Fake Chemical Attack Unraveled
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reinhardt
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RT News is funded by the Russian Gov't.
Yes, so what does it make us?
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BDinPutnam
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CNN may suck but it is pretty clearly not an arm of the government.
Celt
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It's pretty clear that the Russians are going to try to discredit the attack. It will only sow seeds of Chaos in our own country to try to create even more political division here. Plus, in their own interest because they are supporting the Assad regime and it makes them look bad for supporting an animal who will use chemical weapons on his own people
CNN is the arm of the State Department who pretends to be independent. RT is the underdog in news business. They can't afford to be fake news, they will be simply ignored.
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BDinPutnam
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Yup, that explains why they broadcast anti-Trump nonsense 24/7. 
So the little boy in the video is FSB provocateur inserted into a real attack? They "will TRY to discredit"? It didn't look like a chemical attack in a first place and now there will be evidence coming out. This is not the only evidence they have.
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holdover
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CNN says its true. Why would you question CNN?
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Like I said, the present day US government would nuke the world before they would use the DOJ against anti-gun states.
Yup, that explains why they broadcast anti-Trump nonsense 24/7.
This is not true. More often than not they defend Trump.
BDinPutnam
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Can you dumb it down and use bullet points and two syllable or less words for a troglodyte like me?
Why and when did this go from Russia: Bad (or at least, negative) to Russia: Good (or positive/possibly better than US)?
This is fairly recent; not long ago nonleftys in America were mocking "the Obama reset" etc.
Is it really as simple as "the left doesn't like them/uses them as a cudgel against our guy so they must be good?"
It frankly feels like a defense mechanism.
I have nothing against the Russian people but there is no way you can tell me COL Putin and company are not thieving, murderous scum. Sorry but that's the way it is. If I'm wrong, tell me why- ideally, please cite some non-dead Russian journalists who don't literally work for the Russian government, and possibly some viable, non-dead or not in jail opposition candidates who actually get to run in free and fair elections.
Bear in mind I have the mind of a three year old since I am a 42 year old American conservative so talk slow.
Why and when did this go from Russia: Bad (or at least, negative) to Russia: Good (or positive/possibly better than US)?
This is fairly recent; not long ago nonleftys in America were mocking "the Obama reset" etc.
Is it really as simple as "the left doesn't like them/uses them as a cudgel against our guy so they must be good?"
It frankly feels like a defense mechanism.
I have nothing against the Russian people but there is no way you can tell me COL Putin and company are not thieving, murderous scum. Sorry but that's the way it is. If I'm wrong, tell me why- ideally, please cite some non-dead Russian journalists who don't literally work for the Russian government, and possibly some viable, non-dead or not in jail opposition candidates who actually get to run in free and fair elections.
Bear in mind I have the mind of a three year old since I am a 42 year old American conservative so talk slow.
holdover
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why is he a thieving, murderous scum?
BDinPutnam
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Tell me why he's not. Explain to me in simple terms the first armed annexation of any territory in the western world since Hitler (yeah, throw Godwin at me, I'm fine with that). Tell me about Navalny, et al- does the US have opposition candidates gunned down next to the capital and show trials of foreign fall guys?
Drop my hyperbolic language from above and answer my central question.
Drop my hyperbolic language from above and answer my central question.
holdover
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Well I 'll tell you what I see, I see a man that spent his life in the service of his country and loves his country and is concerned about his people. I don't see that in the US very much
holdover
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He annexed the Crimea because the US had plans to put a base in there.
If you use that standard how many country's did the US attack in the last 30 years and how many did Russia?
If you use that standard how many country's did the US attack in the last 30 years and how many did Russia?
holdover
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In briefing to Congress, DNI, SecDef, and SecState provided zero real evidence. Referenced info circulating online. Which means either they chose not to provide proof to Congress or they don’t have conclusive proof that Assad carried out gas attack. Either way, not good.
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Burzum
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This is a complex issue (I do not mean that sarcastically) these things have to be looked at macrocosmically.
Recall when you were in high school and Hussein was attacked for invading Kuwait? To help build support some bitch testified before the US Congress about Iraqi soldiers throwing Kuwaiti babies on the floor when they were in Kuwait, the "media" beat the war drums, playing that sound clip. Except it was TOTALLY false, NEVER happened, proven after the war to have been fake testimony. So compare Bush41 and the coalition with Putin-are they murderers, is Bush41 a murderer for the 5000 civilians killed in Panama when going after his former friend Noriega?
President Hugo Chavez once said how would America like it if he sent planes to bomb/burn the tobacco fields that make the US cigarettes that were killing his people while the US uses the "War on Drugs" as a pretext to attack Venezuela.
In geopolitics who is the hero and who is the villain is a lot more murky than Americans realize.
Lets start with Crimea. Under Ukrainian Constitution Crimea had an autonomy. It held a referendum and voted itself out of Ukraine. So did Ukraine 27 years ago. Moreover, Pre-Soviet Russia was subdivided into 15 republics by the Bolsheviks. Who the fuck are we to enforce Bolshevik subdivision of Russia. They can split or reunite without our consent.
Dinkus the Stinkus
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Burzum
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Firebrand Conservative standard bearer, Pat Buchanan, has been asking that question since the Bush43 administration, if the CIA would stop poking Putin in eye meddling with elections in the former Soviet republics, maybe relations would improve.
People who knock Putin, never actually listen to what he has to say. His world view, view of history, international relations and plain wisdom is 10 levels higher then hollow, ignorant drivel you hear from politicians in our country. Why Russians love Putin? They can see what he has done for their country and what's even more they are very proud of him.
Dinkus the Stinkus
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I do laugh at people who say, "I hate Russia, and Russians." I always ask them why and they just talk in circles trying to convince me and themselves that they have a justified reason for this hatred.
Marine Cpl
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Unless you were there, you'd never know. Just like these fake shootings. It could very well have happened and a fake attack like above done to throw off the scent or it could have been really fake all along. You'll never know.
We had to prove they did it, before we retaliated. This is how sane world works. Our proof was a video which is a fake.
And the motives for the strike may have been totally necessary and altruistic. You don't know what we don't know.