Bullpup beltfed lever action 44magnum

Marine Cpl · Jul 8, 2020

Too bad something like that still wouldn’t be legal here in NY due to the belt.

Marine Cpl · Jul 8, 2020

That_FNG said:
Well the belt would be limited to 10 rounds but otherwise good to go

It would be readily convertible to accept more than 10. All you have to do is add one more link. If they made this lever bull pup magazine fed, then it would be legal.

spat · Jul 8, 2020

Marine Cpl said:
It would be readily convertible to accept more than 10. All you have to do is add one more link. If they made this lever bull pup magazine fed, then it would be legal.

This one is not a disintegrating belt. The belt is a fixed capacity, so a 10 round version should be NY legal.

While it *could* have it's capacity increased, it would be more difficult that many magazines that are widely considered compliant. (for instance any 10 round magazine that someone makes a +1 baseplate for)

Marine Cpl · Jul 8, 2020

spat said:
This one is not a disintegrating belt. The belt is a fixed capacity, so a 10 round version should be NY legal.

While it *could* have it's capacity increased, it would be more difficult that many magazines that are widely considered compliant. (for instance any 10 round magazine that someone makes a +1 baseplate for)

What are you talking about? All one has to do is add another link. Whether it disintegrates or not is irrelevant. The law says readily convertible. If adding one more link isn’t readily convertible, then what is?

spat · Jul 9, 2020

Marine Cpl said:
What are you talking about? All one has to do is add another link. Whether it disintegrates or not is irrelevant. The law says readily convertible. If adding one more link isn’t readily convertible, then what is?

They are not belts that you can easily add a link to.

They are fixed belts, like the old cloth 1919 belts.

Adding another link to one would be much harder than throwing a +1 baseplate on a regular magazine.

You do not assemble one of these belts as you load it like a disintegrating belt. When you build the belt originally you give it all the links it will ever have.

Acer-m14 · Jul 9, 2020

i hate the safe act but what does a belt feed on a lever action have to do with it . its not semi auto ..

spat · Jul 9, 2020

Acer-m14 said:
i hate the safe act but what does a belt feed on a lever action have to do with it . its not semi auto ..

The belt itself is a high cap magazine if it can hold more than 10 rounds.

Doesn't matter if it's a magazine for a lever action.

CarpNY · Jul 9, 2020

Acer-m14 said:
i hate the safe act but what does a belt feed on a lever action have to do with it . its not semi auto ..

Semi-auto, detachable magazine = no FH/MB, no threaded barrel, no foregrip, no collapsible stock, no pistol grip
Almost everything* = no capacity over 10 rounds

You can't even have a good ol' fashion walnut/blued lever with a mag tube that holds > 10*.

* Interestingly, .22 cal tubular magazines are specifically exempted, but not smaller caliber rimfires.

Marine Cpl · Jul 9, 2020

spat said:
They are not belts that you can easily add a link to.

They are fixed belts, like the old cloth 1919 belts.

Adding another link to one would be much harder than throwing a +1 baseplate on a regular magazine.

You do not assemble one of these belts as you load it like a disintegrating belt. When you build the belt originally you give it all the links it will ever have.

I guess you are correct if each link doesn’t snap in together with just a press of the fingers.

Paxal · Jul 9, 2020

That_FNG said:
Belt-Fed Bullpup Lever-Action Rifle Chambered in .44 Magnum -

Recently, I came across a YouTube channel called ADF Projects and Designs which has published a video showing their latest project - a belt-fed bullpup lever-action rifle! Yes, it is a precise description of this firearm's action/layout and it's a functional firearm even though it looks like a...

www.thefirearmblog.com

Well, for one, I hope Ruger decided to buy this design from this guy. I mean why not, even without the belt-feed, it is a fantastic new take on a lever action gun. I want one. The hard work is already done for them. Redesign it for a 10 round rotary magazine and you're gold. Better yet, if possible design it so that you can use a magazine or a belt-feed module that snaps into the same spot.

It will never happen, but, it's cool the dream.

ManrisFrack · Jul 9, 2020

Paxal said:
Well, for one, I hope Ruger decided to buy this design from this guy. I mean why not, even without the belt-feed, it is a fantastic new take on a lever action gun. I want one. The hard work is already done for them. Redesign it for a 10 round rotary magazine and you're gold. Better yet, if possible design it so that you can use a magazine or a belt-feed module that snaps into the same spot.

It will never happen, but, it's cool the dream.

It's public domain now. Anyone can build it and sell it without giving this guy a dime.

@thewheels · Jul 9, 2020

Ruger production can't keep up with the demand for the models that they currently have.

spat · Jul 9, 2020

Marine Cpl said:
I guess you are correct if each link doesn’t snap in together with just a press of the fingers.

The belt appears to have steel hinge pins that are pressed into place.

Probably not terribly difficult to add more, but certainly harder than swapping a baseplate on a glock mag.

Marine Cpl · Jul 9, 2020

When you are right, you are right. It does appear to be put together by roll pins if you zoom closely in.

repete · Jul 11, 2020

Marine Cpl said:
It would be readily convertible to accept more than 10. All you have to do is add one more link. If they made this lever bull pup magazine fed, then it would be legal.

Uh-oh! Never gave it a thought but I might have a short belt of assorted .50 BMG rounds sitting on a shelf. If I had something like that and it was only six rounds Id 'probably think it was legal to have but now? Guess it's a good thing I lost it in that horrible canoe accident.

Cooolone · Jul 11, 2020

Is pretty cool, but not sure why he wouldn't make the front handle the pump/lever for the cycling action... I think it would provide a more consistent shot placement than having to move the trigger hand to cycle the lever. Just an observation! Like I said, is pretty cool regardless!

meketrefe · Jul 11, 2020

One never knows what absurd chit some people are going to come up with next.
General Kalashnikov was right....
Anybody can invent something complicated, that is easy, the real difficult thing is to invent something simple that works well.

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