Defending others

[Cleck]

If this is political, move it. Also, some of you are going to not agree with me on this, so play nice

I'm seeing a lot of shit on Facebook from my liberal friends and family who voted for Hillary and are now calling things off with people for having that opinion. In the face of having their concerns simply dismissed for being gay/trans/Christian/not Christian/etc. they're calling those people sexist/racist/misogynist/etc. So people who are having their concerns dismissed are doing the same to those same people. A friend made a post that not everyone who voted for Trump is a card carrying KKK member trying to hang black people and boycotting Target for letting people take a shit. Some people wanted change, period. Money has changed hands to go into poor neighborhoods, people aren't getting raises anymore, people are serving 1000 years in Congress, etc. Some people voted for change to that. For simply having those views, they're being simply dismissed as racist or whatever.

These people who voted for Hillary are now afraid that since they're gay/a woman/Muslim/etc. they're suddenly gonna have no voice and are gonna be carted away on trains and driven off a mountain.

That's insane to think that. While I agree that "locker room talk/rape culture" and other things may become more acceptable or more mainstream, it doesn't mean we just stop raising our kids. Raise your kids to fight back and stand up when they believe in something.

I have plenty of women/gay/religious friends and family and I don't care if someone is transgender or wants to take a shit wherever (save your "but they're gonna rape our daughters!" Really, save it). I think their fears are overblown a bit, but I'm with them. It's their choice, and I could really give a shit what they do. It's none of my business. As a white male, I'm not going to sit idly by while someone thinks it's ok to sexually assault or harass them. I'm not gonna let them round them up into train cars and burn them alive. Not all Muslims are terrorists, not all white people want to kill black people, not all BLM's want to kill cops.

I'm not with him, I'm not with her, I'm with America. I support some of the things he wants to change, but I also support Americans. As an armed citizen, it is my duty to stand up for those who won't arm themselves, those who are oppressed, and against a tyrannical government. If they really start rounding up honest people, they'll have to go through me as well. I voted for change, as I'm sure many did. I don't thing anyone voted for a Holocaust.

 

[Blimey]

Fears are overblown by him people people seek out confirmation bias. They go to sites like huffpo all day long and so have convinced themselves that trump starts the hit squads on day one and ships all the mexicans back on day two. It's crazy lunatic stuff.

 

[Celt]

no one is going to round up anyone, its bs propaganda. everyone in this country will enjoy more freedoms, and a better economy with more job opportunities under a trump administration. they are just butt hurt that their party lost. there will be no need to defend any innocent people under a trump administration.

the country will see a drop in crime, more respect for LE and slowly return to the idea of rewards for hard work.

 

[dubleuhb]

Meh, these types bought everything they were told, if they want to believe it then don't sleep at night, I don't care.
I've spent the last 8 years concerned about what those types were doing to this country, I dealt with it just like anyone else that loves America.
I say suck it up buttercup, this is what elections are for, also open your mind, get some facts, you may be pleasantly surprised that what we want is not that different than what you want.

 

[Celt]

no one is going to round up anyone, its bs propaganda. everyone in this country will enjoy more freedoms, and a better economy with more job opportunities under a trump administration. they are just butt hurt that their party lost. there will be no need to defend any innocent people under a trump administration.

the country will see a drop in crime, more respect for LE and slowly return to the idea of rewards for hard work.

 

[Cleck]

That's basically what I'm saying. Nobody is gonna come round them up, but if it happened, most people would not sit idly by and let it happen. They're overreacting on a large scale.

 

[Magnus]

Very well put. My office has been very quiet this morning( a bonus to Trump winning) and people are going around giving each other dirty looks. I just want them to know I'm still the same guy that was plotting their murders before the election.

 

[pjzwtl]

I have a cousin who has apparently gone off the deep end out on FB I don't touch face book so I don't see it but after her online taunting the past few weeks I gave my oldest son and his army buddies my blessing to tell his aunt (really cousin) to GFHerself

 

[HIghlander]

Everyone had their time at the voting booth if they so chose to vote or not. Move on to the next thing needs done in life.

 

[Cleck]

I have a cousin who has apparently gone off the deep end out on FB I don't touch face book so I don't see it but after her online taunting the past few weeks I gave my oldest son and his army buddies my blessing to tell his aunt (really cousin) to GFHerself

Same here. Cousin is very anti-gun, very anti-Trump, makes it no mystery. Spouting about this and that, "herstory" and "I'm with her" but I haven't heard shit since. Dead fucking quiet. I was actually nice to her last night when after voting and predicting the next woman president, she was quick to admit defeat early on, and I said, "At least have confidence in your candidate, have faith" but it was all I could do to just outright laugh in her face. I was so laughing my ass off, and it was hilarious watching all these people flipping out. Still, I'd defend her, even if we differ on our views.

Radio host said today about yesterday, "First you waited in line to cast your vote, then you went and stood in line to put your sticker on Susan B's grave. How's it feel to have wasted your time doing two things?" Dude, I fucking lost it.

 

[ProgSpear]

Very well put. My office has been very quiet this morning( a bonus to Trump winning) and people are going around giving each other dirty looks. I just want them to know I'm still the same guy that was plotting their murders before the election.

Wait! I didn't catch that scenario, just the ones where you were in trouble, rather than being the trouble...

But seriously, a massive progressive character flaw is projection, where they accuse others of all the rotten crap they would like to INFLICT on others. Reality has little bearing on their worldview.

 

[pjzwtl]

Same here. Cousin is very anti-gun, very anti-Trump, makes it no mystery. Spouting about this and that, "herstory" and "I'm with her" but I haven't heard shit since. Dead fucking quiet. I was actually nice to her last night when after voting and predicting the next woman president, she was quick to admit defeat early on, and I said, "At least have confidence in your candidate, have faith" but it was all I could do to just outright laugh in her face. I was so laughing my ass off, and it was hilarious watching all these people flipping out. Still, I'd defend her, even if we differ on our views.

Radio host said today about yesterday, "First you waited in line to cast your vote, then you went and stood in line to put your sticker on Susan B's grave. How's it feel to have wasted your time doing two things?" Dude, I fucking lost it.

I here ya but some of these folks have just gone off the rails lately and are just pure vicious, to which I say ye reap what you sow.

 

[Magnus]

Wait! I didn't catch that scenario, just the ones where you were in trouble, rather than being the trouble...

lol that sounds like a great spin on.

 

[Robin]

WTF kind of whacky shit is this! Cleck, grab hold of yourself! So your going to save some vague sector of mankind .........from.............. who(?)!!! Buy a bag of smoked almonds, lotsa B-12, call me in the morning.
Robin

 

[Phazer]

These people who voted for Hillary are now afraid that since they're gay/a woman/Muslim/etc. they're suddenly gonna have no voice and are gonna be carted away on trains and driven off a mountain.

That's because they don't understand our constitutional republic. They do not understand that they have unalienable rights and that those rights are not conferred, or subject to the limitation, by the central government. They believe in an overbearing government that gives and takes from the people on a whim.

Under the rule of law, and equal protections for all citizens enshrined in the constitution, as long as their referenced minorities are law abiding citizens they are free to do as they wish. Liberals don't know how to live their lives without ever-present government meddling.

 

[Cleck]

WTF kind of whacky shit is this! Cleck, grab hold of yourself! So your going to save some vague sector of mankind .........from.............. who(?)!!! Buy a bag of smoked almonds, lotsa B-12, call me in the morning.
Robin

It's a sector that doesn't exist, but they're getting all worked up over it. I'm just saying if that Twilight Zone ever happens, I'm behind them. Nobody should be afraid to go outside or be themselves. The guvmint isn't coming to take them, but for some reason, they act like that torch and pitch fork bearing group is coming to get them just because Trump says things. I don't get it either. I know it's not gonna happen, but I'm also reminding them of my role as a decent human being

 

[E the massive]

They gladly and openly called for "people like us" to be rounded up, shot, relieved of personal property and liberties. Now they are having that "oh shit" moment when they don't have big momma gov to back their play. They are projecting their violent, non inclusive tendencies onto us.

 

[Bananabandit]

They can shove it up their ass. They expected her to win..tables have turned. If all the claimed people who voted Obama thought he did a good job, why did Hillary not win?

Democrats arent people.

 

[Dr. Evil]

For the last number of years we have watched conservative groups get squeezed and harassed by the IRS/government. We have watched the leadership use the constitution like a door mat. We have watched law breakers get away with coming here illegally and getting food stamps and healthcare. We have watched our gun rights be put through a meat grinder. We have watched races loot and riot. We have watched laws being passed in the dead of night and with the stroke of a pen, bypassing the normal protocol of doing such. We have watched folks tell us if we believe in traditional marriage, religion and guns, we weren't welcome in the state we are in. I have lost endless hours fighting online and at legislative meetings, school board meetings and peaceful protests in Albany. We used our vote as a country to punish those that have made our lives a living hell over the years. So, all I have to say is "Welcome to my world." I really don't care about your insecurities, fears and frustrations that have suddenly appeared because your world has been turned upside down while mine has been righted ever so slightly.

 

[Bananabandit]

For the last number of years we have watched conservative groups get squeezed and harassed by the IRS/government. We have watched the leadership use the constitution like a door mat. We have watched law breakers get away with coming here illegally and getting food stamps and healthcare. We have watched our gun rights be put through a meat grinder. We have watched races loot and riot. We have watched laws being passed in the dead of night and with the stroke of a pen, bypassing the normal protocol of doing such. We have watched folks tell us if we believe in traditional marriage, religion and guns, we weren't welcome in the state we are in. I have lost endless hours fighting online and at legislative meetings, school board meetings and peaceful protests in Albany. We used our vote as a country to punish those that have made our lives a living hell over the years. So, all I have to say is "Welcome to my world." I really don't care about your insecurities, fears and frustrations that have suddenly appeared because your world has been turned upside down while mine has been righted ever so slightly.

CanI buy you a beer?

 

[Robin]

Fucking A Doctaman!!!!!
Robin

 

[Criticalt]

Of course I agree eith Dr Evils post of the month.

Welcome to our world. For years ive been thinking they could come for my guns in the middle of the night, remember? They did that once.
The riots, the cops being shot, the military in peril, taking parts from museums to fix their jets.
Obama and his pen creating exeutive orders.....
Fuck it, you know the list!!!
These liberals have wished horrible things on me for years.
I will sit in my very rural home and wait it out.