Bill to ban bump stocks and binary triggers introduced

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Phazer said:
Here's my concern:
  • They'll get the bump stock banned.
  • They'll add vague language that will criminalize any mechanical features that allow a semiautomatic firearm to fire faster.
  • They'll initially get a ban on binary trigger systems since they effectively double the rate of fire.
  • They'll still notice that practiced shooters can achieve decent (read: scary) rates of fire with standard trigger groups.
  • They'll then tell us that lighter pull weight triggers allow faster firing while making target acquisition more efficient.
  • They'll then tell law enforcement that light triggers are implied as banned items.
  • They'll set some arbitrary high weight trigger as a minimum trigger weight (ex/ 12-pound "New York trigger" on Glock pistols for NYPD).
  • Vendors will stop selling trigger groups for fear of criminal penalties if their products don't meet unwritten specifications in the law.
  • And...eventually....a complete ban on semiautomatic magazine-fed firearms.
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Agreed, the language needs to be done carefully. They want to ban the stocks and cranks that is where the language needs to end. Hopefully the NRA steps in to make sure that anyone with a fast finger is left alone.
 
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71velle said:
Agreed, the language needs to be done carefully. They want to ban the stocks and cranks that is where the language needs to end. Hopefully the NRA steps in to make sure that anyone with a fast finger is left alone.
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Ummm..."the NRA steps in..."

Sorry, but the NRA just stepped in it. They're paving the way for a national "features test" for all semiautomatic firearms.
 
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71velle said:
Agreed, the language needs to be done carefully. They want to ban the stocks and cranks that is where the language needs to end. Hopefully the NRA steps in to make sure that anyone with a fast finger is left alone.
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Screw the NRA, All they do is compromise with wolves.
 
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Damn I got roped in to another political thread.

Here's my problem with this whole thing. Let's assume the bill is 100% written well and only regulate bump fire stocks and binary triggers. Now let's assume the repubs and the NRA sell us out hail this as the best bipartisanship legislation in years.

OK no if ask any person who is in favor of such a bill why these things should be illegal. The answer you always get is they allow you to shoot too many too fast. Now this where we are in trouble. By signing on to this bill we are essentially agreeing the rate of fire is directly related to the leathality of the weapon.

So we've already set ourselves up with the reasoning and logic for the next ban..... all semi automatics will be too dangerous because of their rate of fire. And when we go to fight against it they will make us look like idiots because we already agreed that increased rate of fire is too dangerous.

So the way I see it were pretty well fucked.
 
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What aggravates me it the RINOs are going give away bump stocks (no great loss in my opinion) but are getting nothing in return. Most important is National Reciprocity, then suppressors. You can work around suppressors, (ear plugs and ear muffs), can't work around liberal disarmament state (except don't go there) but some times you have to.
 
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