Current State Election Audits of 2020

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Big media is already mischaracterizing Arizona election audit findings. you have to look elsewhere.

Bombshell: Arizona Election Results Audit Finds ‘Significant Discrepancies,’ Ballots Off By Up To 17.5%, Joe Biden ‘Likely Did Not Win’ | Tea Party

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Media hysteria means Arizona election audit may be on to something

While an uncertain public awaits results from the Arizona election audit, the immediate major media outcry, prematurely denouncing it, should be viewed as the audit's hitting a major media nerve. The media's reactio...
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Coupled with what has been uncovered about intelligence agencies, including, and mainly the FBI directly interfering with the election, it was fixed, no question. they weren't going to make the same mistakes twice like they did in letting it slip from Hitlerys' grubby hand's. How many others? How many are fixed. We are no better than some backwater third world republic in our deceit and corruption. There needs to be a total house cleaning while we still have a chance, slim as it might be!!!!!
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Arizona Senate Hearing on Results From Maricopa County Audit - 4:00pm EST Livestream Links - The Last Refuge

Today the Arizona Senate will release its long-awaited audit report of the 2020 election in Maricopa County, AZ. Senate President Karen Fann, and Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Warren Petersen, will receive the report on the Senate floor at 1:00pm local / 4:00pm EST, followed by a detailed...
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Blimey said:
*ssshhh* don’t tell them that the duplicate ballots favored Trump

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So, what you're saying is that if they don't secure the election by 2024 we should just stuff the shit out of the boxes for Trump ?

At this point I think the only way to guarantee a secure election is to make the Democrats afraid of fraud.

Even if they don't cast them, someone should leave pallets of Trump ballots in an abandoned truck somewhere to be found during early voting next time.
 
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spat said:
So, what you're saying is that if they don't secure the election by 2024 we should just stuff the shit out of the boxes for Trump ?

At this point I think the only way to guarantee a secure election is to make the Democrats afraid of fraud.

Even if they don't cast them, someone should leave pallets of Trump ballots in an abandoned truck somewhere to be found during early voting next time.
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Surely my position was made clear back in November.

I, in absolutely very clear and no uncertain terms, believe this is a fantasy, and the people who still think fraud was extensive enough to switch the winner of the election are delusional. This has all been vetted through dozens of lawsuits, which so predictably turned up nothing of significance.

I was vocal about this in November, starting two days after the election, and consistently about it when I constantly derided his legal team as a bunch negligent hacks (who are presently defending themselves in lawsuits), when I said the kraken redemption story was a fabrication, and at this point there is little left to say to these people but point and laugh. The same who mightily resisted any acknowledgment of the pre-election polls that said Trump would lose, who used lawn signs as their statistical analysis, were so shocked they bought into a pitiable narrative.

This maricopa county fan-fiction was supposed to be ground breaking. After months, millions of dollars, 360 more votes for Biden. This is pure comedy.

If you were conducting an experiment to determine who in society was irredeemably hopeless there would be no better way to do it.

At this stage I couldn’t care less what gets people who bought into this fairytale to the polls. If they want to stay home next November and wail about fraud the country is better off without their vote.
 
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Blimey said:
Surely my position was made clear back in November.

I, in absolutely very clear and no uncertain terms, believe this is a fantasy, and the people who still think fraud was extensive enough to switch the winner of the election are delusional. This has all been vetted through dozens of lawsuits, which so predictably turned up nothing of significance.

I was vocal about this in November, starting two days after the election, and consistently about it when I constantly derided his legal team as a bunch negligent hacks (who are presently defending themselves in lawsuits), when I said the kraken redemption story was a fabrication, and at this point there is little left to say to these people but point and laugh. The same who mightily resisted any acknowledgment of the pre-election polls that said Trump would lose, who used lawn signs as their statistical analysis, were so shocked they bought into a pitiable narrative.

This maricopa county fan-fiction was supposed to be ground breaking. After months, millions of dollars, 360 more votes for Biden. This is pure comedy.

If you were conducting an experiment to determine who in society was irredeemably hopeless there would be no better way to do it.

At this stage I couldn’t care less what gets people who bought into this fairytale to the polls. If they want to stay home next November and wail about fraud the country is better off without their vote.
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Whether there was fraud is irrelevant at this point. The ability to prove the election was secure was eliminated last summer.

And, no, you do not need to prove fraud. The government needs to prove the election was legitimate.

Just like the government doesn't need to prove fraud when they audit your taxes. You have to prove each deduction was legitimate.

All that matters is the potential for fraud, and that is obviously there.

If they are not going to close that door and nail it shut, then the only response is to exploit it as heavily as possible.
 
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spat said:
Whether there was fraud is irrelevant at this point. The ability to prove the election was secure was eliminated last summer.

And, no, you do not need to prove fraud. The government needs to prove the election was legitimate.

Just like the government doesn't need to prove fraud when they audit your taxes. You have to prove each deduction was legitimate.

All that matters is the potential for fraud, and that is obviously there.

If they are not going to close that door and nail it shut, then the only response is to exploit it as heavily as possible.
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I know we've gone back and forth on this, but your thing about government proving that is impossible. It is a logical fallacy; proving a negative. Nobody can ever prove that, anymore than you can prove I am not able to see the future or fly. How can you prove it? I insist it's true. Prove it's not. You can't. The government cannot ever prove there was no fraud, particularly going on the very safe assumption that there was some because every election almost certain has, and will always have, some fraud.
 
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Blimey said:
I know we've gone back and forth on this, but your thing about government proving that is impossible. It is a logical fallacy; proving a negative. Nobody can ever prove that, anymore than you can prove I am not able to see the future or fly. How can you prove it? I insist it's true. Prove it's not. You can't. The government cannot ever prove there was no fraud, particularly going on the very safe assumption that there was some because every election almost certain has, and will always have, some fraud.
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They don't have to prove that there is no fraud.

They *do* have to prove that a level of fraud capable of altering the result of the election did not happen.


Just like a drug manufacturer doesn't need to prove that dangerous side effects never happen. but they *do* need to prove that they are below an acceptable level.

It's very simple. Any study (and an election is a form of study) will have a non zero confidence interval. If the result is so close that it is within that window, then the result is inconclusive.


So, the government doesn't need to prove 0 fraud. That would be impossible, there is always going to be some fraud.

They need to demonstrate that there couldn't have been more than X amount of fraud then if the election is any closer than that, then it was a draw.
 
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spat said:
They don't have to prove that there is no fraud.

They *do* have to prove that a level of fraud capable of altering the result of the election did not happen.


Just like a drug manufacturer doesn't need to prove that dangerous side effects never happen. but they *do* need to prove that they are below an acceptable level.

It's very simple. Any study (and an election is a form of study) will have a non zero confidence interval. If the result is so close that it is within that window, then the result is inconclusive.


So, the government doesn't need to prove 0 fraud. That would be impossible, there is always going to be some fraud.

They need to demonstrate that there couldn't have been more than X amount of fraud then if the election is any closer than that, then it was a draw.
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...and instead, their response has largely been to stick their thumb in the eye of anyone who questions the result.
 
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Uninformed and Compliant said:
...and instead, their response has largely been to stick their thumb in the eye of anyone who questions the result.
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The real question is why should *anyone* trust an election if you can't prove it wasn't fraudulent.


If you say it's impossible to prove, then you're saying elections cannot be conducted in such a way that they can be trusted.

It's really that simple.
 
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Forensic Auditors: Maricopa County Election Database Wiped One Day Before Audit​


Cyber security contractors said an administrator account deleted the entire Maricopa County general election results the day before the audit began. Digital forensic auditors Ben Cotton and Doug Logan presented their findings to Arizona Senate President Karen Fann in Phoenix on Friday.

In his technical analysis, CyFIR founder Ben Cotton maintained the EMS server was connected to the internet February 1 and SQL logs indicated election records were wiped that day right before two audits were due to begin on February 2.

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Forensic auditors: Maricopa County election database wiped one day before audit

Cyber security contractors said an administrator account deleted the entire Maricopa County general election results the day before the audit began. Digital forensic auditors Ben Cotton and Doug Logan presented their findings to Arizona Senate President Karen Fann in Phoenix on Friday.
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