CMMG Mk47 DISSENT 7.62x39

[GOYABEAN]

 

[Robin]

I can tell jus by looking, the AR type has much more manageable recoil. Seems like a nice rifle though.
Robin

 

[Podmonkey]

7.62x39 has lost all relevance with the disaperance of cheap Russian ammo.

 

[Robin]

I agree Pod, but I stocked up years ago and even reload it.
Robin

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

7.62x39 has lost all relevance with the disaperance of cheap Russian ammo.

It's simply on par with 556 now and is still the most prolific caliber in the world. You could always go to 300 BLK which is inferior and more than double the cost.

 

[That_FNG]

It's simply on par with 556 now and is still the most prolific caliber in the world. You could always go to 300 BLK which is inferior and more than double the cost.

I would not say that 300 blk is inferior. Different rounds with different purposes. For a 8-10” barrel firearm 300 blackout makes more sense. 7.62x39 loses too much with short barrels. In the context of a short barrel firearm in tight or close quarters environment the 300 blackout is more suitable.

 

[kev74]

That thing looks assaulty.

 

[Bustedknees]

7.62x39 has lost all relevance with the disaperance of cheap Russian ammo.

But isn't it made in every other country too? Like China..Biden loves China..

 

[RooftopKorean]

Looks like a SCAR, an AR, and AK had a three-way.

 

[Podmonkey]

It's simply on par with 556 now and is still the most prolific caliber in the world. You could always go to 300 BLK which is inferior and more than double the cost.

The only reason to go with 7.62x39 was for the cheapness. Otherwise 5.56 has it all over the Russian caliber simply due to load variety. With 7.62x39 you are pretty much restricted to FMJ bullets with dodgy consistency. 5.56 you have "cheap" FMJ, Match ammo, JSP hunting/defensive ammo and in countless variations thereof. A 30% advantage in muzzle energy doesn't do much for you if the projectiles don't do anything with the extra horsepower.
I suppose Hornady did offer a JSP load in the caliber but supply was always spotty.
I should have bought a 53' trailer load of 5.45x39 surplus when it was going for 7 cents a round

 

[FRANKIE]

Actually Winchester, Prvi Partizan, and Federal all made soft points and HP’s that was good ammunition and the Winchester’s were readily available on most every shelf where ammo was sold of course before all the bullshit. I remember slight variations in head spacing when using domestic brass as opposed to Russian steel cased. You know the SAAMI vs CIP slight chamber difference thing. Aside from the m43 stuff, that 7n6 (5.45x39) stuff was really a lot of fun especially at those prices. Very corrosive though. Don’t remember it at 7 cents though. They’re getting a dollar a round at collector ammo in Hopewell junction. That’s $1080 a tin or $2160 a crate (can opener extra) lol
Who would have thought.

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

The only reason to go with 7.62x39 was for the cheapness. Otherwise 5.56 has it all over the Russian caliber simply due to load variety. With 7.62x39 you are pretty much restricted to FMJ bullets with dodgy consistency. 5.56 you have "cheap" FMJ, Match ammo, JSP hunting/defensive ammo and in countless variations thereof. A 30% advantage in muzzle energy doesn't do much for you if the projectiles don't do anything with the extra horsepower.
I suppose Hornady did offer a JSP load in the caliber but supply was always spotty.
I should have bought a 53' trailer load of 5.45x39 surplus when it was going for 7 cents a round

Actually Winchester, Prvi Partizan, and Federal all made soft points and HP’s that was good ammunition and the Winchester’s were readily available on most every shelf where ammo was sold of course before all the bullshit. I remember slight variations in head spacing when using domestic brass as opposed to Russian steel cased. You know the SAAMI vs CIP slight chamber difference thing. Aside from the m43 stuff, that 7n6 (5.45x39) stuff was really a lot of fun especially at those prices. Very corrosive though. Don’t remember it at 7 cents though. They’re getting a dollar a round at collector ammo in Hopewell junction. That’s $1080 a tin or $2160 a crate (can opener extra) lol
Who would have thought.

Forget even the projectiles that are made specifically for 7.62x39. What some forget and most don't even know is that you can load x39 with 308 projectiles. And it works just fine. So now your projectile selection is just as massive as with 300 BLK. If you think the Barnes TAC-TX (black tip) is good out of the BLK, imagine it out of the x39. If you reload there is no such thing as being limited to FMJ.

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

I would not say that 300 blk is inferior. Different rounds with different purposes. For a 8-10” barrel firearm 300 blackout makes more sense. 7.62x39 loses too much with short barrels. In the context of a short barrel firearm in tight or close quarters environment the 300 blackout is more suitable.

I saw your comment after Podmonkey's but the same applies. An apples to apples comparison (same projectile and barrel length) x39 will always win. This is because of case capacity. The AK does the same exact thing when shortening the barrel. That is, it loses little velocity as it gets shorter. Where BLK shines is suppressed. Although, I've loaded up sub sonic rounds for my AKs and to my ear the AK is actually quieter. Go figure. We could always ask @meketrefe what he thinks.

 

[Robin]

I made up a 7.62x39 when the Russian stuff was still cheap. I got a bunch of steel cased JHP's, I was impressed with the packaging, I was impressed with the quality from just my visual inspection, I was really impressed at the range with consistent sub MOA groups. Everyone told me it was junk, dirty as hell, but my findings are just the opposite, good quality clean burning ammo at a decent price, at the time cheaper than .556, and more than paid for the upper in my savings.
Robin

 

[Podmonkey]

Actually Winchester, Prvi Partizan, and Federal all made soft points and HP’s that was good ammunition and the Winchester’s were readily available on most every shelf where ammo was sold of course before all the bullshit. I remember slight variations in head spacing when using domestic brass as opposed to Russian steel cased. You know the SAAMI vs CIP slight chamber difference thing. Aside from the m43 stuff, that 7n6 (5.45x39) stuff was really a lot of fun especially at those prices. Very corrosive though. Don’t remember it at 7 cents though. They’re getting a dollar a round at collector ammo in Hopewell junction. That’s $1080 a tin or $2160 a crate (can opener extra) lol
Who would have thought.

Forget even the projectiles that are made specifically for 7.62x39. What some forget and most don't even know is that you can load x39 with 308 projectiles. And it works just fine. So now your projectile selection is just as massive as with 300 BLK. If you think the Barnes TAC-TX (black tip) is good out of the BLK, imagine it out of the x39. If you reload there is no such thing as being limited to FMJ.

It's been my understanding that most 7.62x39 JSP loads exhibit mediocre expansion. Possibly perhaps due to using .308 bullets?

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

It's been my understanding that most 7.62x39 JSP loads exhibit mediocre expansion. Possibly perhaps due to using .308 bullets?

Doubtful it's because of it being 308. Probably just that they are crappy construction bullets(.310). You can find videos online of good and bad.

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

 

[Robin]

Based on the video, I'm going to pull a Wolf HP and see if it is a hollow base. I'm not sure a hollow base, hollow point could cause a catastrophic failure such as the narrator describes so I'll have to do a web search on the subject if it is indeed HB/HP.
thanks for the vid Gun_slinger.
Robin