Ex-Trump lawyer Cohen admits to illegal payments at direction of candidate

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Jezman said:
So if I told you to rob a bank and you did would I go to jail because I told you too? This is more of a don't look right my left has your attention. Never read where it said anything about Trump. But if it was published in a fake news outlet i would discount it fast. Not sure yet what to make of this but I think it is a mole hill made to be a mountain. Your First statement is fear driven, just like a sheep should respond. Sit back watch the shit show they are dumb enough to bury themselves.
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I will say my "fear" is well founded in that the Deep state is made up of extremely powerful people that I believe are setting a legal trap for POTUS. They have no other options.

Lets look at who has not even been investigated, the entire Obama administration should be charged with Sedition ( Not treason) but? nope? not one word of any prosecution. The entire Clinton crime family should be charged with Sedition and Tax evasion but, nope?

There is a lot to be worried over here. You can sit back and relax and watch the shit show, me, Im going into Prep mode.
 
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Grimscale said:
Cohen can "say" anything he wants.
If he cannot back it up with PROOF, then I guess Trump is going to keep warming the President's chair with his ass, while the Democrats keep talking out of theirs.
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Similarly, Cohen can plead guilty to anything he wants. Such a plea is not an adjudication and does not legally implicate anyone else in any "crime" to which he personally accepts culpability.

Heck...I can plead guilty to internet communications with DrEvil regarding interstate gun trafficking. That doesn't mean that I actually engaged in such an activity. And, it certainly does not prove that DrEvil did anything of the sort.
 
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Celt said:
Paying women off not to talk is not a crime.
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The way our laws are written, almost anything can be a crime if the government wants to get you.
Blackmailing people with disproportionately long prison terms to force them to plead guilty is how government gets around our right to trial by a jury.
 
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Bill Clinton was impeached and refused to leave office and stayed as president not sure of all the details but food for thought
 
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minderasr said:
Ex-Trump lawyer Cohen admits to illegal payments at direction of candidate to influence election

Does this mean we'll now have President Pence?
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Despite the media hype it is not a campaign contribution for a candidate to instruct his attorney to pay-off a nuisance claim to avoid any issues or embarrassment. It is not a campaign donation for Donald Trump to reimburse his attorney for paying the claim.

♦The issue of the Cohen payment being an “in kind” campaign contribution is the bottom line question which underpins the charge.

There is no FEC rule or law that says a candidate cannot pay-off an accuser to avoid further issues, a nuisance claim. Paying an accuser to avoid controversy or embarrassment, is no different than a candidate buying an American made car -with personal funds- to gain the beneficial public optics of not driving a foreign car. Neither expense example makes the payment an aspect of am “in kind” campaign contribution.

There is no connected claim that President Trump used campaign funds to repay his attorney for eliminating the nuisance claim. President Trump, a businessman, used his own business income to repay his attorney; an attorney on a monthly retainer.

The entire charge of Cohen making a campaign contribution, or campaign finance violation, is a manufactured claim, made only by the SDNY, for political benefit.

Former FEC Chairman Bradley Smith explains the details of the non-issue to radio host Mark Levin. Watch/Listen:


Count Eight transaction surrounds a payment to Stephanie Clifford (Stormy Daniels) of $130,000 for a nuisance claim. Who says it is a campaign contribution? The SDNY does, no-one else. Not even the FEC considers this a campaign contribution.

Count eight is a political charge/plea specifically included for the purpose of pulling Donald Trump into the SDNY Cohen case. There is no FEC violation here. *Note it is not the Federal Election Commission making the claim, only the SDNY prosecutors.
Michael Cohen Plea Agreement – Six Counts Valid, One Count Possibly Invalid, One Count Ridiculous – Guess Where The Media Focus…
 
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FLASHBACK: Remember When Obama Campaign Was Fined $375,000 for Campaign Reporting Violations AND NO JAIL TIME?
Michael Cohen admitted he violated campaign finance laws in relation to the Stormy Daniels payment at direction of a ‘candidate.’ He paid off the porn star over $100,000 in a hush money agreement which she later violated.
Democrats and their liberal media cheered that this was the end of the Trump “regime.”

But it wasn’t that long ago that a presidential campaign was charged with much worse.

In 2013 Maggie Haberman at Politico reported on the criminal campaign reporting violations against the Obama campaign.
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FLASHBACK: Remember When Obama Campaign Was Fined $375,000 for Campaign Reporting Violations AND NO JAIL TIME?
 
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He can say whatever he wants, but prosecutors don't offer pleas for fun. The fact he got a plea deal tells me he probably has some dirt.

Not paying much attention, though, because the media has basically numbed me to anti-trump news such that it's hard for me to tell what is or isn't legitimate, so I'll just wait for the courts to figure it out more or less.
 
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If I was Trump, I would wait until this witch hunt runs out of steam and pardon every single person who was prosecuted directly or indirectly by Mueller as a result of this political power play. Even those who flipped and were used against Trump. Nullify the entire Mueller's work. It will look much better than pardoning just a few.
 
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Celt said:
Paying women off not to talk is not a crime.
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Ordinarily this is true, but the way that sniveling POS coward Cohen worded it, he paid her off to impact an election result. Its a stretch but like Mosinitis says, if the G wants to get you...................
This is nothing less than a Coup D'e tat. Effing Sessions should be pilloried and drummed out of government for what he has and has not done, he must be the deep states most effective mole.
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tirwin1 said:
I noticed that phrasing as well. Not sure what to make of it.

Clearly a bad day for trump. Not sure what it means legally for him. The press will make it seem like impeachment is completely justified and right around the corner. This guarantees the elections this november will be critical.
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Just media hype...
 
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I get your point, but even if he wanted her quiet to not effect his campaign, I still dont think thats criminal. Now, if he directed Cohen to pay her off with campaign funds thats not good, but I cant see that being the case as Trump is too smart for that.
 
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Bushmaster said:
Yes BUT... He said campaign, he did NOT say not TRUMP.... SOOOOO IDK....
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Grey area maybe but it’s a minor offense and really just a fine. The list of current congressional critters and senate lurkers who have been nailed and fined for similar crap is to long to list
 
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