Chopped my p320 today

[SigSweet]

Well just the handle

Got the dremel out and cut my p320 Compact handle it to fit the subcompact mag
Saved about 1inch in handle length and still have the ability to run a light

 

[Celt]

Looks pretty clean man.

 

[Podmonkey]

Interesting. How's it handle? Specifically I'm wondering how well the new three finger grip ballances the comparatively long slide?

 

[togmaster]

How many fingers can you get on that grip now?

 

[atc250r]

Can you put a sleeve on the grip? It'd make it almost impossible to tell its been fiddled with.

 

[Phauxtoe]

From here I would have never known!

 

[SigSweet]

Interesting. How's it handle? Specifically I'm wondering how well the new three finger grip ballances the comparatively long slide?

Feels not to different shotting as i usually dont apply much pressure with my pinky on the grip.

How many fingers can you get on that grip now?

3 comfortably

only thing I should have done different was leaving more of a beaver tail

 

[Podmonkey]

As a side note, how tight is the slide to frame fitbof the P320? I love my PPQ and it performs amazingly well but the rattley fit of the slide irritates me!

 

[FLA45fan]

As a side note, how tight is the slide to frame fitbof the P320? I love my PPQ and it performs amazingly well but the rattley fit of the slide irritates me!

1911 wannabe

 

[Podmonkey]

1911 wannabe

That could be good or bad. I've handled some that made you think the slide was ready to fall off and some that you'd need a vise to get unlocked!

 

[ECU Pirates]

What reference wrist crown is that?

 

[Catskillkid]

Can I ask where you got it? The P320 Compact is on my short list for next purchase and none of the places near me carry that model.

 

[Saltwater60]

No one has it around me either. I wanted the subcompact. Buffalo gun center did have a compact model and as far as I know it's still there. I know that's not near you, but places around me wanted $50-100 more than BGC had the tag on it just to order the gun for me.

 

[SigSweet]

As a side note, how tight is the slide to frame fitbof the P320? I love my PPQ and it performs amazingly well but the rattley fit of the slide irritates me!

Its honestly looser then the PPQ, although I wouldnt say the 320 rattles or anything just has a bit of movement

Also to note my 320 has around 6500 rounds through it so it might be looser then the PPQ since that has less then 1k though it

 

[SigSweet]

What reference wrist crown is that?

116610LV
Goes well with my OD green grip and AR parts

 

[SigSweet]

Can I ask where you got it? The P320 Compact is on my short list for next purchase and none of the places near me carry that model.

I ordered it right when it came out from a local gun store. That is why this grip doesnt match the slide release.
The newer models come with the flat take down lever and small slide release along with the new style grip that matches up with those.

I upgraded to the newer parts so i have 2 extra grips that dont match up with the newer parts like this one that I chopped.

I have ordered pistols from Sportsman guide and Buds and had them shipped to a local FPL as well with no issues if you wanted to go that route

 

[Defilade]

You do know you could have bought the Sub-compact frame for about 46 bucks and slapped it on and got the same result? Looks good though.

P320, P250 Subcompact Grip Module, 9mm, .40 AUTO, .357SIG | Grip Modules | Parts

 

[ECU Pirates]

116610LV
Goes well with my OD green grip and AR parts

Great choice. I keep changing my mind between the sub and the explorer 2. It will be passed on to my son so maybe I should let him pick (he's only a year old).

 

[SigSweet]

You do know you could have bought the Sub-compact frame for about 46 bucks and slapped it on and got the same result? Looks good though.

P320, P250 Subcompact Grip Module, 9mm, .40 AUTO, .357SIG | Grip Modules | Parts

Wouldnt fit my current holsters as the trigger guard is round instead of square and the SC grip doesnt have the Picatinny Rail to hold a light if i wanted to.

Still might pick one up though the try it out

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

I'm guessing 9mm? I was seriously looking into getting a compact in 357 sig.

 

[SigSweet]

Great choice. I keep changing my mind between the sub and the explorer 2. It will be passed on to my son so maybe I should let him pick (he's only a year old).

I always liked the explorer but it doesnt feel right on the wrist. I highly suggest you try them on, the flatter bezel just seems different to me as well, not sure if that was a good or bad thing.

This one was a choice between the LV or the GMT II blnr, made the right choice but still want to add the blnr

 

[SigSweet]

I'm guessing 9mm? I was seriously looking into getting a compact in 357 sig.

Yes this one is 9mm.

I would love a 357 sig conversion kit but that would equate to some expensive shooting.

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

Yes this one is 9mm.

I would love a 357 sig conversion kit but that would equate to some expensive shooting.

I honestly don't even consider ammo prices when getting a new caliber anymore. Reloading can make just about any caliber affordable to shoot less it's a super duper obscure caliber. Fun as shit too.

 

[SigSweet]

I honestly don't even consider ammo prices when getting a new caliber anymore. Reloading can make just about any caliber affordable to shoot less it's a super duper obscure caliber. Fun as shit too.

Thats true

With a necked case like the 357 sig, do you have to trim or need extra dies?
I also hardly (never) see 357 sig brass on the range to supplement buying factory ammo to shoot to reload the brass

As well my reloading costs for 9mm is about 10.5 cents a round for a round that mimmicks my carry ammo, i guess the real issue is I am to lazy to start the trial and error process over again to get to what my gun/I can shoot well and a lot of without breaking the bank

 

[Saltwater60]

Yes this one is 9mm.

I would love a 357 sig conversion kit but that would equate to some expensive shooting.

From what I investigated you are not allowed to get the conversion kit. I looked at this same gun and thought the same thing that caliber swapping was a benefit. Sig will not ship the conversion kits to nys and when I looked no one else had them. So think about that before you buy. I know a lot of people have .22 covers ion kits for 1911's so it might be sig being extra cautious. There is a lot of that going on lately. Cdnn won't ship ar uppers to nys grab a gun won't ship anmo to nys. So who knows.

 

[SigSweet]

From what I investigated you are not allowed to get the conversion kit. I looked at this same gun and thought the same thing that caliber swapping was a benefit. Sig will not ship the conversion kits to nys and when I looked no one else had them. So think about that before you buy. I know a lot of people have .22 covers ion kits for 1911's so it might be sig being extra cautious. There is a lot of that going on lately. Cdnn won't ship ar uppers to nys grab a gun won't ship anmo to nys. So who knows.

Really?
If you want i can shoot one of the customer service guys over there who i order all my parts through an email to see what he says.

I dont think i would ever realistically get a conversion kit, for the cost and hassle getting the caliber added to my permit along with the $40 magazines I would be better off just buying a new gun

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

Thats true

With a necked case like the 357 sig, do you have to trim or need extra dies?
I also hardly (never) see 357 sig brass on the range to supplement buying factory ammo to shoot to reload the brass

As well my reloading costs for 9mm is about 10.5 cents a round for a round that mimmicks my carry ammo, i guess the real issue is I am to lazy to start the trial and error process over again to get to what my gun/I can shoot well and a lot of without breaking the bank

I'm not sure about the trimming. With my 7.62x25 I've shot the same cases over and over and they seem to stay the same length. I actually did order a trim pilot for the casings though (yesterday in fact) because I will be forming casings out of .223. You can buy once fired or even new brass for 357 sig everywhere. And of course you could form your own. There is a caveat with forming it though.

The .40 casing is slightly shorter than the 357 sig casing. Some do it but some say it's dangerous. I would personally do it. The .40 casing is 21.59mm long. The 357 sig is 21.97mm long with a minimum of 21.72mm. A difference of .13mm from the 40. A 40 casing would probably stretch out to the minimum 357 sig length after just forming it. Almost certainly after the first firing. To give some perspective on short cases, the 7.62x25 case length is .990. When you buy brand new starline brass it measures .958 to .962. These measurements are straight from their website and I have confirmed them as well. They load and shoot just fine. I also have some .223 loads where the cases are way shorter than spec and they can remove gonads off a nat from 100 yards. I achieve this load using data directly from here Take Aim at Rifle Reloading Data | Hodgdon Reloading. Short casings aren't a big deal. It's cases that are too long that cause problems.

 

[Uzi]

Hmm.. Interesting.

 

[SigSweet]

I'm not sure about the trimming. With my 7.62x25 I've shot the same cases over and over and they seem to stay the same length. I actually did order a trim pilot for the casings though (yesterday in fact) because I will be forming casings out of .223. You can buy once fired or even new brass for 357 sig everywhere. And of course you could form your own. There is a caveat with forming it though.

The .40 casing is slightly shorter than the 357 sig casing. Some do it but some say it's dangerous. I would personally do it. The .40 casing is 21.59mm long. The 357 sig is 21.97mm long with a minimum of 21.72mm. A difference of .13mm from the 40. A 40 casing would probably stretch out to the minimum 357 sig length after just forming it. Almost certainly after the first firing. To give some perspective on short cases, the 7.62x25 case length is .990. When you buy brand new starline brass it measures .958 to .962. These measurements are straight from their website and I have confirmed them as well. They load and shoot just fine. I also have some .223 loads where the cases are way shorter than spec and they can remove gonads off a nat from 100 yards. I achieve this load using data directly from here Take Aim at Rifle Reloading Data | Hodgdon Reloading. Short casings aren't a big deal. It's cases that are too long that cause problems.

Thats good to know and makes sense, I appreciate you explaining your thoughts as well

I trim my 223 brass to min length as well and 10% of the time once fired factory brass doesnt hit the blades in the cutter. I still toss them in the trim bucket and havent noticed a difference when plinking.

When testing new loads i do like the brass longer and using the same headstamp, but with pistol that doesnt matter much.

 

[Saltwater60]

Why not. Ju

Really?
If you want i can shoot one of the customer service guys over there who i order all my parts through an email to see what he says.

I dont think i would ever realistically get a conversion kit, for the cost and hassle getting the caliber added to my permit along with the $40 magazines I would be better off just buying a new gun

Sure why not just to satisfy my curiosity. Maybe it needs to be shipped to an Ffl. I also asked a local gun store and they told me it was law enforcement only, but I'm pretty sure the guy dos not know what he was talking about.