First range trip with the CMP M1
- Thread starter redtail
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GOYABEAN
.950 JDJ
nice 
David D
.40 S&W
Which version is the rifle? Looks like it might be a field grade with new wood? I have 5 M1's. 1 is a complete rebuild, 1 is a correct grade and the other 3 are service grades. Do you know what the chamber and muzzle measure? Take that baby out to 100 yards, bottom out the rear sight and come up between 11 and 12 clicks. That will get you in the ballpark. Back when I got my rifles from CMP, I think they were around 500 for a service grade and around 650 for a correct grade. It's my understanding that if you want a correct grade or higher, they are only available for bid. Good luck with your M1.
It is a service grade , Korea era H&R. I would have to look at the CMP paperwork for the exact gauge #s. I remember being very happy with them when I first got it. The stock is new from CMP , soon to get the BLO treatment.
Also have a WW2 era Springfield , has more character but is ejecting enblocks and remaining live rds. after firing the first 2-3 rounds. Changed out clip latch & spring , follower rod and op rod catch. Going to ask the CMP experts what is likely next to remedy her.
JohnD13
.357 mag
I have a WW 2 Springfield that was doing the same thing, ejecting the en-bloc with a couple rounds left in it. Tried the usual part changes, still did the same thing. Another M1 shooter asked what ammo I was using, which was/is the HXP Greek surplus. He suggested getting a few American made en-blocs, loaned me a couple, and they did not eject until empty. It seems there are some small differences between the blocs which may be the cause of the problem.
ProgSpear
.338 Win Mag
I bought a March 1942 Springfield privately, (mostly to honor Dad) and have found it to be one of my favorite guns to shoot. I only run M2 ball through it, and have never had a single FTF, FTE, or anything else. Seems as reliable as a Swiss watch. It's a Danish return with a VAR barrel, and I suspect it can shoot better than my old eyes can.
Oh, I missed this! Congrats! The Garand is probably the most entertaining rifle there is on the range. Until you look at the ammo bill.
96coal449
.308 Win
I love mine. Last I shot it I was using 150gr ball. 3'' clay at about 150 yrds (+/- a couple), with irons. Once I found point of aim after 3 shots it was quite easy to make the hits. The clay were placed on a shale berm which varied the distances. Also all shots were fired prone. Very fun rifle to shoot like @Podmonkey said .... then you total expended ammo ....
Looking forward to bringing mine back out again. And as @redtail said
Oh .... and FUAC!
Looking forward to bringing mine back out again. And as @redtail said
Oh .... and FUAC!
I am blessed to have a H&R CMP service grade that functions fine to compare with the older Springfield.
Seems the op rod on the Springer catches something somewhere with upward tension in the receiver channel , so I swapped the op rods.
The H&R rod eliminated the hang up in the problem rifle.
There is more play in the channel though.
The Springer rod in the H&R still did it but not as bad.
Tighter channel.
The questions I have are;
1. Has anyone else come across this?
2. Is it possible to dress, or fix the bad rod someway?
3. Good source for replacement oprod ?
Seems the op rod on the Springer catches something somewhere with upward tension in the receiver channel , so I swapped the op rods.
The H&R rod eliminated the hang up in the problem rifle.
There is more play in the channel though.
The Springer rod in the H&R still did it but not as bad.
Tighter channel.
The questions I have are;
1. Has anyone else come across this?
2. Is it possible to dress, or fix the bad rod someway?
3. Good source for replacement oprod ?
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ProgSpear
.338 Win Mag
I’m guessing the oprods are matched with the original receivers in the pics, with the SA receiver (with the crossbar sight lock) on the bottom and the H&R on top? If so, the lug on the SA oprod looks worn to me, but I’m nowhere’s close to an expert.
Maybe this would give some insight?
M1 Garand Troubleshooting
EDIT: after looking more closely at the pix, th bottom (SA?) rod seems to have a big burr on it towards the as pictured upper left corner of the lug.
Maybe this would give some insight?
M1 Garand Troubleshooting
EDIT: after looking more closely at the pix, th bottom (SA?) rod seems to have a big burr on it towards the as pictured upper left corner of the lug.
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That is correct,op rods are next to their respective receivers. I believe the lug tab is worn out of spec. , but I am no expert either.
David D
.40 S&W
There is a place that will recondition the op rod to mil specs. I can't remember the name off the top of my head. I had the buttons replaced on two of my op rods. Good op rod repair. I think the place is in Columbus Ohio. "Columbus Machine Works" look them up. You will be glad you did.
Thanks. I believe this is the place you speak of. I have sent an email to them.
Linked for future reference. Columbus Machine Works, Inc. - M1-Garand Op Rod Repair / M1 Garand GasCylinder Restoration
There is a lot of open source info on these old warhorses out there.
Found specs.
here-> also for future reference. M1 Garand Part Inspection
