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Uzi said:
I don't agree with your assessment largely due to the fact that it seems mostly based on conjecture alone, and I'll leave it at that. In terms of this new product, I'm not arguing anything. It's just nothing new in design, and I don't see an advantage to adding more steps, parts and pieces only to handload again. That and I can also foresee a potential of binding rounds inside the magazine since there is no sprung tension until the follower is set forward. My initial response was, kind of like, "huh? ok", and so I'm trying to find something that would convince me it's innovative or better in some way.
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You do have a point about possible binding if loaded in that manner

But if somehow it doesn't bind, or you choose not to use it that way, it's just a regular magazine with more options. You can load it like you normally do any fixed magazine and still have the ability to easily drop the rounds if you want to unload without having to chamber and eject every single round while putting a dimple in the primer.

Plus the rifle itself is not altered in any way. No bullet button, no AR Maglock / MR2, no epoxy, no T-Nut........ Nothing. The standard magazine release is retained.
 
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How about this. Fixed mag with missing floor plate, make a larger diameter mag that will "sleeve" over existing mag with Boooolets.. it would of course have to have a some sort of mag release when attached to the pinned mag. Wish I could design/make one.
 
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Dinkus the Stinkus said:
The ma drops the bolt as you pull it out. It's got a little piece of plastic that allows the bolt to drop where the bfd doesn't.
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Be honest with ya,,,,you are more than likely right. My memory is so bad nowadays,,,havent used it since last summer. Just dont remember any bolt pressure,,,,though I do remember it loading a round when finished lol,,,,,so now I see what you mean :)
 
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Just got a response to my query. The existing magazine cannot be modified for 6.8, they have no plans to make them for the 6.8. Ah well, second in popularity to the .223, there are a lot of them out there, their loss.
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Willjr75 said:
You do have a point about possible binding if loaded in that manner

But if it somehow it doesn't bind, or you choose not to use it that way, it's just a regular magazine with more options. You can load it like you normally do any fixed magazine and still have the ability to easily drop the rounds if you want to unload without having to chamber and eject every single round while putting a dimple in the primer.

Plus the rifle itself is not altered in any way. No bullet button, no AR Maglock / MR2, no epoxy, no T-Nut........ Nothing. The standard magazine release is retained.
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I'm not trying to bring this product down or anything like that firstly, but...

I'm wondering why I need to pop out all of the rounds in the first place, but if I didn't want to rack the bolt back and do it that way for some odd reason that I can't think of, The follower and retaining plate drops off very easily when the bolt is held back on my hex magazines. I did that numerous times when I was breaking in the bolt on one of my rifles when the bolt wasn't going home which resulted in double feeds. I can also break the receivers apart and pop them out manually if it was necessary. In terms of the bullet button in NY, it's not legal, the AR mag lock and MR2, also not legal so those can be ignored. The T-nut is the poor mans way to save $16. The magazine locks through which most people are using to fix a magazine in NY are literally exactly the same thing as any magazine release except the button side which two that I know about could still function as a magazine release without removing the button or release side. The removal and installation of these is about as simple as anything can get, so that's not it. I'm not sure what the discussion was about anymore?
 
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Uzi said:
I'm not trying to bring this product down or anything like that firstly, but...

I'm wondering why I need to pop out all of the rounds in the first place, but if I didn't want to rack the bolt back and do it that way for some odd reason that I can't think of, The follower and retaining plate drops off very easily when the bolt is held back on my hex magazines. I did that numerous times when I was breaking in the bolt on one of my rifles when the bolt wasn't going home which resulted in double feeds. I can also break the receivers apart and pop them out manually if it was necessary. In terms of the bullet button in NY, it's not legal, the AR mag lock and MR2, also not legal so those can be ignored. The T-nut is the poor mans way to save $16. The magazine locks through which most people are using to fix a magazine in NY are literally exactly the same thing as any magazine release except the button side which two that I know about could still function as a magazine release without removing the button or release side. The removal and installation of these is about as simple as anything can get, so that's not it. I'm not sure what the discussion was about anymore?
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It's about not having to remove an end plate, spring, and follower to unload or to clear a jam. That's it. Your whole rifle and magazine stays together without parts all over the place. It also keeps a standard magazine release that while easy to swap out, not needing to. It's a welcome alternative that addresses some fixed mag rifle configurations issues with just one magazine and a screw.
 
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Willjr75 said:
It's about not having to remove an end plate, spring, and follower to unload or to clear a jam. That's it. Your whole rifle and magazine stays together without parts all over the place. It also keeps a standard magazine release that while easy to swap out, not needing to. It's a welcome alternative that addresses some fixed mag rifle configurations issues with just one magazine and a screw.
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Sure, if you're needing to unload a loaded magazine often, I guess it's a little more convenient if you're in a rush for some reason to unload a magazine lol.

At the end of the day, a fixed magazine rifle has less moving parts to fail and uses proven magazines that the user can choose from. I like simplicity in guns myself.
 
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I got a reply too. The magazine bottom comes off but if you stick anything in there to make it 5rnds instead of 10 it wont work right. So basically its a 10rnd mag only,,,cant be used for hunting.
 
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JamieZ said:
I got a reply too. The magazine bottom comes off but if you stick anything in there to make it 5rnds instead of 10 it wont work right. So basically its a 10rnd mag only,,,cant be used for hunting.
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Its a straight stack magazine, seems like five wooden dowel's of the same diameter would work, no different than a duck plug in a shotgun. Or even spent rounds or snap caps.
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96coal449 said:
The oddest thing I find is how much we debate over complying to an unconstitutional ACT.
Just strikes me how odd it really is. Not busting balls .... I myself am building a compliant M1A.
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We debate about everything here. Especially Uzi when it comes to fixed mags.
 
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Robin said:
Its a straight stack magazine, seems like five wooden dowel's of the same diameter would work, no different than a duck plug in a shotgun. Or even spent rounds or snap caps.
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Obviously that would work but doesnt sound legal to me. Duck plugs you have to take the gun apart to remove it. At least with my 870 you do.
 
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dsdmmat said:
Not necessarily double feeds are often the result from a failure to extract or eject. The cause could be a broken extractor or ejector, sometimes the problem is the magazine feed lips are deformed.
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Copy. There is no such thing as a firearm that doesn't jam. Think of all the single stack firearms that already exist.
 
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Bullet Guy said:
@GUNSICK is a lazy cunt that never goes shooting (unless he is using someone elses guns ans Ammo).

He is useless. Better to buy uour own and gwt back to us.
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GUNSICK said:
This guy steals my brass before it hits the ground.
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Yeesh, the sexual tension around here... would you two bang (haha, get it? bang? on a gun forum?) already and get it over with?
 
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ended up ordering one already lol! should get it by sat. and try it next weekend at the range. btw do we still need to epoxy the screws? to remove the "capacity to remove magazines" thing
 
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