"Can Trump Win Without Getting Right on the Vaccines?" - America Out Loud

[prambo]

https://www.americaoutloud.com/can-trump-win-without-getting-right-on-the-vaccines/

"This is now the largest single-issue swing vote in the history of American elections, and you can bet that their decision to vote for, vote against, or not vote will strongly consider ANY candidate’s position on the mRNA death jab vaccines. I support Trump in just about everything but the jab, but I do not believe he can win in 2024 without getting right on this issue."

I ponder this myself - IMHO, he should admit, at least, that he was bamboozled. In reality he was gang butt-fucked.

"Operation Warp Speed" was a concerted effort to maim and kill people - there is no other answer - even the "scientific" journals are now filling with an ever increasing list of serious and permanent adverse effects.

And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

Some of these adverse effects are either going to cripple future generations, if it isn't killing them outright.

[Please, don't go with the "we have to get him in warts and all" - I've had my fill of bullshit. The people who planned and carried out the "scamdemic" need to be severely punished. End of story.]

 

[spat]

Can Trump Win Without Getting Right on the Vaccines?

"This is now the largest single-issue swing vote in the history of American elections, and you can bet that their decision to vote for, vote against, or not vote will strongly consider ANY candidate’s position on the mRNA death jab vaccines. I support Trump in just about everything but the jab, but I do not believe he can win in 2024 without getting right on this issue."

I ponder this myself - IMHO, he should admit, at least, that he was bamboozled. In reality he was gang butt-fucked.

"Operation Warp Speed" was a concerted effort to maim and kill people - there is no other answer - even the "scientific" journals are now filling with an ever increasing list of serious and permanent adverse effects.

And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

Some of these adverse effects are either going to cripple future generations, if it isn't killing them outright.

[Please, don't go with the "we have to get him in warts and all" - I've had my fill of bullshit. The people who planned and carried out the "scamdemic" need to be severely punished. End of story.]

Attempting to accelerate the development of a vaccine for a disease that was causing so much damage (mostly to the economy) was not a bad idea. Can't fault him here.

Letting certain shitweasels spearhead the effort was his primary mistake. This you can fault Trump for. But to be fair, it was probably very difficult to avoid, the swamp is everywhere.

Mandating it was a crime against humanity, but that was not Trump's fault, he was not involved in that shit, nor would he have approved of it if he were.

He's not perfect, he's just the best choice we've had in a very long time.

 

[ManualF150]

I've told this to many people. I don't 100% like Trump, but more like 90%.

My liking to Xiden the diaper king is -100%. He needs to go.

 

[Defilade]

Safe and Effective! Science told me so........ Wear a mask, Science told me that too!

 

[Defilade]

 

[prambo]

Attempting to accelerate the development of a vaccine for a disease that was causing so much damage (mostly to the economy) was not a bad idea. Can't fault him here.

For once I'm going to straight up disagree with you - IMHO, the highlighted statement is medically and scientifically untrue.

Any economic damage was: 1) based on the CCP model and 2) completely intentional.

A majority of the medical damage done, to even older people with co-morbidities, was by the patently braindead and medically unsound policies (remdesivir and ventilators killed tens of thousands) put in place by a hubristic political and medical system that needs to be rebuilt from the ground up.

Add in the essential outlawing of drugs - hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin - with stellar safety records for early treatment and you have another intentional part of the plan - namely depopulation. In actuality, there was NO "early treatment" - "Stay at home until you can't breathe and turn blue" is not sound medical advice or practice.

Trump should have over-ruled ALL governors outlawing those 2 drugs - fuck the "experts" - it was obvious early on that the "scamdemic" was a pre-designed and war-gamed clusterfuck, and Trump fell for it.

Realistically, how can anyone take a short obvious narcissist like FauXi seriously - fucking ever.

The bullshit that this was a "Novel" coronavirus was just that - complete bullshit - it was a little nastier than the 4 KNOWN coronaviruses, and not even remotely as nasty as the original SARS. SARS-CoV-2 was a close kissing cousin of the original SARS - it was hardly novel- unless you count being intentionally designed and released "novel".

By the time COVID got started, Trump had been butt-fucked my "Mad Dog" Mattis (traitorous POS) and that moron Jeff Sessions. And they weren't the only ones - members of his immediate family were shitweasels too.

He selected, or let others select for him, Deep State apparatchiks - he has to answer for that.

 

[SomeSoldier]

Trump can't win because our elections are rigged. We live in a banana republic.

 

[Defilade]

Trump can't win because our elections are rigged. We live in a banana republic.

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[spat]

For once I'm going to straight up disagree with you - IMHO, the highlighted statement is medically and scientifically untrue.

Any economic damage was: 1) based on the CCP model and 2) completely intentional.

A majority of the medical damage done, to even older people with co-morbidities, was by the patently braindead and medically unsound policies (remdesivir and ventilators killed tens of thousands) put in place by a hubristic political and medical system that needs to be rebuilt from the ground up.

Add in the essential outlawing of drugs - hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin - with stellar safety records for early treatment and you have another intentional part of the plan - namely depopulation. In actuality, there was NO "early treatment" - "Stay at home until you can't breathe and turn blue" is not sound medical advice or practice.

Trump should have over-ruled ALL governors outlawing those 2 drugs - fuck the "experts" - it was obvious early on that the "scamdemic" was a pre-designed and war-gamed clusterfuck, and Trump fell for it.

Realistically, how can anyone take a short obvious narcissist like FauXi seriously - fucking ever.

The bullshit that this was a "Novel" coronavirus was just that - complete bullshit - it was a little nastier than the 4 KNOWN coronaviruses, and not even remotely as nasty as the original SARS. SARS-CoV-2 was a close kissing cousin of the original SARS - it was hardly novel- unless you count being intentionally designed and released "novel".

By the time COVID got started, Trump had been butt-fucked my "Mad Dog" Mattis (traitorous POS) and that moron Jeff Sessions. And they weren't the only ones - members of his immediate family were shitweasels too.

He selected, or let others select for him, Deep State apparatchiks - he has to answer for that.

I didn't say the disease was *directly* causing the damage.

But you can't argue that the damage happened as a result of the disease. The fact that most of the damage was caused by people exploiting the disease for political or economic reasons doesn't change the scope of the damage.

Trump eas not in a position to order the Democrat governors to stop committing economic suicide, nor to order them to stop mandating perverse courses of medical treatment.

The best he could hope for was to end the whole saga as quickly as possible, and a vaccine was a good bet for that.

 

[SonOfSun]

Trump can't win because our elections are rigged. We live in a banana republic.

Trump can't win because he's a shit candidate.

DeSantis > Biden > Trump = Clinton.

I'll be voting in that order, assuming either Ron/Don are the nominees for the R.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Not sure if it is true but my understanding is the following. The DS planned on shutting down society for at least a decade the way they did over the last few years. Business would close, people would be on lock down (like Australia), the government would provide your income, suicide and death would be out the roof, etc.. Trump wanted to fast track something, anything to provide a "solution" so that society could open up sooner than later. This is basically the reason why he did what he did. Before this being brought to light I was very angry at Trump for jumping on the "vaccine" band wagon. Once this situation was shared with me, I didn't have the same anger.

 

[spat]

Trump can't win because he's a shit candidate.

DeSantis > Biden > Trump = Clinton.

I'll be voting in that order, assuming either Ron/Don are the nominees for the R.

Are you still sticking by the "I did better financially under Biden than Trump" nonsense ?

You have to be the only guy in the US outside of DC that has....

 

[Dr. Evil]

Are you still sticking by the "I did better financially under Biden than Trump" nonsense ?

You have to be the only guy in the US outside of DC that has....

He is the captain of the SS Brandon. He has to go down with the ship.

 

[SonOfSun]

Are you still sticking by the "I did better financially under Biden than Trump" nonsense ?

You have to be the only guy in the US outside of DC that has....

Yes we have. That's largely our own doing though. I gained more skills and made myself more valuable. My wife also continued down her career path. We did that, both Trump and Biden are irrelevant in that. You make your own success or failure, blaming it (or crediting) to a third party is avoiding personal responsibility.

If anyone here is 'failing' under Biden the problem isn't the president, it's the reflection in the mirror.

 

[spat]

Yes we have. That's largely our own doing though. I gained more skills and made myself more valuable. My wife also continued down her career path. We did that, both Trump and Biden are irrelevant in that. You make your own success or failure, blaming it (or crediting) to a third party is avoiding personal responsibility.

If anyone here is 'failing' under Biden the problem isn't the president, it's the reflection in the mirror.

That's a ridiculous outlook on things.

You have to normalize for your personal development. Assuming you did the same thing, you would be better under Trump.

If your 401k is higher now than it was, but that's only because you've been dumping cash into it out of every paycheck that doesn't count as "doing better" LOL.

You also need to normalize for inflation. If you got anything less than a 10% raise at work, you got a pay cut in real dollars.

Imagine you put in the same work, but there *wasn't* 10% inflation LOL.

 

[Defilade]

Trump can't win because he's a shit candidate.

DeSantis > Biden > Trump = Clinton.

I'll be voting in that order, assuming either Ron/Don are the nominees for the R.

 

[SonOfSun]

Nice memes.

Here's the thing though; Memes don't vote. I do. Good day.

 

[Defilade]

Nice memes.

Here's the thing though; Memes don't vote. I do. Good day.

How's your "Vote" doing? All the things you wanted? Your "Vote" is a laughing stock across the world. I'm sure you keep it quite in public.

 

[Defilade]

 

[John Stark]

I ponder this myself - IMHO, he should admit, at least, that he was bamboozled. In reality he was gang butt-fucked.

"Operation Warp Speed" was a concerted effort to maim and kill people - there is no other answer - even the "scientific" journals are now filling with an ever increasing list of serious and permanent adverse effects.

Trump was running around claiming his administration saved 10s, maybe 100s, of millions of people with Operation Warpspeed. He hasn't been talking about that much lately, but he also hasn't owned up to his own lies about it either.

The utterly pathetic excuses people make for Trump hold zero water.

He was the president of the United States, yet he played politics with a lie that laid waste not just to our economy and bankrupted a lot of people and businesses, put poison in a large percentage of our population under evil EAU authorization, and disrupted our entire society, but he also was part and parcel of the complete abrogation of our God-give, Natural, and Constitutional Rights.

For the excuse makers, let me ask this question: Should any president with the obvious intelligence necessary to win an election and gain the White House EVER work directly against his own People, or cave to "political considerations" rather than defend the document he swore uphold?

He signed off on the whole fucking thing when he put Fauci and Birx on stage to perform like barking seals in front of the nation, and he signed off by expediting the vax and a whole lot more in the wretched and sordid debacle that we're still not done with yet. How many times during the scam did he point out how many respirators his admin acquired or churned out so that the states could use those to kill people by putting them in the vent? How many people who lost their jobs (like me) because they refused the vax that Trump made sure was brewed up in witches cauldrons?

He could have used his VAST powers as president to stop the madness, to arrest it, to at least slow it down; instead he threw the power away that WE THE PEOPLE invested in him, said powers which were and are intended to help us, not fucking ruin us.

No admission, no apology, can ever right the terrible wrongs that were perpetuated by HIS administration. He owns it as much as the Deep State, because he had the political power and authority, but did NOTHING to stop it and LOTS to help it along.

He let the entire Deep State run him right over like a boulder over a field mouse. The man famous for saying "you're fired" fired almost no one, and most of the Fedscum who worked the switchboards and carried out the ops for Operation WuFlu DURING HIS ADMINISTRATION are still in power, still making their inflated salaries, and are still plague upon us with their lies and their tyranny.

Fuck him, and fuck them.

 

[SonOfSun]

How's your "Vote" doing? All the things you wanted? Your "Vote" is a laughing stock across the world. I'm sure you keep it quite in public.

Doing better than Trump, though that's a low bar. Biden sucks too, just not as bad.

 

[Defilade]

Doing better than Trump, though that's a low bar. Biden sucks too, just not as bad.

 

[Truebeliever]

Trump was running around claiming his administration saved 10s, maybe 100s, of millions of people with Operation Warpspeed. He hasn't been talking about that much lately, but he also hasn't owned up to his own lies about it either.

The utterly pathetic excuses people make for Trump hold zero water.

He was the president of the United States, yet he played politics with a lie that laid waste not just to our economy and bankrupted a lot of people and businesses, put poison in a large percentage of our population under evil EAU authorization, and disrupted our entire society, but he also was part and parcel of the complete abrogation of our God-give, Natural, and Constitutional Rights.

For the excuse makers, let me ask this question: Should any president with the obvious intelligence necessary to win an election and gain the White House EVER work directly against his own People, or cave to "political considerations" rather than defend the document he swore uphold?

He signed off on the whole fucking thing when he put Fauci and Birx on stage to perform like barking seals in front of the nation, and he signed off by expediting the vax and a whole lot more in the wretched and sordid debacle that we're still not done with yet. How many times during the scam did he point out how many respirators his admin acquired or churned out so that the states could use those to kill people by putting them in the vent? How many people who lost their jobs (like me) because they refused the vax that Trump made sure was brewed up in witches cauldrons?

He could have used his VAST powers as president to stop the madness, to arrest it, to at least slow it down; instead he threw the power away that WE THE PEOPLE invested in him, said powers which were and are intended to help us, not fucking ruin us.

No admission, no apology, can ever right the terrible wrongs that were perpetuated by HIS administration. He owns it as much as the Deep State, because he had the political power and authority, but did NOTHING to stop it and LOTS to help it along.

He let the entire Deep State run him right over like a boulder over a field mouse. The man famous for saying "you're fired" fired almost no one, and most of the Fedscum who worked the switchboards and carried out the ops for Operation WuFlu DURING HIS ADMINISTRATION are still in power, still making their inflated salaries, and are still plague upon us with their lies and their tyranny.

Fuck him, and fuck them.

He let them? They came after him like no man in modern history. They impeached him twice. Both based on a lie. The appointment of a special prosecutor who was hand picked by the very person involved in the soft coup kept Trump from being able to do anything. If he fired them, it was “obstruction “ remember? At would give them legal grounds to impeach and imprison him even if he was innocent of whatever they would come up with.
He was undercut right from the beginning before he knew how they played the game — go see Comey’s interview about Mike Flynn. The RINOs had betrayed Trump when he attempted to make peace with the establishment. He knows better now.
Trump did get the vaccine made in record time. And he should take full credit for it. It saved many lives. Certain people absolutely needed it. It was the democrats vaccine mandate is the issue and Trump had nothing to do with the mandate

 

[fresch]

Not sure the jab saved anyone.

 

[Jmac00]

Doing better than Trump, though that's a low bar. Biden sucks too, just not as bad.

put the crack pipe down, and slowly back up.

Just curious, how many of your dead ancestor's have voted in the last election?

Improving one station in life has nothing to do with anything, other than ones own ambition. Whether there was a scamdemic or not.

 

[Defilade]

Not sure the jab saved anyone.

Yeah, no data on that one... That would be a Lie. A lot of Bonus money for Doctors that pushed it though. That would be the truth.

 

[Jmac00]

just as a side note: South Dakota never locked down. Kristi Noem never told anyone to wear a mask or to close their business or schools

South Dakota got through the scamdemic just fine.

 

[SonOfSun]

Just curious, how many of your dead ancestor's have voted in the last election?

None. That's how being dead works. Dead people don't do anything, well except maybe rot.

Improving one station in life has nothing to do with anything, other than ones own ambition. Whether there was a scamdemic or not.

I'd agree. But that still doesn't change the fact that Trump's "tax cuts and jobs" was a tax increase for me. If anything I'm doing better despite Trump's punative tax code changes, and that's because of my own doing. I'd be doing better if Trump's tax changes never happened.

 

[SonOfSun]

That's a ridiculous outlook on things.

You have to normalize for your personal development. Assuming you did the same thing, you would be better under Trump.

If your 401k is higher now than it was, but that's only because you've been dumping cash into it out of every paycheck that doesn't count as "doing better" LOL.

You also need to normalize for inflation. If you got anything less than a 10% raise at work, you got a pay cut in real dollars.

Imagine you put in the same work, but there *wasn't* 10% inflation LOL.

So I'm well ahead. I already knew that.

 

[Vinson57]

Trump is allowed to speak highly of the vaccines as that is the media message they will always maintain as safe and effective. Everything else is censored and will not be spoke about. RFK jr wants to and would attack trump on all his actions but RFK is going to be censored out of existence and it will be nothing heard. All the vaxhooles and there are many, none want anyone saying their vax was bad. What happened when Trump spoke of HCQ? Three weeks prior on the Medcram YT channel, it was said to be working with Zinc and explained its action. We all got used in the initial part of the outbreak that it was deadly and kills anybody. Warpspeed is exactly what the public expected and wanted and they got it. Everyone around Trump was lying.