freddy
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We will have to agree to disagree then.
Eyewitness Survivors of Mandalay Bay are being MURDERED
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Marine Cpl
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Do it yourself or go on YouTube. You'll see plenty of muzzle flash on camera at a distance.
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
Here's an odd one. Sure looks like muzzle flash below the strobe.
Well anyway camera's not being able to pick up muzzle flash is silly.
Robin
Well anyway camera's not being able to pick up muzzle flash is silly.
Robin
@thewheels
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@thewheels
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Interesting listen here:
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holdover
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Your going to wait to get a final report by the very same people who are suspected of covering it up ? I see..
Ill save you the trouble.
""We investigated ourselves and found us clear of all wrong doing""
Your expecting the FBI to expose their own cover up? Because that is never going into the final report . Ergo if there was any wrong doing you wouldn't know about it ever.
The police reports on Sandy hook are not accurate, and there are no eyewitnesses to the crime except some unknown kids and the school nurse who saw Adams boots even though he was wearing sneakers .None of the survivors who saw adam were ever interviewed , which leaves us with no witnesses to the crime except from what were told by the media and the police . there are no photos of any body's not even the shooters. there are no photos of the actual crime scene inside classroom 8 and 10 and the front hall . You only know what they tell you . Even though police and media helicopters were there filming a chase scene at 939 there are no videos of kids leaving the school , There are no dash cam videos of kids leaving the school even though they arrived minutes after the shooting. there are no cell phone videos from any classroom . We know only what we are told, But when we ask questions about inconsistencies in the police reports . we are told nothing.
Let me ask you this, the final report of Sandy hook has been out for a few years , Can you please explain why his mother gave him a christmas gift to buy a CZ5 handgun when he wasnt old enough to buy it? Thats in the police report and it was never addressed.
Ill save you the trouble.
""We investigated ourselves and found us clear of all wrong doing""
Your expecting the FBI to expose their own cover up? Because that is never going into the final report . Ergo if there was any wrong doing you wouldn't know about it ever.
The police reports on Sandy hook are not accurate, and there are no eyewitnesses to the crime except some unknown kids and the school nurse who saw Adams boots even though he was wearing sneakers .None of the survivors who saw adam were ever interviewed , which leaves us with no witnesses to the crime except from what were told by the media and the police . there are no photos of any body's not even the shooters. there are no photos of the actual crime scene inside classroom 8 and 10 and the front hall . You only know what they tell you . Even though police and media helicopters were there filming a chase scene at 939 there are no videos of kids leaving the school , There are no dash cam videos of kids leaving the school even though they arrived minutes after the shooting. there are no cell phone videos from any classroom . We know only what we are told, But when we ask questions about inconsistencies in the police reports . we are told nothing.
Let me ask you this, the final report of Sandy hook has been out for a few years , Can you please explain why his mother gave him a christmas gift to buy a CZ5 handgun when he wasnt old enough to buy it? Thats in the police report and it was never addressed.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
What do they mean by "Active Shooters on the Runway?"
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
@freddy . At this point you are either arguing just to argue because you refuse to lose a discussion instead of just saying that we may have a point about a certain topic, really are naive and believe the narrative, or you just don't want to believe anything negative government related because it scares you.
Either way, you have time admit that things just do not add up. Compare this with other shootings besides Sandy Hook and tell me the handling of this is normal.
Either way, you have time admit that things just do not add up. Compare this with other shootings besides Sandy Hook and tell me the handling of this is normal.
Freddy just enjoys the attention given to a Contrarian.
And to be honest, as I've said before, his posts are a good thing.
He forces the rest of us to think a little harder, to sharpen our debating skills.
The ONLY motive I can come up with that would justify THE DEEP STATE being involved would be THE AUSTRALIA SCENARIO.
Most of us know this all too clearly, but it bears repeating:
after the Port Arthur massacre, a 1996 mass shooting in which one man killed 35 people. Australia outlawed semi-automatic rifles, certain categories of shotgun, and implemented strict licensing and registration requirements. The cornerstone of its new gun-control scheme, however, was a massive gun buyback program. The Australian government purchased 650,000 to one million guns with funds raised via a special tax.
CONFISCATION
The Australia Gun Control Fallacy
Obama Praises Australia's Gun Confiscation
Most of us know this all too clearly, but it bears repeating:
after the Port Arthur massacre, a 1996 mass shooting in which one man killed 35 people. Australia outlawed semi-automatic rifles, certain categories of shotgun, and implemented strict licensing and registration requirements. The cornerstone of its new gun-control scheme, however, was a massive gun buyback program. The Australian government purchased 650,000 to one million guns with funds raised via a special tax.
CONFISCATION
The Australia Gun Control Fallacy
Obama Praises Australia's Gun Confiscation
BerettaGuy
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Hate to reply to myself, but I saw a video that the FBI was advertising to the concert goers for help in the investigation if they had videos. Needless to say, hundreds of people wanted to help and gave their phones to the investigators. When they got them back the videos and pictures were wiped.
This whole thing stinks.
freddy
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And lots of missed flashes due to frame rate primarily. Regardless, the point remains shells could have been ejected outside.
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freddy
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Too funny.
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Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Yep. Sure is. Quite comical actually.
freddy
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freddy
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Damn. You got me here. I admit this is definitive proof beyond any shadow of a doubt. She gave him a gift when he wasn't old enough to buy it???? What??? There is the final undeniable proof of a conspiracy like no other! Amazing!
holdover
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No Freddy it means it's total bulls shit. It doesn't prove a conspiracy but it does prove that part of the story is false, moreover, the police had a year to investigate.and this was one of many falsehoods in the report. This is evidence that the report wrong. And it would hold up in any court. A shotgun blast to the bookcase in the front of the school is evidence that elements of the the story is false. Many witnesses accounts are proven false like miss Sibley who claimed to have been in front of the school doesnt fit the timeline of events and doesn't recall seeing any blood or brass caseings where she said she was standing ,at the time she was standing there .she never claims to have heard the sirens which were blaring.everything that woman has said has been debunked as false. Yet the police used her account in their final report. To 99% of normal thinking people that's a red flag that the story itself was false. The fact that they won't release the a team crime scene photos would give normal people a cause for concern.
Media reports for 24 hours all claimed the shooter had two handguns, all of them. The media obtained their information directly from police sources who could not possibly have made that mistake. In the first few hours police corrected several mistakes about the case including the death of the father, the missing girlfriend the name of the shooter ect.yet they failed to address the weapon used until more than 24 hours later. Total nonsense
Media reports for 24 hours all claimed the shooter had two handguns, all of them. The media obtained their information directly from police sources who could not possibly have made that mistake. In the first few hours police corrected several mistakes about the case including the death of the father, the missing girlfriend the name of the shooter ect.yet they failed to address the weapon used until more than 24 hours later. Total nonsense
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freddy
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I had considered going through your post, point by point, but really it is entirely assumption and conjecture. Eyewitness testimony is frequently fraught with errors. Police make mistakes.
holdover
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That's bulls shit response if I ever heard one.
First off, eyewitness testimony is often confused and unreliable. That's my point , I already told you that there isn't any reliable eyewitness accounts .that leaves only with the police report which has many conflicting errors within it, including court ordered gag ordersand redacted reports.
The very problem with the police report is it's conflicting stories and hidden evidence. Unless the police can explain why there was a shotgun blast to the front window and bookcase, or why kids fleeing the front of the school didn't show up on their dashcams,then their report is unreliable.
That's not a fucking mistake freddy, that's an omission of facts, and because of that omission their story is suspect. It's not a mistake it's not an oversight it's a willful omission of facts.
Because the eyewitness accounts are completely bogus and the police reports have omitted facts it stands to reason that any thinking person would conclude that nobody actually knows what went down at Sandy hook. Now your either to stupid, which I don't believe or your covering.
If your daughter was murdered I'm pretty sure you would want answers as to why there's a shotgun blast to the bookshelf that nobody will address. Don't give me that, shrug your shoulder bullshit. WTF happened? Lanza's shotgun was never fired police never recovered a shellcasing from nor did they fire a shot
Any person with 2cents in their fucking head would have to find that the story were told is impossible. The police failure to address this issue is concerning to say the least.
Further more the police reports stated that officers retrieved keys from the main office and opened the bathroom door in miss roing S roompolice photographs of the door handle show this is a lie as the door knob was drilled or shot out and keys could not work. And your going to sit there and tell me they did? That I'm crazy?if so it's pretty clear that you have no intentention offending out what happened but are only ridiculeing people that do.
First off, eyewitness testimony is often confused and unreliable. That's my point , I already told you that there isn't any reliable eyewitness accounts .that leaves only with the police report which has many conflicting errors within it, including court ordered gag ordersand redacted reports.
The very problem with the police report is it's conflicting stories and hidden evidence. Unless the police can explain why there was a shotgun blast to the front window and bookcase, or why kids fleeing the front of the school didn't show up on their dashcams,then their report is unreliable.
That's not a fucking mistake freddy, that's an omission of facts, and because of that omission their story is suspect. It's not a mistake it's not an oversight it's a willful omission of facts.
Because the eyewitness accounts are completely bogus and the police reports have omitted facts it stands to reason that any thinking person would conclude that nobody actually knows what went down at Sandy hook. Now your either to stupid, which I don't believe or your covering.
If your daughter was murdered I'm pretty sure you would want answers as to why there's a shotgun blast to the bookshelf that nobody will address. Don't give me that, shrug your shoulder bullshit. WTF happened? Lanza's shotgun was never fired police never recovered a shellcasing from nor did they fire a shot
Any person with 2cents in their fucking head would have to find that the story were told is impossible. The police failure to address this issue is concerning to say the least.
Further more the police reports stated that officers retrieved keys from the main office and opened the bathroom door in miss roing S roompolice photographs of the door handle show this is a lie as the door knob was drilled or shot out and keys could not work. And your going to sit there and tell me they did? That I'm crazy?if so it's pretty clear that you have no intentention offending out what happened but are only ridiculeing people that do.
I almost never catch flashes on camera. Though it's easier with my G20C and Power Pistol reloads.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
You are correct. Muzzle flash cannot be captured by camera. My mistake.
freddy
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The flashes in those videos are only sometimes captured by the camera. This is precisely my claim. Consumer video does not reliably capture rapid flashing events. Thank you for proving my point Will.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
You need help dude. I can post more and you'll still say you can't see it. Okay dude.
freddy
.308 Win
Flashes are only recorded intermittently in your video. You cannot see that?
Regardless, the brass 'missing' from the Vegas shooting may have been ejected outside. But that is not as exciting as a 'massive coverup and conspiracy' is it? It is as if you prefer to be betrayed.
Did anybody say "cannot be captured" or did they say "a lot are missed due to frame rates?"
freddy
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Exactly. Thank you.
holdover
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The police said his hard drive was missing, is that correct? Let know if I'm wrong on that