EMP on Fox News

[GOPerfect]

The EMP threat is serious ... ... We plan as best we can .. Like most folks $ is a main issue. While I have access to more than most. .. Some decent land ... A few tractors that would work in an EMP era. We Try to buy quality tools Knowledge of growing food .. Canning .... Just had 2 crowns taken care of this month .... $2000 ... As I said money is an issue ... Not enough to go around ... Trying to establish a priority in what needs to be done 1st is challenging at times . Last year dropped over $7000 on an engine rebuild on a 1965 model John Deere diesel tractor ... It will run during an EMP. Around 65 HP with a loader . . Does not take long for the $$$ to fly out of ones hand . ... Not trying to discourage folks . Just keep plugging away . Do the best one can.

We actually budget money for this. At least we try. I believe that anything you can do to prepare for the unknown is more than the next guy. No matter ones financial situation, there is never enough.

I am always working on food stuffs, water supply stuff and most of all, knowledge. Knowledge is power.

 

[Marine Cpl]

One thing that worries me with this or a similar grid down senario is that even though you may have stock piled everything you need, unless you are bugging in at a remote location and have 24hr security(and even with that) you are vulerable to someone or group just burning your house with you and all your weapons and supplies down.

Yep. You have to be grey. You have to go out and beg alongside everyone else and eat your stashed food quietly at night. Those that think they'll be roaming the streets in multicam and plate carriers are going to be the first ones killed. If I was a hungry bandit, I'd shoot you in the head from a distance just to get your rifle and armor. If it was a small team of you in one house, I'd burn your house down for not sharing. One bottle of gas and a match is all that it would take.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

The one scenario that honestly keeps me up at night is a major and extended grid down scenario (EMP, CME, massive cyber attack to a lesser degree).

I stress about other things (dirty bombs, terrorist nukes, chemical attacks, biological agents, pandemics etc...) but an EMP is the only thing that keeps me up at night.

I think in my lifetime an EMP type event has a significant chance of occurring and our government has done very little to protect us. If you want to have any chance to survive you are going to have to be independent and figure it out on your own.

An EMP would be so bad on so many levels. It would literally knock us back to the 1800s starting over from scratch. Instant American Society killer. An EMP would also eliminate almost all centralized gvt. at the local level and the worst elements of society would try to take advantage .


I would prefer a major biological pandemic to an EMP. An EMP would cripple our infrastructure.

I guess I go off on tangents getting angry because all the information is out there. Its all readily available for anyone to learn .But yet.... 96% of Americans would either be totally oblivious to this or outright laugh at it . and if/when it happens they will be first in line looting or demanding someone/government save them and it's someone else's responsibility to save their sorry asses.

All the damn information is out there and has been for decades, unfortunately for us over the past 30 years we are so much more susceptible to the effects of an EMP than we were in the 70a or 80s, we've evolved into being more at risk to a known threat and done nothing about it. Our enemies even publicly mention it in their doctrine or threats to us. They are acknowledging it and were ignoring them because we're dumbasses who can't think outside the box because everyone is conditioned to be a complacent helpless sheep.

If people dare speak out that they want to be independent and have the wisdom to look ahead at potential future events they are laughed at and ridiculed.


Hindsight is 20/20 but there are always clues to future events or direction if you are paying attention.
I wonder if the poles or jews were worried in 1931. Or he'll the Germans too for that matter it didn't end well for them either.

I wonder if people in Atlanta or Charleston were worried in 1860

I wonder if the Iraqis were concerned in 1988

I wonder if the original Russian revolutionaries were worried they would all be consumed and killed off by the next wave of communists.

Were the Romans worried as the hordes apprached the city and Nero played his fiddle?

Workers in the twin towers didn't think twice on Sept.10th

People in pearl harbor on December 6th didn't expect to be attacked either.

History is full of prosperous or dominant civilisations being destroyed. What makes everyone so oblivious to the fact it CAN happen here and we need to be proactive and watchful.




This is one of my favorites (captain smith of the titanic)

 

[FrankenCub]

The EMP threat is serious ... ... We plan as best we can .. Like most folks $ is a main issue. While I have access to more than most. .. Some decent land ... A few tractors that would work in an EMP era. We Try to buy quality tools Knowledge of growing food .. Canning .... Just had 2 crowns taken care of this month .... $2000 ... As I said money is an issue ... Not enough to go around ... Trying to establish a priority in what needs to be done 1st is challenging at times . Last year dropped over $7000 on an engine rebuild on a 1965 model John Deere diesel tractor ... It will run during an EMP. Around 65 HP with a loader . . Does not take long for the $$$ to fly out of ones hand . ... Not trying to discourage folks . Just keep plugging away . Do the best one can.

My '58 Ford Powermaster will be GTG if we do get an EMP. Decent little tractor with around 55 or 58hp. My truck is definitely GTG thanks to Uncle Sam spending our tax dollars to protect against this very thing. Gardening will be nice on the new property, and plenty of water as well. I thought about putting an in-ground cistern, just because. Never can have too much water. Fuel for the tractor may get scarce, but truck will burn much more than diesel lol. I've even considered putting a diesel in my cabin cruiser. Very fuel efficient and quiet. I'd like to do something about a generator but I'm already lacking $$$ for basics most of the time.
Sometimes I wish for an EMP just to sort out our ef'd up country. The left would be washed up by the first week. But, there's many great people who wouldn't last also.

 

[MadScientist]

An EMP would be so bad on so many levels. It would literally knock us back to the 1800s starting over from scratch.

I've been thinking about this for a few weeks now and I think its even worse than that. People back in the 1700 and 1800s had most of what they needed to survive. Life was rugged but they made it work.
Nowadays the division of labor is so ingrained and so much more complicated than it used to be. You have people that spend years of their life developing computer skills, lets use as an example. It is hyperfocused. They spend tons of time perfecting this skill and it provides everything they need. Take away that skill (computers) through EMP and they suddenly, very quickly have no means to protect themselves. And the majority of society operates in this fashion.

 

[pjzwtl]

EMP or a Pandemic are the 2 things that creep me out the most.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

I've been thinking about this for a few weeks now and I think its even worse than that. People back in the 1700 and 1800s had most of what they needed to survive. Life was rugged but they made it work.
Nowadays the division of labor is so ingrained and so much more complicated than it used to be. You have people that spend years of their life developing computer skills, lets use as an example. It is hyperfocused. They spend tons of time perfecting this skill and it provides everything they need. Take away that skill (computers) through EMP and they suddenly, very quickly have no means to protect themselves. And the majority of society operates in this fashion.

Bingo. You get it.

I think you are newer to this forum but I think you understand the magnitude of this threat and the resulting outcome if it ever happens.

 

[livingston]

Threats to Power Grid Demand More Vigorous Response
Security, industry and government officials are increasingly warning that the U.S. electrical power grid faces potential widespread failure from broad-based, systemic threats such as a cyberattack or massive electromagnetic pulse (EMP) disturbance. Indeed, nations as varied as North Korea, Iran, China and Russia have hacked into the U.S power grid. As for EMPs, a senior Department of Homeland Security (DHS) official recently testified before Congress, “EMP can cause widespread disruption and serious damage to electronic devices and networks, including those upon which many critical infrastructures rely.” These so-called “grid-down” risks have yet to be met with the urgency they demand, but time is not on our side.

On the one hand, following growing awareness of the system’s vulnerability to such threats, Duke Energy recently added EMP threats to its emergency plans. Even Congress has gotten engaged by passing EMP-related provisions in the 2017 National Defense Authorization Act which, among other actions, directs DHS to include various grid-down scenarios into its planning and exercises.


Yet there has been little progress beyond studies and assessments, many of which conclude that we need more studies and assessments. This is happening even as the potential of conflict this year with Iran and North Korea seems worrisomely high.

If so many authorities agree grid-down cyber and EMP threats are real, why isn’t more being done? The answer, regrettably, lies hidden somewhere in the conflicting roles and responsibilities held by multiple federal, state and local public-sector stakeholders and the thousands of private sector firms that actually run the power grid.

Who sets the standards, who pays for the research, who implements the remedies
More at ...
https://www.realcleardefense.com/ar...rid_demand_more_vigorous_response_113321.html

 

[livingston]

 

[MadScientist]

I think you are newer to this forum but I think you understand the magnitude of this threat and the resulting outcome if it ever happens.

Yea you filled me in a few weeks ago to this and I’ve since been lost in a rabbit hole of reading and YouTube vids on the subject. Started stock up on canned goods and ammo

 

[GOPerfect]

EMP or a Pandemic are the 2 things that creep me out the most.

Pandemic scares the shit out of me, the EMP not so much! Be a bit of a reset. (Maybe more than a bit)

 

[GOPerfect]

Yea you filled me in a few weeks ago to this and I’ve since been lost in a rabbit hole of reading and YouTube vids on the subject. Started stock up on canned goods and ammo

Yeah, all of my friends and co-workers that I talk to about this subject, I give a warning to; be careful, you can and will get trapped in the research behind it.

 

[FrankenCub]

That's what bothers me more. There's a lot that can be done to survive an extended time after EMP, but with pandemic, it's not going to be only humans that will carry disease. It will be animals, birds being the worst. Even if not directly effected, they may carry it. Slowly dieing of disease is one way I do not want to go.

 

[pjzwtl]

The biggest thing that creeps me out about a pandemic is by the time its a known issue who knows who has been exposed.

 

[MadScientist]

Damn fellas fresh off the front page of Google News feed:
North Korea's Secret Weapon: A Huge Electromagnetic Storm

Bloomberg too, rather surprising to me.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

Damn fellas fresh off the front page of Google News feed:
North Korea's Secret Weapon: A Huge Electromagnetic Storm

Bloomberg too, rather surprising to me.

A little off topic but check this out. This might be the most important plane you've never heard of.

Boeing E-4 - Wikipedia


Its literally designed to survive an EMP and there allegedly is ALWAYS one airborne. When the POTUS travels the E4B has to be within a very short time away to pick the president up, if there were hostilities the president would actually go on the E4 not the normal air force one.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.dail.../Inside-Doomsday-plane-follows-President.html

And just recently in the past few years NORAD relocated back into their refurbished cold war bunker in Cheyenne mountain.. Why??...... You guessed it, because it's hardened against EMPs and their other post cold war headquarters wasn't .

Since the cold war is over isn't it interesting that they are moving back into their EMP shielded bunker?

EMP Threats Force NORAD Back Into Cheyenne Mountain



Its interesting that the highest levels of government command and control go to these lengths for themselves but don't do anything to save us.

Clearly either they are aware of a threat or are expecting something.

Then take into account This beauty that obama signed into law.

Obama's Plan To Seize Control Of Our Economy And Our Lives

And at the same time non law enforcement government agencies are stockpiling guns and ammo.

Is the government 'stockpiling' hundreds of millions of rounds of ammunition for domestic use?

Think about the implications.

The government has carte Blanche in an emergency.


Were on our own.

 

[GOPerfect]

The threat of an EMP is important to some in power only if they can use tax payer funds to protect themselves.

Our Elected Elite cares very little for the everyday American.

 

[99cummins]

Bring it. It’s about time to hit the reset button.

 

[GOPerfect]

Bring it. It’s about time to hit the reset button.

The more time I spend watching and interacting with people, the more that I agree.

 

[MadScientist]

Obama's Plan To Seize Control Of Our Economy And Our Lives

That article is incredible man. Absolutely insane the things they seek to control. Force labor? Complete control of food?

What do you think? That there will be some sort of "culling" of the population? That they want a large proportion of the population to die off? I wouldn't doubt it

 

[FrankenCub]

That article is incredible man. Absolutely insane the things they seek to control. Force labor? Complete control of food?

What do you think? That there will be some sort of "culling" of the population? That they want a large proportion of the population to die off? I wouldn't doubt it

I would bet everything I own on it. Much easier for the globalists to control the population when it happens. Add all this EMP information you've been reading with some added searching of Agenda 21. You wont like it, and for all I'm concerned it's well under way.

 

[GOPerfect]

That article is incredible man. Absolutely insane the things they seek to control. Force labor? Complete control of food?

What do you think? That there will be some sort of "culling" of the population? That they want a large proportion of the population to die off? I wouldn't doubt it

Did you read the Executive Order? Scary shit. I think I posted this Order a while back. Very scary shit indeed!

 

[FrankenCub]

Did you read the Executive Order? Scary shit. I think I posted this Order a while back. Very scary shit indeed!

A direct link for those who missed it and for future readers. It's only 10 pages so there's absolutely no reason for not reading it. Especially when it takes every resource away from citizens to transfer it to government control. Every Resource!
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2012-03-22/pdf/2012-7019.pdf

 

[GOPerfect]

I would bet everything I own on it. Much easier for the globalists to control the population when it happens. Add all this EMP information you've been reading with some added searching of Agenda 21. You wont like it, and for all I'm concerned it's well under way.

Glenn Beck wrote a two book series in regards to Agenda 21. Fiction based on real. Very, very good reads.

 

[FrankenCub]

Glenn Beck wrote a two book series in regards to Agenda 21. Fiction based on real. Very, very good reads.

I haven't read them but I believe he had some coverage on it during one of his shows. Regardless, there's enough information on Agenda 21 right from the horse's mouth, they aren't even trying to be sly about their goals. That's the freaky part! And so many people in Europe are buying it hook line and sinker.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

That article is incredible man. Absolutely insane the things they seek to control. Force labor? Complete control of food?

What do you think? That there will be some sort of "culling" of the population? That they want a large proportion of the population to die off? I wouldn't doubt it

It's incredible, yet true.

No one (except people like us) talk about it Or even knows it exists and the information is all readily available.

I don't know what the government/deep state/globalists plan to do but it probably isn't good. They love power and control and they can't get enough of it.

I just try to absorb whatever information is publicly available, what leaders say and process the information and read between the lines.

As @GOPerfect said you quickly start going down the rabbit hole.

Agenda 21 - Wikipedia


This CIA sponsored think tank thinks were going to lose a majority of our population in the next 7 years
List of Countries Forecast 2025

Here are a few gems







And why the establishment hates trump

 

[freddy]

 

[freddy]

"For more than a century, ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure — one world, if you will. If that is the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.
The anti-Rockefeller focus of these otherwise incompatible political positions owes much to Populism. "Populists" believe in conspiracies and one of the most enduring is that a secret group of international bankers and capitalists, and their minions, control the world's economy. Because of my name and prominence as head of the Chase for many years, I have earned the distinction of "conspirator in chief" from some of these people.
Populists and isolationists ignore the tangible benefits that have resulted in our active international role during the past half-century. Not only was the very real threat posed by Soviet Communism overcome, but there have been fundamental improvements in societies around the world, particularly in the United States, as a result of global trade, improved communications, and the heightened interaction of people from different cultures. Populists rarely mention these positive consequences, nor can they cogently explain how they would have sustained American economic growth and expansion of our political power without them."​

 

[FrankenCub]

This CIA sponsored think tank thinks were going to lose a majority of our population in the next 7 years
List of Countries Forecast 2025

I think the population stats are being looked at differently. The US for instance would look like a drop to 99mill, but if you click on the US it will open where you can see the population densities. It goes from 55 per sq/mile to 50 per sq/mile. So it would make more sense that we would loose only 99mill, which is roughly a third of our current population. Not so bad really.

But if you go back and look at China, it shows going from 1.4bill to loosing 1.4bill. Yet the population density remains the same as ours, both before and after.
I didn't find NK on the list anywhere either.

edit: Something else interesting, Mexico is forecast to gain by 124mill....do we have 99mill illegals here? lol
edit again: LMAO...no shit, just read this in the article under the stats...

We see a significant part of the American population migrating to Latin America and Asia

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

I think the population stats are being looked at differently. The US for instance would look like a drop to 99mill, but if you click on the US it will open where you can see the population densities. It goes from 55 per sq/mile to 50 per sq/mile. So it would make more sense that we would loose only 99mill, which is roughly a third of our current population. Not so bad really.

But if you go back and look at China, it shows going from 1.4bill to loosing 1.4bill. Yet the population density remains the same as ours, both before and after.
I didn't find NK on the list anywhere either.

edit: Something else interesting, Mexico is forecast to gain by 124mill....do we have 99mill illegals here? lol
edit again: LMAO...no shit, just read this in the article under the stats...

I just re-read that website and I think it predicts our population to drop to a country population of 99 million and our GDP barely above 3rd world status.

I read farther into the website and they posted a "rationale" explaining the reason because they were inundated with people freaking out.

This is an excerpt of their quoted justification for what they expect to happen to us by 2025

"The collapse of the Western financial system will wipe out the standard of living of its population while ending ponzi schemes such as the stock exchange and the pension funds. The population will be hit so badly by a full array of bubbles and ponzi schemes that the migration engine will start to work in reverse accelerating itself due to ripple effects thus leading to the demise of the States. This unseen situation for the States will develop itself in a cascade pattern with unprecedented and devastating effects for the economy. Jobs offshoring will surely end with many American Corporations relocating overseas thus becoming foreign Corporations!!!! We see a significant part of the American population migrating to Latin America and Asia while migration to Europe - suffering a similar illness - won't be relevant. Nevertheless the death toll will be horrible. Take into account that the Soviet Union's population was poorer than the Americans nowadays or even then. The ex-Soviets suffered during the following struggle in the 1990s with a significant death toll and the loss of national pride. Might we say "Twice the pride, double the fall"? Nope. The American standard of living is one of the highest, far more than double of the Soviets while having added a services economy that will be gone along with the financial system. When pensioners see their retirement disappear in front of their eyes and there are no servicing jobs you can imagine what is going to happen next. At least younger people can migrate. Never in human history were so many elders among the population. In past centuries people were lucky to get to their 30s or 40s. The American downfall is set to be far worse than the Soviet Union's one. A confluence of crisis with a devastating result."