'Common sense' gun safety legislation unveiled in Pittsburgh includes assault weapons ban

[livingston]

'Common sense' gun safety legislation unveiled in Pittsburgh includes assault weapons ban
PITTSBURGH —

Mayor Bill Peduto and Gov. Tom Wolf, joined by members of City Council and the state Legislature, said they will work to pass what they call "common sense gun legislation" for Pittsburgh.

The proposals announced Friday come in the wake of the Tree of Life Synagogue shootings and on the anniversary of the Sandy Hook shootings.



Peduto said it's clear that more needs to be done on gun issues on the local level.

"The only answer we've gotten from Washington is, 'Nothing can be done, there's nothing that can be done.' That is not an answer. There are solutions that can be done," Peduto said at a news conference attended by gun safety advocates and supporters. "What has stalled in Washington doesn't necessarily mean that we can't make it happen at a local level."
Three bills will be introduced in City Council:

• A ban on assault weapons within Pittsburgh. (Read the legislation)
• A ban on accessories, ammunition, and weapon modifications often used in mass shootings. (Read the legislation)
• Adoption of "extreme risk protection orders" that would let courts temporarily prohibit someone from having guns if law enforcement or immediate family show the person poses a "significant danger." (Read the legislation)
• 'Common sense' gun safety legislation to be introduced in Pittsburgh

 

[Jmac00]

Im more worried about these "extreme risk protection orders" ~~~ anyone can say you're a gun nut, which give the government a reason to steal your private property WITHOUT DUE PROCESS

 

[livingston]

A ban on accessories, ammunition, and weapon modifications often used in mass shootings

Some mass shootings have occurred just using handguns .... This (language ) just puts in place the next step in total disarmament

 

[GOYABEAN]

 

[livingston]

Pittsburgh gun safety proposal would ban semiautomatic rifles

 

[Saltwater60]

What does the semi automatic modifications mean? I painted the sights on my ruger lcpII does that make me a felon now?

 

[S&W Fan]

This shit is gonna spread like wildfire across the country after the 1st of the year. Congress along with most metropolitan areas are gonna go batshit crazy with bill after bill. If this country’s gun owners don’t band together soon we’re all in Deep shit, with toothpicks for paddles.

 

[holdover]

The fact that a mayor or governor can make , or interpret constitutional law is pretty big sign that the United States as we knew it no longer exists.

 

[Mr. terzmo]

looks like a NY shitty spinoff...get a carry permit in Buffalo NY but you can't carry in NY shitty

 

[Blimey]

'Common sense' gun safety legislation unveiled in Pittsburgh includes assault weapons ban
PITTSBURGH —

Mayor Bill Peduto and Gov. Tom Wolf, joined by members of City Council and the state Legislature, said they will work to pass what they call "common sense gun legislation" for Pittsburgh.

The proposals announced Friday come in the wake of the Tree of Life Synagogue shootings and on the anniversary of the Sandy Hook shootings.



Peduto said it's clear that more needs to be done on gun issues on the local level.

"The only answer we've gotten from Washington is, 'Nothing can be done, there's nothing that can be done.' That is not an answer. There are solutions that can be done," Peduto said at a news conference attended by gun safety advocates and supporters. "What has stalled in Washington doesn't necessarily mean that we can't make it happen at a local level."
Three bills will be introduced in City Council:

• A ban on assault weapons within Pittsburgh. (Read the legislation)
• A ban on accessories, ammunition, and weapon modifications often used in mass shootings. (Read the legislation)
• Adoption of "extreme risk protection orders" that would let courts temporarily prohibit someone from having guns if law enforcement or immediate family show the person poses a "significant danger." (Read the legislation)
• 'Common sense' gun safety legislation to be introduced in Pittsburgh

I'm genuinely surprised how impotent some of this legislation is.

Their "ban" is exactly the same as New York's. Get a thordsen stock and you're good to go.

Interestingly they want to ban .50 BMG. This seems utterly pointless, as we all know. Those damn things are like $5/round and AFAIK literally nobody has ever been killed by one during a crime. Has it even ever happened once in the CONUS?

 

[Podmonkey]

Civil War and the annihilation of all liberals is the only thing that will halt this disease.

 

[Catskillkid]

I'm genuinely surprised how impotent some of this legislation is.

Their "ban" is exactly the same as New York's. Get a thordsen stock and you're good to go.

Interestingly they want to ban .50 BMG. This seems utterly pointless, as we all know. Those damn things are like $5/round and AFAIK literally nobody has ever been killed by one during a crime. Has it even ever happened once in the CONUS?

I also get a kick out the .50 cal bans? How many school or mass shootings have occurred with them? I'm 99.9% certain exactly zero.

 

[Shadow2]

I want it to spread like a virus and piss off all right federal judges.

This shit is gonna spread like wildfire across the country after the 1st of the year. Congress along with most metropolitan areas are gonna go batshit crazy with bill after bill. If this country’s gun owners don’t band together soon we’re all in Deep shit, with toothpicks for paddles.

 

[Acer-m14]

Mayor Bill Peduto and Gov. Tom Wolf, joined by members of City Council and the state Legislature have no common sense ... but they do need a lot of that smacked into them ..

 

[livingston]

Stealing Rights and Property in Steel City? Pittsburgh Reportedly Considering Sweeping Gun Control
The NRA has received copies of what are reported to be draft ordinances being considered by the Pittsburgh City Council to enact sweeping gun control measures within the city.

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It appears that Mayor Bill Peduto’s office is sending the drafts to mayors of other large cities, encouraging them to follow suit.

Yet if the drafts were enacted as written, the resulting ordinances would infringe fundamental rights, violate state law, and stick municipal taxpayers with hefty legal fees for the inevitable court challenges the new laws would provoke.

To the extent the Pittsburgh Mayor’s Office may be encouraging its counterparts to follow suit in other states with strong firearm preemption laws, it would be soliciting similar unlawful acts on their parts as well.

The documents received by the NRA contain three draft municipal ordinances to be added by the Council of the City of Pittsburgh to the local Code of Ordinances. It’s unclear whether all three are meant to be introduced simultaneously, as two of them overlap substantially.

One is an “assault weapon” ban that superficially appears to have been modeled on the failed federal ban in effect from 1994 to 2004. It would ban select-fire machine guns, an array of named semiautomatic firearms, as well as semiautomatic rifles and pistols that have two or more of various specified features.

Yet also prohibited would be any firearm that has “the ability to accept” a magazine with a capacity in excess of 10 rounds. This would prohibit essentially all semiautomatic and many manually-loaded firearms, except for specific exemptions that apply to .22 caliber and lever action firearms with tubular magazines.

The ordinance would become effective 60 days after enactment and would grandfather in those who lawfully owned the newly-banned guns before the law’s effective date.

A separate draft proposes to ban a large array of semiautomatic firearms, “semiautomatic modifications” that “accelerate the rate of fire” of a semiautomatic firearm, “large capacity” magazines (i.e., those capable of holding more than 10 rounds), and various types of ammunition.

This ordinance specifically targets centerfire, semiautomatic firearms that have any one of various named features, most of which are common on commercially available guns, or any semiautomatic rifle with an overall length of less than 30”. Also included would be semiautomatic shotguns configured in common ways.

The ordinance would additionally prohibit various types of ammunition specified by design or caliber. These would include a wide array of non-lead bullets, .50 BMG rifle ammunition, and tracer rounds, among other things.

Firearms, as well as air guns, that have prohibited modifications would also be banned. These include guns equipped with specifically named accessories – such as “bump stock,” “binary triggers,” and “trigger cranks” – and anything else the city considers to “accelerate the rate of fire” of the gun.
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[livingston]

Mayor Peduto wants mayors across the nation to join local gun legislation fight




Mayor Bill Peduto contacted dozens of mayors across the nation this week, asking them to join Pittsburgh in introducing local gun legislation possibly as soon as Friday — and which will most likely be challenged in court.

Mr. Peduto wrote the letter to approximately 60 mayors just six weeks after a gunman killed 11 worshipers in the Tree of Life synagogue in Squirrel Hill and days before the sixth anniversary of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting, in which 20 children and six adults were killed.

“I am writing you today because this is not the America anybody wants, where schools put children through active shooter training, our parents and grandparents can't safely enter houses of worship, and where people are killed in broad daylight because of their race, gender, religion or identity,” an email sent Monday read.

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“It is time to come together again to take on the gun manufacturing lobbyists, and to increase our commitment at a local level to challenge the system of laws that encourage massacres and take the lives of our friends and family every single day in the United States of America,” it continued.
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[livingston]

From the comments section...
G Packard Willoughby 1 week ago

Pennsylvania instituted state pre-emption of gun laws about eighty years ago to keep cities and towns from creating a patchwork of gun laws that would be impossible for the average citizen to understand or comply with. As I've said before, about 0.02% of the AR15s out there are used for bad things. The gun isn't the problem. Politicians using fear to control the populace is the problem. Fear of crime so we need a militarized police. Be afraid but don't do anything yourself because we have the militarized police. That's until you need them and then they say, "You're own your own." If your neighbor is doing something, anything, call the authorities so they can do their best to ruin his life before it is discovered that he's building a BBQ grill.

 

[livingston]

Ban the .50 cal but the 338 Lapua... you are good to go ... How many .50 cal rifles would there be in that city that are not in the hands of the police ? A few dozen or so... It is not like everyone has a 1000M practice range within an hours drive of their home ....

 

[livingston]

I want it to spread like a virus and piss off all right federal judges.

Not the Obama appointed ones

 

[Jmac00]

all this money spent on trying to control law abiding citizens, and not one dime for mental health initiatives.

Well done. well played you incompetent political hacks. When all the guns are gone, and violent crimes skyrockets, please explain to all the grieving parents how your "common sense" gun laws protected them

 

[Catskillkid]

all this money spent on trying to control law abiding citizens, and not one dime for mental health initiatives.

Well done. well played you incompetent political hacks. When all the guns are gone, and violent crimes skyrockets, please explain to all the grieving parents how your "common sense" gun laws protected them

They'll just say we need more gun control then. Or knife control like in England.

 

[Saltwater60]

Most states can’t do this. There are only 13 states where cities and counties can make up thier own gun control legislation. Nys is one of them. Yeah. It’s called preemptive laws. They should not be allowed under any circumstances. My county just passed a law where it illegal to smoke with a kid in the car. Do I agree it’s a bad idea yeah sure, but 1.5 mile north of me it’s legal. What now are we supposed to read all county laws while traveling.

Preemption of Local Laws | Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence

 

[Grimscale]

How many school or mass shootings have occurred with them?

Contrary to the political double-speech these assholes exhibit, this has nothing to do with school or mass shootings.
Politicians want the .50 banned because it can shoot through their "bullet proof" limos, office windows and walls, brick buildings, etc. They do not feel safe knowing that the ultimate solution to their tyranny is in the hands of people they do not control, and who train more regularly than the politician's jack-booted thugs.

This is why these laws, when submitted as a bill, NEED to have evidence backing their purpose. Let's see these lying sacks of pond scum admit that there has NEVER been a school or mass shooting with a .50.

 

[Jmac00]

Contrary to the political double-speech these assholes exhibit, this has nothing to do with school or mass shootings.
Politicians want the .50 banned because it can shoot through their "bullet proof" limos, office windows and walls, brick buildings, etc. They do not feel safe knowing that the ultimate solution to their tyranny is in the hands of people they do not control, and who train more regularly than the politician's jack-booted thugs.

This is why these laws, when submitted as a bill, NEED to have evidence backing their purpose. Let's see these lying sacks of pond scum admit that there has NEVER been a school or mass shooting with a .50.

are they going exempt the CVA 50cal muzzleloader, or are they going ot put this company out of business

 

[Acer-m14]

are they going exempt the CVA 50cal muzzleloader, or are they going ot put this company out of business

hell just get a canon while you can .. aim small ... miss small ..

 

[Tinman]

Still not one person has said how they are going to take the guns from the criminals!

 

[Jsmegs77]

Still not one person has said how they are going to take the guns from the criminals!

They aren’t. It’s the otherwise law abiding citizens who are being targeted. The obvious takeaway here is that a life of crime actually maintains more rights.


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