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Let's change this up! You show documentation that the BOR's applied to the States! Prove me wrong!! And not just your opinion!
1 I wont ever change your mind because you believe in your heart in the restrictions.
And let's see.
The 10th amendment goes a little something like this:
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
So looks like it leaves anything not covered by the constitution up to the states,....
Damn I guess you got me there, cause there is no amendment in the constitution that says the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Damn well looks like I los... oh wait that's the 2nd amendment......
But anyways let's change it up again
Do you support carry licenses?
And still waiting for evidence of..
nortatoga
.338 Win Mag
Not how it works the 10th was passed at the same time as the 2nd!
United States Bill of Rights - Wikipedia
The United States Bill of Rights comprises the first ten amendments to the United States Constitution. Proposed following the often bitter 1787–88 debate over the ratification of the Constitution, and written to address the objections raised by Anti-Federalists, the Bill of Rights amendments add to the Constitution specific guarantees of personal freedoms and rights, clear limitations on the government's power in judicial and other proceedings, and explicit declarations that all powers not specifically granted to the U.S. Congress by the Constitution are reserved for the states or the people. The concepts codified in these amendments are built upon those found in earlier documents, especially the Virginia Declaration of Rights (1776), as well as the English Bill of Rights (1689) and the Magna Carta (1215).[1]
Due largely to the efforts of Representative James Madison, who studied the deficiencies of the Constitution pointed out by anti-federalists and then crafted a series of corrective proposals, Congress approved twelve articles of amendment on September 25, 1789, and submitted them to the states for ratification. Contrary to Madison's proposal that the proposed amendments be incorporated into the main body of the Constitution (at the relevant articles and sections of the document), they were proposed as supplemental additions (codicils) to it.[2] Articles Three through Twelve were ratified as additions to the Constitution on December 15, 1791, and became Amendments One through Ten of the Constitution. Article Two became part of the Constitution on May 5, 1992, as the Twenty-seventh Amendment. Article One is still pending before the states.
Although Madison's proposed amendments included a provision to extend the protection of some of the Bill of Rights to the states, the amendments that were finally submitted for ratification applied only to the federal government. The door for their application upon state governments was opened in the 1860s, following ratification of the Fourteenth Amendment. Since the early 20th century both federal and state courts have used the Fourteenth Amendment to apply portions of the Bill of Rights to state and local governments. The process is known as incorporation.[3]
Check out the last paragraph! Since you seem to not want to do your own research!
Hmm so it was passed at the same time, so that means that the 2nd doesnt exist? Show me the txt there that stays this nullifies the previous amendments getting passed at the same time?
Also
Also
I have done enough research
"the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed"
Not sure where to find the part that continues that to say "unless the state wants to infringe then game on"
"the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed"
Not sure where to find the part that continues that to say "unless the state wants to infringe then game on"
nortatoga
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Yes as far as the Federal Government!
Have you ever looked a State Constitutions?
Here I did some of your homework for you!
40 States have Constitutional Right to Bear Arms
Alabama: "That every citizen has a right to bear arms in defense of himself and the state." Ala. Const. art. I, § 26. Alaska: "A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free ...
40 States have Constitutional Right to Bear Arms
by David M. Goldman
Alabama: “That every citizen has a right to bear arms in defense of himself and the state.” Ala. Const. art. I, § 26.
Alaska: “A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.” Alaska Const. art. I, § 19.
Arizona: “The right of the individual citizen to bear arms in defense of himself or the State shall not be impaired, but nothing in this section shall be construed as authorizing individuals or corporations to organize, maintain, or employ an armed body of men.”
Ariz. Const. art. II, § 26.
Arkansas: “The citizens of this State shall have the right to keep and bear arms for their common defense.” Ark. Const. art. II, § 5.
Colorado: “The right of no person to keep and bear arms in defense of his home, person and property, or in aid of the civil power when thereto legally summoned, shall be called in question;
but nothing herein contained shall be construed to justify the practice of carrying concealed weapons.” Colo. Const. art. II, § 13.
Connecticut: “Every citizen has a right to bear arms in defense of himself and the state.” Conn. Const. art. I, § 15.
Deleware: Article One, Section 20 of the Delaware Constitution: “Section 20. A person has the right to keep and bear arms for the defense of self, family, home and State, and for hunting and recreational use.”
Florida: “The right of the people to keep and bear arms in defense of themselves and of the lawful authority of the state shall not be infringed, except that the manner of bearing arms may be regulated by law.” Fla. Const. art. I, § 8.
Georgia: “The right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed, but the General Assembly shall have the power to prescribe the manner in which arms may be borne.” Ga. Const. art. I, § 1, para. 5.
Hawaii: “A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.” Hawaii Const. art. I, § 15.
Idaho: “The people have the right to keep and bear arms, which right shall not be abridged; but this provision shall not prevent the passage of laws to govern the carrying of weapons concealed on the person nor prevent passage of legislation providing minimum sentences for crimes committed while in possession of a firearm, nor prevent the passage of legislation providing penalties for the possession of firearms by a convicted felon, nor prevent the passage of any legislation punishing the use of a firearm. No law shall impose licensure, registration or special taxation on the ownership or possession of firearms or ammunition. Nor shall any law permit the confiscation of firearms, except those actually used in the commission of a felony.” Idaho Const. art. I, § 11.
Illinois: “Subject only to the police power, the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.” Ill. Const. art. I, § 22.
Indiana: “The people shall have a right to bear arms, for the defense of themselves and the State.” Ind. Const. art. I, § 32.
Kansas: “The people have the right to bear arms for their defense and security; but standing armies, in time of peace,
are dangerous to liberty, and shall not be tolerated, and the military shall be in strict subordination to the civil power.” Kan. Const., Bill of Rights, § 4.
Kentucky: “All men are, by nature, free and equal,
and have certain inherent and inalienable rights, among which may be reckoned: … Seventh: The right to bear arms in defense of themselves and of the State, subject to the power of the General Assembly to enact laws to prevent persons from carrying concealed weapons.” Ky. Const. § I, para. 7.
Louisiana: “The right of each citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be abridged, but this provision shall not prevent the passage of laws to prohibit the carrying of weapons concealed on the person.” La. Const. art. I, § 11.
Maine: “Every citizen has a right to keep and bear arms for the common defense; and this right shall never be questioned.” Me. Const. art. I, § 16.
Massachusetts: “The people have a right to keep and bear arms for the common defense. And as, in times of peace, armies are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be maintained without the consent of the legislature; and the military power shall always be held in an exact subordination to the civil authority, and be governed by it.” Mass. Const. pt. I, art. XVII.
Michigan: “Every person has a right to keep or bear arms for the defense of himself and the State.” Mich. Const. art. I, § 6.
Mississippi: “The right of every citizen to keep and bear arms in defense of his home, person, or property, or in aid of the civil power where thereto legally summoned, shall not be called in question, but the legislature may regulate or forbid carrying concealed weapons.” Miss. Const. art. III, § 12.
Missouri: “That the right of every citizen to keep and bear arms in defense of his home, person and property, or when lawfully summoned in aid of the civil power, shall not be questioned;
but this shall not justify the wearing of concealed weapons.” Mo. Const. art. I, § 23.
Montana: “The right of any person to keep or bear arms in defense of his own home, person, and property, or in aid of the civil power when thereto legally summoned, shall not be called in question, but nothing herein contained shall be held to permit the carrying of concealed weapons.” Mont. Const. art. II, § 12.
Nebraska: “… and the right to keep and bear arms for security or defense of self, family, home and others, and for lawful common defense, hunting, recreational use, and all other lawful purposes, and such rights shall not be denied or infringed by the state or any subdivision thereof..” N.E. Article 1 (Bill of Rights) Sec 1
Nevada: “Every citizen has the right to keep and bear arms for security and defense, for lawful hunting and recreational use and for other lawful purposes.” Nev. Const. art. I, § 11(1).
New Hampshire: “All persons have the right to keep and bear arms in defense of themselves, their families, their property, and the State.” N.H. Const. pt. I, art. 2a.
New Mexico: “No law shall abridge the right of the citizen to keep and bear arms for security and defense, for lawful hunting and recreational use and for other lawful purposes, but nothing herein shall be held to permit the carrying of concealed weapons.” N.M. Const. art. II, § 6.
North Carolina: “A well regulated militia being necessary to be the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; and, as standing armies in time of peace are dangerous to liberty, they shall not be maintained, and the military shall be kept under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power. Nothing herein shall justify the practice of carrying concealed weapons, or prevent the General Assembly from enacting penal statutes against that practice.” N.C. Const. art. I, § 30.
Ohio: “The people have the right to bear arms for their defense and security; but standing armies, in time of peace, are dangerous to liberty, and shall not be kept up; and the military shall be in strict subordination to the civil power.” Ohio Const. art. I, § 4.
Oklahoma: “The right of a citizen to keep and bear arms in defense of his home, person, or property, or in aid of the civil power, when thereunto legally summoned, shall never be prohibited; but nothing herein contained shall prevent the Legislature from regulating the carrying of weapons.” Okla. Const. art. II, § 26.
Oregon: “The people shall have the right to bear arms for the defence of themselves, and the State, but the Military shall be kept in strict subordination to the civil power.” Or. Const. art. I, § 27.
Pennsylvania: “The right of the citizens to bear arms in defence of themselves and the State shall not be questioned.” Pa. Const. art. I, § 21.
Rhode Island: “The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.” R.I. Const. art. I, § 22.
South Carolina: “A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. As, in times of peace,
armies are dangerous to liberty, they shall not be maintained without the consent of the General Assembly. The military power of the State shall always be held in subordination to the civil authority and be governed by it. No soldier shall in time of peace be quartered in any house without the consent of the owner nor in time of war but in the manner prescribed by law.” S.C. Const. art. I, § 20.
South Dakota: “The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the state shall not be denied.” S.D. Const. art. VI, § 24.
Tennessee: “That the citizens of this State have a right to keep and bear arms for their common defense; but the Legislature shall have power, by law, to regulate the wearing of arms with a view to prevent crime.” Tenn. Const. art. I, § 26.
Texas: “Every citizen shall have the right to keep and bear arms in the lawful defence of himself or the State; but the Legislature shall have power, by law, to regulate the wearing of arms, with a view to prevent crime.” Tex. Const. art. I, § 23.
Utah: “The people have the right to bear arms for their security and defense, but the Legislature may regulate the exercise of this right by law.” Utah Const. art. I, § 6.
Vermont: “That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and the State–and as standing armies in time of peace are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be kept up; and that the military should be kept under strict subordination to and governed by the civil power.” Vt. Const. Ch. I, art. 16.
Virginia: “That a well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defense of a free state, therefore, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; that standing armies, in time of peace, should be avoided as dangerous to liberty; and that in all cases the military should be under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power.” Va. Const. art. I, § 13.
Washington: “The right of the individual citizen to bear arms in defense of himself, or the state, shall not be impaired, but nothing in this section shall be construed as authorizing individuals or corporations to organize, maintain, or employ an armed body of men.” Wash. Const. art. I, § 24.
Wisconsin: “The people have the right to keep and bear arms for security,
defense, hunting, recreation or any other lawful purpose.”
Wyoming: “The right of citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and of the state shall not be denied.” Wyo. Const. art. I, § 24
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You may notice that some States banned CCW !
So tell me again about the research you have done!
Yes as far as the Federal Government!
Have you ever looked a State Constitutions?
Here I did some of your homework for you!
40 States have Constitutional Right to Bear Arms
Alabama: "That every citizen has a right to bear arms in defense of himself and the state." Ala. Const. art. I, § 26. Alaska: "A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free ...www.guntrustlawyer.com
40 States have Constitutional Right to Bear Arms
by David M. Goldman
Alabama: “That every citizen has a right to bear arms in defense of himself and the state.” Ala. Const. art. I, § 26.
Alaska: “A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.” Alaska Const. art. I, § 19.
Arizona: “The right of the individual citizen to bear arms in defense of himself or the State shall not be impaired, but nothing in this section shall be construed as authorizing individuals or corporations to organize, maintain, or employ an armed body of men.”
Ariz. Const. art. II, § 26.
Arkansas: “The citizens of this State shall have the right to keep and bear arms for their common defense.” Ark. Const. art. II, § 5.
Colorado: “The right of no person to keep and bear arms in defense of his home, person and property, or in aid of the civil power when thereto legally summoned, shall be called in question;
but nothing herein contained shall be construed to justify the practice of carrying concealed weapons.” Colo. Const. art. II, § 13.
Connecticut: “Every citizen has a right to bear arms in defense of himself and the state.” Conn. Const. art. I, § 15.
Deleware: Article One, Section 20 of the Delaware Constitution: “Section 20. A person has the right to keep and bear arms for the defense of self, family, home and State, and for hunting and recreational use.”
Florida: “The right of the people to keep and bear arms in defense of themselves and of the lawful authority of the state shall not be infringed, except that the manner of bearing arms may be regulated by law.” Fla. Const. art. I, § 8.
Georgia: “The right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed, but the General Assembly shall have the power to prescribe the manner in which arms may be borne.” Ga. Const. art. I, § 1, para. 5.
Hawaii: “A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.” Hawaii Const. art. I, § 15.
Idaho: “The people have the right to keep and bear arms, which right shall not be abridged; but this provision shall not prevent the passage of laws to govern the carrying of weapons concealed on the person nor prevent passage of legislation providing minimum sentences for crimes committed while in possession of a firearm, nor prevent the passage of legislation providing penalties for the possession of firearms by a convicted felon, nor prevent the passage of any legislation punishing the use of a firearm. No law shall impose licensure, registration or special taxation on the ownership or possession of firearms or ammunition. Nor shall any law permit the confiscation of firearms, except those actually used in the commission of a felony.” Idaho Const. art. I, § 11.
Illinois: “Subject only to the police power, the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.” Ill. Const. art. I, § 22.
Indiana: “The people shall have a right to bear arms, for the defense of themselves and the State.” Ind. Const. art. I, § 32.
Kansas: “The people have the right to bear arms for their defense and security; but standing armies, in time of peace,
are dangerous to liberty, and shall not be tolerated, and the military shall be in strict subordination to the civil power.” Kan. Const., Bill of Rights, § 4.
Kentucky: “All men are, by nature, free and equal,
and have certain inherent and inalienable rights, among which may be reckoned: … Seventh: The right to bear arms in defense of themselves and of the State, subject to the power of the General Assembly to enact laws to prevent persons from carrying concealed weapons.” Ky. Const. § I, para. 7.
Louisiana: “The right of each citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be abridged, but this provision shall not prevent the passage of laws to prohibit the carrying of weapons concealed on the person.” La. Const. art. I, § 11.
Maine: “Every citizen has a right to keep and bear arms for the common defense; and this right shall never be questioned.” Me. Const. art. I, § 16.
Massachusetts: “The people have a right to keep and bear arms for the common defense. And as, in times of peace, armies are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be maintained without the consent of the legislature; and the military power shall always be held in an exact subordination to the civil authority, and be governed by it.” Mass. Const. pt. I, art. XVII.
Michigan: “Every person has a right to keep or bear arms for the defense of himself and the State.” Mich. Const. art. I, § 6.
Mississippi: “The right of every citizen to keep and bear arms in defense of his home, person, or property, or in aid of the civil power where thereto legally summoned, shall not be called in question, but the legislature may regulate or forbid carrying concealed weapons.” Miss. Const. art. III, § 12.
Missouri: “That the right of every citizen to keep and bear arms in defense of his home, person and property, or when lawfully summoned in aid of the civil power, shall not be questioned;
but this shall not justify the wearing of concealed weapons.” Mo. Const. art. I, § 23.
Montana: “The right of any person to keep or bear arms in defense of his own home, person, and property, or in aid of the civil power when thereto legally summoned, shall not be called in question, but nothing herein contained shall be held to permit the carrying of concealed weapons.” Mont. Const. art. II, § 12.
Nebraska: “… and the right to keep and bear arms for security or defense of self, family, home and others, and for lawful common defense, hunting, recreational use, and all other lawful purposes, and such rights shall not be denied or infringed by the state or any subdivision thereof..” N.E. Article 1 (Bill of Rights) Sec 1
Nevada: “Every citizen has the right to keep and bear arms for security and defense, for lawful hunting and recreational use and for other lawful purposes.” Nev. Const. art. I, § 11(1).
New Hampshire: “All persons have the right to keep and bear arms in defense of themselves, their families, their property, and the State.” N.H. Const. pt. I, art. 2a.
New Mexico: “No law shall abridge the right of the citizen to keep and bear arms for security and defense, for lawful hunting and recreational use and for other lawful purposes, but nothing herein shall be held to permit the carrying of concealed weapons.” N.M. Const. art. II, § 6.
North Carolina: “A well regulated militia being necessary to be the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; and, as standing armies in time of peace are dangerous to liberty, they shall not be maintained, and the military shall be kept under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power. Nothing herein shall justify the practice of carrying concealed weapons, or prevent the General Assembly from enacting penal statutes against that practice.” N.C. Const. art. I, § 30.
Ohio: “The people have the right to bear arms for their defense and security; but standing armies, in time of peace, are dangerous to liberty, and shall not be kept up; and the military shall be in strict subordination to the civil power.” Ohio Const. art. I, § 4.
Oklahoma: “The right of a citizen to keep and bear arms in defense of his home, person, or property, or in aid of the civil power, when thereunto legally summoned, shall never be prohibited; but nothing herein contained shall prevent the Legislature from regulating the carrying of weapons.” Okla. Const. art. II, § 26.
Oregon: “The people shall have the right to bear arms for the defence of themselves, and the State, but the Military shall be kept in strict subordination to the civil power.” Or. Const. art. I, § 27.
Pennsylvania: “The right of the citizens to bear arms in defence of themselves and the State shall not be questioned.” Pa. Const. art. I, § 21.
Rhode Island: “The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.” R.I. Const. art. I, § 22.
South Carolina: “A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. As, in times of peace,
armies are dangerous to liberty, they shall not be maintained without the consent of the General Assembly. The military power of the State shall always be held in subordination to the civil authority and be governed by it. No soldier shall in time of peace be quartered in any house without the consent of the owner nor in time of war but in the manner prescribed by law.” S.C. Const. art. I, § 20.
South Dakota: “The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the state shall not be denied.” S.D. Const. art. VI, § 24.
Tennessee: “That the citizens of this State have a right to keep and bear arms for their common defense; but the Legislature shall have power, by law, to regulate the wearing of arms with a view to prevent crime.” Tenn. Const. art. I, § 26.
Texas: “Every citizen shall have the right to keep and bear arms in the lawful defence of himself or the State; but the Legislature shall have power, by law, to regulate the wearing of arms, with a view to prevent crime.” Tex. Const. art. I, § 23.
Utah: “The people have the right to bear arms for their security and defense, but the Legislature may regulate the exercise of this right by law.” Utah Const. art. I, § 6.
Vermont: “That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and the State–and as standing armies in time of peace are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be kept up; and that the military should be kept under strict subordination to and governed by the civil power.” Vt. Const. Ch. I, art. 16.
Virginia: “That a well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defense of a free state, therefore, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; that standing armies, in time of peace, should be avoided as dangerous to liberty; and that in all cases the military should be under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power.” Va. Const. art. I, § 13.
Washington: “The right of the individual citizen to bear arms in defense of himself, or the state, shall not be impaired, but nothing in this section shall be construed as authorizing individuals or corporations to organize, maintain, or employ an armed body of men.” Wash. Const. art. I, § 24.
Wisconsin: “The people have the right to keep and bear arms for security,
defense, hunting, recreation or any other lawful purpose.”
Wyoming: “The right of citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and of the state shall not be denied.” Wyo. Const. art. I, § 24
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You may notice that some States banned CCW !
So tell me again about the research you have done!
Oh so because states have infringed, that means infringements are ok in your book?
Again shall not be infringed.. i cant seem to find the part in there that says unless it's the states infringing then go for it....
Man King George would have loved your statist/loyalist attitude.
Also wait for it..
nortatoga
.338 Win Mag
Please show us documentation that the BOR's applied to the the states!!!!!!!!!!!!!
10th amendment.
Right of the people
This is simple even a statist like you should understand
Right of the people
This is simple even a statist like you should understand
nortatoga
.338 Win Mag
Tenth Amendment
Tenth Amendment Annotated
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
I guess that is not clear to you?
Right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
Oh wait hmm sure sounds like its prohibiting infringements
nortatoga
.338 Win Mag
What does the Tenth Amendment really mean?
- Tenth Amendment. noun. an amendment to the U.S. Constitution, ratified in 1791 as part of the Bill of Rights, guaranteeing to the states and the people those rights that are not delegated to the federal government by the Constitution.
Top not delegated to the federal government.
Guess what's already been "delegated"
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED..
nortatoga
.338 Win Mag
Sorry young man, But what was not delegated to the Federal Government was the ability to INFRINGE!
Please show were that was applied to the STATES!!!!!
So let me get this straight... the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed unless the states do so.
That is the 2nd amendment?
And weird you still wont answer my questions? How about I ask just one more,
Why wont you answer my questions.
nortatoga
.338 Win Mag
You are right I will not answer a ? that has nothing to do with this discussion at this time!!
nortatoga
.338 Win Mag
Was the Bill of Rights Meant to Apply to the States? | Tenth Amendment Center
Most people have never read the preamble to the Bill of Rights. In fact, a lot of people don’t even know it includes one.
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Was the Bill of Rights Meant to Apply to the States?
By: Mike Maharrey|Published on: Oct 13, 2014|Categories: Bill of Rights, Constitution 101, Eleven Years, Incorporation, Incorporation Doctrine
Was the Bill of Rights originally intended to apply to the state governments?
Some people argue that it was. They concoct some interesting arguments based on “rules of construction” or approach it through various philosophies of rights and liberty they attribute to the founders. But there simply exists no founding era evidence that Congress or the state ratifiers intended for the protections included in the Bill of Rights to bind state governments. In fact, doing so would essentially create a federal veto over state laws, a massive expansion of central government authority – the exact opposite of the stated purpose of including a bill of rights.
Most people have never read the preamble to the Bill of Rights. In fact, a lot of people don’t even know it includes one. The preamble makes the purpose of the Bill of Rights very clear.
The words “its powers” clearly refer back to the Constitution. The Bill of Rights was intended to “prevent misconstruction or abuse” of the Constitution’s powers as exercised through “the government” – the federal government. Notice the word government is not plural. The Bill of Rights makes no mention of state governments. In fact, the state ratifying conventions had no intention of restricting their state’s own powers. They already had state constitutions to do that job.
Imagine if somebody from England went before a British court and argued that the Second Amendment gave him the right to own a gun. The judge would laugh him out of the courtroom. The Bill of Rights does not govern in England. Despite the fact that an Englishman has an unalienable right to self-defense, the U.S. Bill of Rights does not prohibit the British government from infringing upon it. England exists as a separate political sphere. A state is no different. Although it has entered a union with the other states as defined by the Constitution, it remains an independent political society, giving up only the powers delegated. Absent specific delegation of power to the federal government authorizing it to police states and force them to abide by itsunderstanding of rights, the power simply does not exist.
Chief Justice John Marshall was an unapologetic advocate for national power, but he explains the limits of the Bill of Rights beautifully in his opinion in Barron v. Baltimore.
Interestingly, when James Madison introduced the Bill of Rights to Congress, he proposed that the equal right of conscience, freedom of the press and the right to a trial by jury should also apply to the states.
Congress explicitly rejected applying those particular amendments to the states, making it abundantly clear that the Bill of Rights was only intended to limit federal power.
Many will agree with this analysis, but argue that the 14th Amendment changed all that and incorporated the protections included in Bill of Rights on state governments.
Mike Maharrey
nortatoga
.338 Win Mag
I will say at the least you have kept this respectable!
What gun laws do you support.
Me personally, all gun laws are infringements and go against the 2nd amendment of the United States. How about any of you, let's here it, do you fully support the 2A or where do you draw the line and belive in infringements.
nygunforum.com
I mean you posting things to justify infringements is just that.. statist bullshit.
nortatoga
.338 Win Mag
Really is it Statist to understand History?
Is it Statist to understand that the BOR's did not apply to the States before the SCOTUS incorporated them to the STATES?
Lmao "right of the people" but doesnt apply to what the people that live in a state?
Again push you statist arguments somewhere else, but that's all they are statist arguments to justify how overly comfortable you are with infringements
So the bill of rights dont apply to the people in this country.
Buttt there is one specific right that mentions the people and how their RIGTH to KEEP and BEAR arms (that's a funny word they use for things like weapons) SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED....
unless the states infringe then they can infringe all they want (this must be an asterisk that I missed when looking over the constitution)
Buttt there is one specific right that mentions the people and how their RIGTH to KEEP and BEAR arms (that's a funny word they use for things like weapons) SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED....
unless the states infringe then they can infringe all they want (this must be an asterisk that I missed when looking over the constitution)
nortatoga
.338 Win Mag
And yea well statist got to state I guess