos of every page with all customer info in their A&D book with her cellphone

Here is the original FFL post

Instagram

www.instagram.com

 

[dsdmmat]

This one should get fired for violating PII rules.

 

[Edwardteach72]

So possible explanation

FFL still using paper books.. ATF agent is converting them to digital pdf files

 

[lrick]

So possible explanation

FFL still using paper books.. ATF agent is converting them to digital pdf files

Even still, what's the mechanism to ensure they get deleted from her phone within 60 days (I think that's right)?

Therein is part of the problem with laws...they depend upon a bureaucracy to enforce with poor oversight.


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[C3D]

That’s a joke. Most of the larger gun retailers — and all of the wholesalers — have electronic A&D records that ATF has direct access to.

 

[Rocpo]

Get a lawyer and subpoena her personal cell phone.

 

[repete]

Get a lawyer and subpoena her personal cell phone.

Don't need to, just FOIA it.

 

[Rocpo]

For her personal phone it wouldn't fall under FOIA

 

[Dr. Evil]

They say they have about 20 min of her taking photos of every page with all customer info in their A&D book with her cellphone

Here is the original FFL post

Instagram

www.instagram.com

At least she's wearing a mask. She has some sense.

 

[camper4lyfe]

 

[camper4lyfe]

That’s a joke. Most of the larger gun retailers — and all of the wholesalers — have electronic A&D records that ATF has direct access to.

This FFL has said that he keeps paper records because he doesn't trust the government (see video I posted above)

 

[kev74]

At least she's wearing a mask. She has some sense.

She's stealing data. She should be wearing a mask.

 

[FRANKIE]

I’m not one bit surprised. However,
Props to Blackmetalfirearms for the counter surveillance.

 

[2WheelGnnr]

Did they are anyone in the same shoes ask the auditor why are you doing this??? I know if my auditors for say Workers comp or somethng want or take something unusual I ask or want to know why..........for what purpose.

OH its ok its just for gun registry we are buildings...nothing to see here....just doing MY JOB........

 

[lrick]

@5:50 So, she's using her personal phone with one of those 'regular apps you can get from the app stores"....ah, the ones that require your consent to access your data, your camera, your microphone....etc

And we're all just paranoid gun nuts....

 

[FRANKIE]

Are they stealing credit card data too?
Just a prelude to how f*cked up and sick thing are really getting.

 

[2WheelGnnr]

Well they need the cc data so they can fine you for some made bullcrap law or something that you are gonna violate in the future for having a gun....dont worry its ok.....they need it for the future...

maybe a find for everyday you dont turn in your gun..... something..they will find a way to use it.

 

[Edwardteach72]

Some more info

 

[ArmedCorgi]

So possible explanation

FFL still using paper books.. ATF agent is converting them to digital pdf files

Nah, if that were the case they'd be scanning the pages, not using a cellphone camera.

 

[lrick]

At least she's wearing a mask. She has some sense.

Yeah...she's a boot-licking conformist all the way

 

[Edwardteach72]

Nah, if that were the case they'd be scanning the pages, not using a cellphone camera.

Lot of Cellphone cameras can scan and turn photos into PDFs

 

[SomeSoldier]

For her personal phone it wouldn't fall under FOIA

Depends, is that a gov phone or her personal.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

Lot of Cellphone cameras can scan and turn photos into PDFs

True.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

Some more info

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Not what I expected an ATF agent to look like, lol.

 

[lrick]

Not what I expected an ATF agent to look like, lol.

Was it the mousy librarian look or the lack of a Gestapo uniform that throws you off...?

 

[ArmedCorgi]

Was it the mousy librarian look or the lack of a Gestapo uniform that throws you off...?

Both

 

[camper4lyfe]

Depends, is that a gov phone or her personal.

She did it with two phones: .gov and personal.

 

[SomeSoldier]

She did it with two phones: .gov and personal.

She has zero authority to take pictures with her personal phone. Sue the fucking shit out of her for 4th amendment violations.

 

[maverick52]

Ok. Now what’s being done about it?

 

[FRANKIE]

Was it the mousy librarian look or the lack of a Gestapo uniform that throws you off...?

No
She’s pretty on par with the Brown shirts
Either that or she looks like she can slip into a Manila envelope in the file cabinet and no one would see her