Conspiracy

[DoD1776]

To tired to find the suggestion spot so I gave up looking. But with all of these thoughts and conspiracies going around we should have a conspiracy sub forum or something. @NYGuns @HEX @NirvanaFan
Make it so if you’re going to post a conspiracy it needs to be backed up with proof or something logical. Just my thought though

 

[HEX]

I don't think that would work, but I can understand the frustration.

 

[DoD1776]

I don't think that would work, but I can understand the frustration.

Yeah there’s just but a lot of conspiracies going around I’ve noticed on the forums since Las Vegas so thought we would give it a shot

 

[Defilade]

Everything is a conspiracy until proven otherwise. The Government has no credibility.

 

[Bananabandit]

I saw MJ walk into a daycare last week

 

[Doc8404]

I saw MJ walk into a daycare last week

Did you jump out of the closet and say hello?

 

[Bananabandit]

Did you jump out of the closet and say hello?

I invited him in for cookies.

 

[SomeSoldier]

On the oath keeper forum they have a scuttlebutt sub forum so anything unverified goes there, that way people know its rumor or guess work.

 

[Doc8404]

That’s 80% of this site.

 

[Bananabandit]

That’s 80% of this site.

More like 112%
But 80% is acceptable

 

[togmaster]

I think @Dayten and @HEX are up to something.

 

[GUNSICK]

I saw MJ walk into a daycare last week

 

[holdover]

Make it so if you’re going to post a conspiracy it needs to be backed up with proof or something logical. Just my thought though

A conspiracy is nothing more than questioning what we are told. It stems from a lack of credibility from an institution that has a record of lying to the public and from a lack of transparency. There are different kinds of conspiracy's Like the Russian conspiracy, or gulf of Tonkin incident which lead to massive buildup of troops in Vietnam which was later proven to be a complete fabrication to get the US into the Vietnam war. The gulf of Tonkin incident never happened, where 58,000 Americans died in a war we never finished because of it. You have conspiracy's like fast and furious , where the FBI were attempting to make it look as if the cartels in Mexico were being armed from gun shops near the Mexican border in order to restrict sales in states like Texas Arizona New Mexico .Then you have the Hillary Clinton conspiracy's where she was taking money through the Clinton foundation from foreign governments, down to police officers destroying evidence of their own wrong doing . Organized crime is a conspiracy. Corruption in politics is a conspiracy. Criminals have a vested interest in keeping their crimes a secret.

Then there's the Area 51 , bigfoot , UFO , lizard men conspiracy's . These conspiracy's discredit anyone who questions what they are told. So If I question the facts in the Las Vegas shooting, Im discredited off the bat as a conspiracy theorist, in the same group of those who believe in the lizard man , citys on the moon conspiracy theorists. The ideas are outwardly dismissed as nonsense. Even though there is strong evidence that the shooter was running guns I have no smoking gun proof. Even though I can prove that we were not told the truth about the sandy hook shooting, I cannot prove what happened.

I can prove to you that the media lies distorts spins and even creates false news stories, But I cannot prove the reason why or who finances that.

If you are aware that intelligence services have reporters on their staff , that things like operation mockingbird have been used against the public , that the ban on propaganda was lifted years ago , that the News agency's have lied and presented false stories to the public . Then you have grounds to legitimately question what your told. Were not talking about alien abductions here, were talking about what Bill Clinton said to secretary Rice on the tarmac.

 

[Celt]

A conspiracy is nothing more than questioning what we are told. It stems from a lack of credibility from an institution that has a record of lying to the public and from a lack of transparency. There are different kinds of conspiracy's Like the Russian conspiracy, or gulf of Tonkin incident which lead to massive buildup of troops in Vietnam which was later proven to be a complete fabrication to get the US into the Vietnam war. The gulf of Tonkin incident never happened, where 58,000 Americans died in a war we never finished because of it. You have conspiracy's like fast and furious , where the FBI were attempting to make it look as if the cartels in Mexico were being armed from gun shops near the Mexican border in order to restrict sales in states like Texas Arizona New Mexico .Then you have the Hillary Clinton conspiracy's where she was taking money through the Clinton foundation from foreign governments, down to police officers destroying evidence of their own wrong doing . Organized crime is a conspiracy. Corruption in politics is a conspiracy. Criminals have a vested interest in keeping their crimes a secret.

Then there's the Area 51 , bigfoot , UFO , lizard men conspiracy's . These conspiracy's discredit anyone who questions what they are told. So If I question the facts in the Las Vegas shooting, Im discredited off the bat as a conspiracy theorist, in the same group of those who believe in the lizard man , citys on the moon conspiracy theorists. The ideas are outwardly dismissed as nonsense. Even though there is strong evidence that the shooter was running guns I have no smoking gun proof. Even though I can prove that we were not told the truth about the sandy hook shooting, I cannot prove what happened.

I can prove to you that the media lies distorts spins and even creates false news stories, But I cannot prove the reason why or who finances that.

If you are aware that intelligence services have reporters on their staff , that things like operation mockingbird have been used against the public , that the ban on propaganda was lifted years ago , that the News agency's have lied and presented false stories to the public . Then you have grounds to legitimately question what your told. Were not talking about alien abductions here, were talking about what Bill Clinton said to secretary Rice on the tarmac.

Very well said. We're not talking about ridiculous far fetched conspiracies here (typically). It's about questioning a government that has giving us a reason to question them. Now of course once in awhile something off the wall comes up as a conspiracy but in this day and age I think it's better that people question everything than question nothing.

 

[Phauxtoe]

I invited him in for cookies.

I think it was his sister well any of her sisters they all look alike ...




Don’t jump to conclusions I mean because they all have the same plastic surgeon

 

[GOPerfect]

So many see or hear the word conspiracy and they run away. So many think of it as a bad word. It is only the intelligent asking questions. Most of us that question are not trying to make a mountain or of a mole hill, we just want answers to our questions in regards to an event.

 

[DoD1776]

I think @Dayten and @HEX are up to something.

Indubitably

 

[dwa12479]

Unfortunately "conspiracy theory" these days has become synonymous to many with people like Alex Jones, that are a bit, um.. intense. If you don't accept everything and anything that you're fed by the media without question, then you must be a crazy nut job conspiracy theorist.

For me, it's thrown around so much like "racist" and "bigot" that it's starting to lose its meaning. There's nothing wrong with asking legit questions and raising concerns when things don't add up. Occums Razor needs to be kept on hand for regular use though, lest you wander down the rabbit hole a little too far.

 

[Celt]

The .gov uses the term "conspiracy theorist" to discredit someone that is on to them.

 

[Robin]

Hah, I knew it!
Robin

 

[redtail]

#Q_uestionEverything


Indeed.

 

[SteyrAug]

The latest tin foil hat crazy I read (on another gunsite) is that the FL school shooting was a false flag operation set up by Hillary to ensure more gun laws.

All the crazies are not Dimmicraps !

 

[Marine Cpl]

This one was real unlike the Sandy Hook one.

 

[Darth]

There is a big difference between being open minded and being so open minded that your brain falls out.

 

[spat]

So many see or hear the word conspiracy and they run away. So many think of it as a bad word. It is only the intelligent asking questions. Most of us that question are not trying to make a mountain or of a mole hill, we just want answers to our questions in regards to an event.

People should research how many "conspiracy theories" have in fact been proven true over the years.

The crap we now *know* the CIA was up to in the 60s and 70s should scare people shitless.

Imagine what they are up to today that nobody even knows about.

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

Make it so if you’re going to post a conspiracy it needs to be backed up with proof or something logical. Just my thought though

The problem is that people do think they have evidence but it's just wild speculation. I think the vegas thread shows this best. People weren't just asking questions but making bold assertions. It was a government cover up complete with covert black ops wet work, a second then third then fourth and so on shooters, a terrorist plot, gun running, frame job, doctored photos, stolen evidence and so on. Mind you there was no "proof" of all this but wild assertions made by people with extremely limited knowledge of everything that happened that night. In their minds though they have solid evidence. I wouldn't even waste my time going on a sub forum like that except maybe to troll.

 

[redtail]

Lets go to the video tape ; oh wait...

 

[holdover]

Then there is the coincidence theorist's. Everything that happens is by sheer coincidence, Corruption, bribes, self interest, backroom deals manufactured news stories , desire for power, staged events , do not really happen or we would know all about it.

They tend to take the news as factual , indisputable sources of information while dismissing police and eyewitness accounts as unbelievable.

They tend to believe things like ISIS is so powerful that the west just doesn't have the manpower to defeat these super men .
Police don't lie.
politicians are not influenced by lobbyists
That the military arms contractors don't depend on war to make a profit.
Corporation s give large sums of money to politicians without asking anything in return
Cannot differentiate between fact , evidence or opinions
Is not aware that the history of government from ancient times to present were full of corruption
Is not aware that people can be manipulated through information
Is not aware that government has used false stories to gain support for their own position while suppressing stories that don't.
Has no awareness of how intelligence agencies operate, or how they are used.
Has no understanding of behavior modification through information or propaganda
Is not aware that the official government 911 story of 19 hijackers from the Mideast that was planned for years to attack NYC was in fact a conspiracy

VS

the conspiracy theorist who believe that powerful people that have a lot of influence actually use that power to maintain or grow that influence.
Actually use evidence to support their ideas ,
Almost always lacks the information needed to prove his theory because the information is classified .
Supports the idea that JFK was not killed by a single madman and has a tremendous amount of information supporting his Idea, but lacks the classified information to prove it.
Is completely aware that the media has become a branch of government , and has its agents working throughout it.
That information is controlled .

 

[Marine Cpl]

The problem is that people do think they have evidence but it's just wild speculation. I think the vegas thread shows this best. People weren't just asking questions but making bold assertions. It was a government cover up complete with covert black ops wet work, a second then third then fourth and so on shooters, a terrorist plot, gun running, frame job, doctored photos, stolen evidence and so on. Mind you there was no "proof" of all this but wild assertions made by people with extremely limited knowledge of everything that happened that night. In their minds though they have solid evidence. I wouldn't even waste my time going on a sub forum like that except maybe to troll.

Except there was.

 

[redtail]

Shamlessly stealing this.

-The Swamp is being drained:

-over 1000 CEOs stepping down (is this a normal occurrence?)

-over 50 congressman resigning or not seeking reelection (is this what politicians routinely do?)

-over 13K sealed federal indictments have been issued by DOJ (normal is approx. 1000)

-over 100 Hollywood and media elites exposed for sexual misconduct

-Mass round up of powerful elite in Saudi Arabia in major anti-corruption purge (is this normal?)

-Israeli PM Netanyahu is being charged with corruption (coincidence?)

-Trump signed an EO seizing assets worldwide. The list of corrupt actors is at 1108 pages.

-Crackdown on human trafficking. Thousands of children have been rescued worldwide

-Massive roundup of gangmembers in major effort to stamp out MS-13

-ISIS is practically defeated

-Mass corruption within FBI/DOJ has been revealed to the public

-The Mainstream Media has been exposed as fake news

-The veil has been lifted on the CIA’s MKultra program and Op Mockingbird

-The boards are under constant high-level attack. Why all this effort to take down if it’s all just a hoax or LARP?

-Constant trolling and shilling to discredit and massive censorship on social media. Why would all this effort be made if it was merely misinformation? All this does is simply validates it. You don’t take flak unless you’re over the target!

These are truly historical times. The world is awakening. Nothing has ever been more real.