big beautiful bill merged threads

[tirwin1]

First the judges and now this. I have heard of this position before but I thought it had to deal with the rules of how a bill passes a vote. Now it appears the Democrats have found another way for unelected people to exercise power and thwart plans of those that were elected. Just more back alley, power at all costs move by a party out of control. Since when can this position unilaterally decide what can and cannot go into a piece of legislation?

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[thughes]

The BBB hasn't been "killed" (I like the clickbait thread title though). I believe this is part of the "does this pass the Byrd test and belong in a Reconcilliation Bill" process, and was expected to some extent. Many knew there were a few "grey" items that may not past muster but they went for it anyway (gotta try, right?).

The good news is that the Short Act (SBS) and the Hearing Protection Act (suppressors) appear to have passed the test.

 

[GOYABEAN]

Imagine if the so called politicians that get elected really try and stop acting like children in the school playground

 

[SomeSoldier]

Imagine is your elected officials were not pay operatives for other governments.

 

[Saltwater60]

The article says the parliamentarian said it wouldn’t pass but then also said it violated rules. Kind of saving money violates rules unless they are trying to pass laws in a spending bill. Oh wait NYS does that all the time.
Republicans feel they can reword the bill and get it passed. Medicaid is a hot button topic and it sure they can shove it through.

 

[livingston]

MASSIVE BREAKING JUST NOW: NFA REMOVAL BLOCKED BY SENATE PARLIAMENTARIAN RULES...​

The Senate Parliamentarian has ruled that Suppressors, SBRs, and Short-Barrel Shotguns cannot be removed from the NFA by reconciliation. Mark Smith Four Boxes Diner discusses...

 

[Saltwater60]

MASSIVE BREAKING JUST NOW: NFA REMOVAL BLOCKED BY SENATE PARLIAMENTARIAN RULES...​

The Senate Parliamentarian has ruled that Suppressors, SBRs, and Short-Barrel Shotguns cannot be removed from the NFA by reconciliation. Mark Smith Four Boxes Diner discusses...

Will they tell Hochul the same? I know it’s different because state and federal but NYS passes laws with budgets all the time.

 

[dsdmmat]

MASSIVE BREAKING JUST NOW: NFA REMOVAL BLOCKED BY SENATE PARLIAMENTARIAN RULES...​

The Senate Parliamentarian has ruled that Suppressors, SBRs, and Short-Barrel Shotguns cannot be removed from the NFA by reconciliation. Mark Smith Four Boxes Diner discusses...

This is my shocked face .

 

[SomeSoldier]

The government convinced everyone to support this pile of shit and then snatch the bait away. Your government hates you.

 

[Bustedknees]

Other than my dads cigarettes, I've never heard of this Parliamentary shit before today.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

I hope the bill fails.

 

[SomeSoldier]

I hope the bill fails.

Single issue bills, period. For both parties. It should be a law or rule.

 

[Zerex]

the Parliamentarians did the same thing to Biden...................rulz is rulez.

Budget reconciliation cannot have policy changes...........that requires 60 votes to accomplish.

Silencers not banned.........same as before............

 

[SomeSoldier]

the Parliamentarians did the same thing to Biden...................rulz is rulez.

Budget reconciliation cannot have policy changes...........that requires 60 votes to accomplish.

Silencers not banned.........same as before............

This is a tax issue, ruled on by SCOTUS as so, how is it not a budget item?

 

[Saltwater60]

Now they amended it now and it’s moving forward.

Senate votes to move forward on Trump’s ‘big, beautiful bill,’ though measure’s fate remains in question | CNN Politics

Senate Republicans took a major step toward delivering President Donald Trump his “big, beautiful bill” late Saturday, though the fate of the giant tax cuts and spending measure is still in question as other hurdles remain.

amp.cnn.com

 

[SomeSoldier]

Now they amended it now and it’s moving forward.

Senate votes to move forward on Trump’s ‘big, beautiful bill,’ though measure’s fate remains in question | CNN Politics

Senate Republicans took a major step toward delivering President Donald Trump his “big, beautiful bill” late Saturday, though the fate of the giant tax cuts and spending measure is still in question as other hurdles remain.

amp.cnn.com

Why CNN?

 

[TEOTWAWKI inc.]

If they make it a "$0 tax" now, the next Democrat in charge is just going to make it a $20,000 tax, or your stamp will have to be renewed annually or some shit.

 

[SomeSoldier]

If they make it a "$0 tax" now, the next Democrat in charge is just going to make it a $20,000 tax, or your stamp will have to be renewed annually or some shit.

And that is the only reason it would ever be passed.

 

[tirwin1]

 

[Zerex]

Parliamentarian generally rules......................politicians hate silencers, SBR's, Ghost Guns, AW's, MG's............think not?
blue states ban them all.

 

[Darth]

And that is the only reason it would ever be passed.

Wait wait... are you saying all this "just pass an EO, get stuff dun!!!!" mindset might not be such a great idea?

 

[SomeSoldier]

Fuck..

 

[TEOTWAWKI inc.]

Fuck..

Let's see if Musk keeps his promise and launches the America Party tomorrow.

 

[TEOTWAWKI inc.]

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[tirwin1]

Let's see if Musk keeps his promise and launches the America Party tomorrow.

Musk is acting like a petulant child. This will only help the Democrats. Which guarantees his professed concern (the debt) will get worse.

 

[TEOTWAWKI inc.]

Musk is acting like a petulant child. This will only help the Democrats. Which guarantees his professed concern (the debt) will get worse.

The country is fucked anyway, and I have hoped for a new non-uniparty for a long time. If it is conservative, I'll probably support it.

 

[GOPerfect]

When all in America put away the notion that our political system is a multi party rule, their lives will in fact, be better

 

[dsdmmat]

Let's see if Musk keeps his promise and launches the America Party tomorrow.

3rd parties in Modern America have always failed to get the traction to compete against the two dominant parties. That is why the Socialist and MAGA have taken over the dominate parties. Otherwise they cannot compete against the behemoths.

 

[SomeSoldier]

You can't vote your way out of communism. Based on the actions of our government and our currently laws, and recent cases where the government works against the wishes of the people. Someone explain to me how we are not currently under communist law.

 

[FP1201]

3rd parties in Modern America have always failed to get the traction to compete against the two dominant parties. That is why the Socialist and MAGA have taken over the dominate parties. Otherwise they cannot compete against the behemoths.