Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I agree. Only problem areas should been shut down. There is no reason why Utah, Montana, or upstate New York should be shut down. Everything should have remained open with PPE usage as a precaution.
Corona is a major over-reaction designed by the Democrats as a last-ditch effort to harm President Trump
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And now all is lost. We are not going to get back what we have lost. Ever!!! For what?
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Correct. In the belly of the beast I know what’s happening. But to think that because you aren’t in the belly of the beast you have nothing to worry about is foolish. This thing spreads fast if it gets there. The point of all these measures are for it not to get there. They are overreaching though and I agree. Stores should not have been shut down. Only safety precautions should have been rendered. Just the same as we didn’t shut everything down when only China was infected. We waited for it to get here rather then overreacting and shutting every thing down then.
ManrisFrack
6.5 Creedmoor
Oh it will definitely get worse everywhere when the restrictions are eased. A vaccine is the only way forward that doesn't come with a lot more suffering and death.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
As to the question why they overacted? Well, lots of reason. Political of course. And also for the ignorant who would refuse to take precautions and puff their chests out challenging others in stores to do something about it. So they used fire on an anthill rather than normal methods to help prevent the spread and minimize infection due to those ignorant chest puffers.
Because all it takes someone like me in the belly of the beast who doesn’t want the government to tell me to wear a mask to go to a non affected area and infect another chest puffer who will walk around home depot touching everything and infecting others causing others that are susceptible to complications getting it and overwhelming their hospitals.
Because all it takes someone like me in the belly of the beast who doesn’t want the government to tell me to wear a mask to go to a non affected area and infect another chest puffer who will walk around home depot touching everything and infecting others causing others that are susceptible to complications getting it and overwhelming their hospitals.
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spat
.950 JDJ
No, you are confusing what is good for an individual with what is good for society.
It is a very good idea for an individual to take precautions. It does no good for society.
Think of it this way, if you manage to avoid infected by "social distancing" that just means someone else needs to "take your place" in the herd immunity lottery.
spat
.950 JDJ
Your precautions probably prevented you from getting it. But if everyone in your office took them your odds of getting it would actually go up.
Think of it like this, if 90% of the people in your office were going to catch it before the herd immunity kicks in that # won't change, but the 10% who avoid it will be the most careful 10%. Your careless coworkers basically volunteered to take the hit so you could avoid it.
If they were even *more* careful than you, you would eventually get it instead of them.
People die for many things, alot more then this! Cancer rates I believe killed last year some 600,000 alone. Does the government look into why and shut it down? Cigarettes for example? Drunk driving deaths? .Gov hasn't shut down the bars or made it harder to access alchohol. But to destroy the economy and people's livelihoods like they are is testament to another agenda.
spat
.950 JDJ
More people died from the flu in 2017 than died from this so far.
If you look at your lifetime odds, you are 10x as likely to die from the flu as this.
ProgSpear
.338 Win Mag
FIFY.
spat
.950 JDJ
It's true, the only long term way to avoid dying from covid is to die from something else first.
masterswimmer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
And yet in my 60+ years on this beautiful blue rock I've never known even one fatality from the flu. However in the last two months I've known three people who've succumbed to the Chinese flu.
ProgSpear
.338 Win Mag
lol! why does that remind me of a Monty Python skit?
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Those numbers are BS. Nobody here on this forum has ever known anyone to die of the flu alone. Those are people that died of other causes that caught the flu on to what they had. The difference here with this Covid thing is that it’s killing people with no underlying conditions that would not die of the flu along with those that have underlying conditions.
My parents in their 80’s have caught the regular flu multiple times. This would probably kill them however or at the very least put them in an ICU.
The regular flu would not have killed almost a hundred of my fellow coworkers in a matter of month.
Hero Conductor Among 96 MTA Workers To Die From Coronavirus
MTA conductor Benjamin Shaeffer died from COVID-19 complications in Brooklyn's Maimonides Hospital, according to his union.
patch.com
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Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Apples and oranges. Those are slow deaths. And the drunk driving isn’t killing thousands daily.
I don't know of anybody that died of COVID alone.
Either way, Black Swan fallacy.
Are you saying nobody dies of the flu?
Sure it does.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Of the flu alone? Very rare. Almost nonexistent. That’s not the case with this Covid though. Like I said, “I know of 3 that have.” All between the ages of 40 and 55. None obese. 2 with a slight gut like me and one skinny indian dude. None had cancer or aids or COPD or anything out of the ordinary. All worked the train yards which is an active job that requires physical labor. One health nut was on an induced coma and on a ventilator. He’s out of the coma but still on the ventilator.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Okay. Whatever you say. Hospitals are packed to gills with thousands killed daily and being autopsied due to drunk drivers. Whatever you say. You are correct.
No sir, I had someone close to me die of the flu.
You just don't get it! Come here. Come to upstate. Buy a train ticket and come up here and see the flu and then tell me it's not a big deal!
(Get it?)
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Rararararar. The big difference here is that I would see nothing there. Here you will see this.
Woman slams de Blasio after relative’s body left at home for hours
“This is our city, and we’re being treated like s—t!” wailed Tami Treadwell, owner of Harlem Seafood Soul, claiming the family was told it would take at least 12 hours for someone to retrieve the b…
nypost.com
They haven't invented dead bodies upstate yet?Rararararar. The big difference here is that I would see nothing there. Here you will see this.
Woman slams de Blasio after relative’s body left at home for hours
“This is our city, and we’re being treated like s—t!” wailed Tami Treadwell, owner of Harlem Seafood Soul, claiming the family was told it would take at least 12 hours for someone to retrieve the b…
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Ahh. You are starting the BS joke deflection thing again that you like to do. Carry on.
Not exactly with covid either, matter of fact some Hospitals are giving nurses and doctors furloughs and on the hinges of closing.
byron
.308 Win
my daughter is a nurse supervisor at a hospital and says since this has started its been slower than usual people not coming in for every little thing
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Yep. In non affected areas. That means that it’s a hoax because Wayne county has little if not no cases.
Well any day you people in the city want to stop licking door knobs and Cuomos ass maybe the dictator will relax restrictions, but dont worry it wont be long and the city will squirm like a pig and say enough already and then comes the anarchy.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
That's a very smart, and informative post. Thank you.