ATF Seizes Firearms from Amish Dairy Farmer....

[nortatoga]

Report: ATF Seizes Firearms from Amish Dairy Farmer

Lancaster Online reported Tuesday that agents with the ATF seized firearms from an Amish farmer in Pennsylvania's Leacock Township.

www.breitbart.com

 

[FP1201]

They can control "Dealers" but not the average Citizen, so they resort to scarring the Public by arresting the least likely person they can find for doing something that really isn't illegal or well defined....again, I suspect this is just the beginning of a hidden White House backed agenda.

 

[tirwin1]

Targeting that segment of the population well known for illegal activity aka the Amish. This administration is an absolute joke. Meanwhile the average inner city gang banger has no problem getting arms.

 

[dsdmmat]

If you are selling off your assets for any reason ( need cash, upgrade, getting old) there is nothing illegal about that. If you are buying guns to resell then you are dealing without a license. I would think that is pretty clear. Look at the timeline of the acquisitions and disposals it would be able to tell you a great deal.

I know people buy a gun, go to the range and figure out they don’t like it then sell it quickly. I see people do that all the time, they usually are trading it in for something else.

If people buying a number of them and flipping them in a short period of time, that would look suspicious.

 

[Cavalry]

"Not in the business of selling" is their vague definition.
I would be curious for more info. Was he buying and then selling a short time later, and how many times did he sell?
Most Amish have issues buying from FFL's, Its kind of a problem when you dont have a photo ID or a identity in a database.

 

[fnfalguy]

I told you in the other thread @GOPerfect Lancaster Amish

 

[@thewheels]

"The Blaze pointed to King’s claim that the government has not told him how many guns a person must sell, and over what timeframe, before the ATF considers that individual a dealer."

Ahhh...good ol' ATF keepin' it vague to maintain their cuffing and stuffing numbers. How else you gonna get your budget upped?

 

[Carlos Hathcock]

Sad day when the "bad guy" is an Amish diary farmer still shitting in a wooden box and heating his house with wood. Good thing he didn't try to flee ot there'd be a dead horse riddled with hundreds of bullets. Are we really running out of "bad guys" to go after these days?

 

[meketrefe]

People actually waste money on those useless artifacts?

 

[holdover]

Clop, clop clop clop Bang! clop clop clop Amish drive by.

 

[pshift]

Some speculate that they have to do this because in order to get a permit, you must be photographed, which is against their way of life, reportedly.

The Amish & Photography: Is it ever OK? - Amish America

Amish attitudes to picture-taking vary It's a common belief that Amish don't like having their photos taken. You may even see “No photos please” signs displayed in Amish communities. And it's true that like any people, Amish don't like being treated like zoo animals. Most Amish people...

amishamerica.com

 

[holdover]

do they all have to get vaxxed? or do they get a fucking pass?

 

[FP1201]

So he's supposedly dealing in Guns, so why seize the 11 he was said to have?
More information is needed and mention of this needs to go our Congressional representatives.

 

[Acer-m14]

Shall not Infringe .. omg .... cant have photo id for voting that's racist but needed for arms ..

 

[Acer-m14]

Clop, clop clop clop Bang! clop clop clop Amish drive by.

never seen one ... lol

but sneek up on a Amish horse .. it will kick u into next week .. lol

 

[GOYABEAN]

"Not in the business of selling" is their vague definition.
I would be curious for more info. Was he buying and then selling a short time later, and how many times did he sell?
Most Amish have issues buying from FFL's, Its kind of a problem when you dont have a photo ID or a identity in a database.

Maybe it will come a time that they'll accept arrest warrants as I'D like they do for lawbreaking illegal immigrants boarding airliners you know like the one's that took down the Twin Towers crashed in a PA field and the Pentagon let's go Brandon

 

[Deplorable Me]

 

[fresch]

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[BerettaGuy]

If Shall not be infringed were followed, then buying and selling a firearm would be the same as buying or selling a hammer at a tool store.
Just as it was prior to the 1968 Gun Control Act because the thought of black men with guns made Democrats piss in their pants. (With the exception of NY's 1911 Sullivan Act for handguns)

 

[Acer-m14]

So the Amish Farmer is selling a few guns here and there and the ATF Raids ..

ATF .. what about the Amish Landmines they leave all over town ??

NO STEP ON POOP ..

 

[spat]

Sad day when the "bad guy" is an Amish diary farmer still shitting in a wooden box and heating his house with wood. Good thing he didn't try to flee ot there'd be a dead horse riddled with hundreds of bullets. Are we really running out of "bad guys" to go after these days?

The bad guys are protected.

We're so over run with them, and many are in positions of such power than LE is afraid to touch them.

So, they find the lowest threat individuals they can to justify their existence.

 

[spat]

If Shall not be infringed were followed, then buying and selling a firearm would be the same as buying or selling a hammer at a tool store.
Just as it was prior to the 1968 Gun Control Act because the thought of black men with guns made Democrats piss in their pants. (With the exception of NY's 1911 Sullivan Act for handguns)

Even more free than a hammer.

It's legal to tax a hammer, but not a ballot, or church.

It should be illegal to tax a gun or ammo for the same reasons.

 

[Saltwater60]

One thing that strikes me as odd is that he says he wasn’t really selling handguns. That indicates to me he was selling a lot of long guns, but maybe not. For the most part these people are like me and just want to be left alone. I’ve dealt with a few of them and they will out live us if shit hits the fan. They have a lot of land, resources, technology suited for that shit, and a great network. They know how to preserve food and grow food.

 

[Cavalry]

One thing that strikes me as odd is that he says he wasn’t really selling handguns. That indicates to me he was selling a lot of long guns, but maybe not. For the most part these people are like me and just want to be left alone. I’ve dealt with a few of them and they will out live us if shit hits the fan. They have a lot of land, resources, technology suited for that shit, and a great network. They know how to preserve food and grow food.

My understanding is the Amish do not approve of handguns because its seen as a weapon not a tool. He may have said that because his beliefs are that handguns are bad and longguns are fine

 

[Saltwater60]

My understanding is the Amish do not approve of handguns because its seen as a weapon not a tool. He may have said that because his beliefs are that handguns are bad and longguns are fine

Maybe. I’ve never heard that. I just thought it was weird. Also it didn’t say he never sold handguns he made it seem like it was frequently. I forget the wording, but it made me think he sold them occasionally.

 

[repete]

My understanding is the Amish do not approve of handguns because its seen as a weapon not a tool. He may have said that because his beliefs are that handguns are bad and longguns are fine

Maybe some sects, but I know of a few black powder handguns that are in Amish hands.

 

[FP1201]

If Shall not be infringed were followed, then buying and selling a firearm would be the same as buying or selling a hammer at a tool store.
Just as it was prior to the 1968 Gun Control Act because the thought of black men with guns made Democrats piss in their pants. (With the exception of NY's 1911 Sullivan Act for handguns)

Its was the Irish pissing their pants over the Italians.
I always thought the assassination of JFK was the basis of the GCA, but more likely it was the fear of loosing control...the 60's WERE a time of lots of serious protests, the true bitter clingers of that time are STILL in Congress.

 

[Acer-m14]

Its was the Irish pissing their pants over the Italians.
I always thought the assassination of JFK was the basis of the GCA, but more likely it was the fear of loosing control...the 60's WERE a time of lots of serious protests, the true bitter clingers of that time are STILL in Congress.

GCA Could have started even before that ..


A song ..

""The Night Chicago Died" is about a shoot-out between the Chicago Police and gangsters tied to Al Capone. It was inspired by the real-life Saint Valentine's Day Massacre,[2] although that involved Capone's men killing seven of Bugs Moran's gang members and had nothing to do with the police. "

1930's Al Capone was arrested in 1932 for income tax evasion.

Can't have them tommy guns ..

 

[FP1201]

Once I read the Congressional Record for the Hearing of the NFA of 1934 and the take away I remember was mostly from a big shot at Colt Firearms that didn't want non Governmental Persons to have Machineguns, and Democrats were in charge, all on the heels of the Great Depression and Stock market crash (again where THEY were loosing control of the Country) then along came WWII and the Presidents determination to get involved (War fires up the economy)
National Firearms Act of 1934 — The Congress Project

 

[BerettaGuy]

Its was the Irish pissing their pants over the Italians.
I always thought the assassination of JFK was the basis of the GCA, but more likely it was the fear of loosing control...the 60's WERE a time of lots of serious protests, the true bitter clingers of that time are STILL in Congress.

Both assassinations of the Kennedys and MLK were used in the "selling" of the GCA of 1968. They used social media of the day (pop music) and news stories. They (Southern Democrats) weren't about to say that they are paralyzed with fear when it comes to black men wif guns. They were smart enough not to say it then and they would never admit it today. So they blamed "Mail Order" guns and "Saturday Night Specials" while subtly convincing white suburban men that big blackbucks were a coming for their womenfolk with guns. The NRA was not a gun rights organization at that time because gun rights were not under assault until then But Congressmen feared them as a voting block. By crafting the Background Check record retention verbiage, they got the NRA to endorse the GCA Act. How did that work out for us? How did it work out for Black Americans?
You are right about the Irish and the Italians on the Sullivan Act. Again, newspapers of the day depicted mob violence as gun violence and NY Citizens were all for ending gun violence. How did that work out?