FPC Sues New York to Strike Down Ban on Firearm Carry by Non-Residents

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Uzi said:
I wish these organizations would focus on getting rid of the fucking SAFE ACT as a priority over everything else that very few people give a shit about right now. It's been over a fucking decade now.
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they did get rid of it with the Bruin case .. ;)

But now we got the Concealed Carry Improvement Act ..
 
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Uzi said:
I wish these organizations would focus on getting rid of the fucking SAFE ACT as a priority over everything else that very few people give a shit about right now. It's been over a fucking decade now.
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I don`t know how old YOU are @Uzi , but at my age, i`ll never live long enough to see the freedoms we once had in NYS. I`ll bet they`ll appeal anything that they get hit with. They don`t even give a phuck what the SCOTUS says or does... we`ve already seen THAT bullsh!t with how Bruen worked out for us. They`ll just raise the taxes so they can continue to fight the people. My plan is to leave this shithole as soon as my wife retires. We`re counting down the last few months. Hopefully i`ll live long enough to get my wife settled down somewhere else better, a place where she will be free of tyrants and NY communist`s. FNY!
 
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Acer-m14 said:
they did get rid of it with the Bruin case .. ;)

But now we got the Concealed Carry Improvement Act ..
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I do believe that the SAFE-ACT is still alive and well. All the POS tyrants did was throw a temper tantrum and added the CCIA to it.
 
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Baby steps.

They file cases over stuff they think they can win, or that will lead to further victories.

The commies are shit, and often they look like morons, but they don't give up. If we ever get to the point where we feel like we won, we'll have to keep fighting just as hard not to go backwards.
 
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What they should be doing is suing to end the entire pistol permitting scheme entirely.
It's an arms ban case... complete ban on all pistols unless given special permission by the .gov (after jumping through hoops and paying a ton of money to the State).
You should NEVER have to beg the State for permission to exercise a Right.

once the whole un-Constitutional scheme is gone then non-residents would be able to carry here.
 
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you'all are fighting the wrong thing. You should be fighting to get NYC to secede from the state, and make them there own shithole.

right now, the only thing making NY a shithole is the NY city. Get rid of that, and the Empire state can be great again
 
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Jmac00 said:
you'all are fighting the wrong thing. You should be fighting to get NYC to secede from the state, and make them there own shithole.

right now, the only thing making NY a shithole is the NY city. Get rid of that, and the Empire state can be great again
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I`ve said the same thing for decades. It all fell on deaf ears. Nobody gives a shit. The upstate people obviously don`t care. Now that the city rats have festered up into upstate, you`ll never get them out. They are buying up everything in sight up here. Blame the internet for the cancer that has spread into upstate. They moved out of the cities and came upstate because they can now work from home right on the internet. As we say.... blame the ignorance of people and the internet.
 
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Jmac00 said:
you'all are fighting the wrong thing. You should be fighting to get NYC to secede from the state, and make them there own shithole.

right now, the only thing making NY a shithole is the NY city. Get rid of that, and the Empire state can be great again
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Making the city secede from upstate will never happen.

What WILL happen, is NY will be eliminated soon, then the whole state WILL, become NYC.
 
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JunkBoxFull said:
Making the city secede from upstate will never happen.

What WILL happen, is NY will be eliminated soon, then the whole state WILL, become NYC.
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I was talking to someone a while back that lives in the U.S. they literally thought NYC was the whole state. I told them, it's literally in the name, NY City, and NY state,

But yes, the city will never secede from the state.
 
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urjustamemory said:
I was talking to someone a while back that lives in the U.S. they literally thought NYC was the whole state. I told them, it's literally in the name, NY City, and NY state,

But yes, the city will never secede from the state.
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When i was alot younger, and had moved out of NY (upstate by the way) for a brief time, i was shocked at how many people thought NY state was just NYC. They always commented back to me after i told them i came from NY, they replied every time with, "oh, so you`re from the big apple"

Correct..... NYC has it`s claws fully dug in to upstate.
My wife an i are leaving for good when she retires in a few months. Nothing to hold us here anymore.
 
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Acer-m14 said:
they did get rid of it with the Bruin case .. ;)

But now we got the Concealed Carry Improvement Act ..
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Doesn't matter what SCOTUS rules, until some public officials actually suffer consequences they won't give a fuck.

"Oh, we can't enforce that law anymore ? OK, we passed a new one, we just moved a comma. We'll enforce it for the next 5 years until you tell us to stop and we need to make some new trivial change".

People need to go to prison for that shit before it will ever stop.
 
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spat said:
Doesn't matter what SCOTUS rules, until some public officials actually suffer consequences they won't give a fuck.

"Oh, we can't enforce that law anymore ? OK, we passed a new one, we just moved a comma. We'll enforce it for the next 5 years until you tell us to stop and we need to make some new trivial change".

People need to go to prison for that shit before it will ever stop.
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A great case........................why not?

Just because NYS says you have to have NO need for a pistol, EVER............. does not mean the person from another state does not...............illegal aliens abound.

Based upon current NYS theory, Syrup needs to go after every state that allows pistol ownership-- with just a NICS check..........OOPS, SHE TRIED TOO......... ON GHOST GUN RECEIVERS, AND MEAN MAG LOCKS, ANYWAY.

Research is indisputable that Ghosts have been around for centuries.

Reciprocity Clause, 2nd Amendment, and Interstate Commerce Clause are in play here.

NYS is in a state of Lawless insurrection, with Bragg, Engoron, Merchan, James Hochul, the Safe Act, Ammo Act, Semi Auto Act, Others, Act.............sounds like Bejing is calling the shots here.
 
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Jmac00 said:
you'all are fighting the wrong thing. You should be fighting to get NYC to secede from the state, and make them there own shithole.

right now, the only thing making NY a shithole is the NY city. Get rid of that, and the Empire state can be great again
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And that would give the Democrats 2 more Senators, Then DC and Puerto Rice would also be come States 4 more Democratic Senators!
 
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JunkBoxFull said:
When i was alot younger, and had moved out of NY (upstate by the way) for a brief time, i was shocked at how many people thought NY state was just NYC. They always commented back to me after i told them i came from NY, they replied every time with, "oh, so you`re from the big apple"

Correct..... NYC has it`s claws fully dug in to upstate.
My wife an i are leaving for good when she retires in a few months. Nothing to hold us here anymore.
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I live and work in the Buffalo region, and some companies I call think we are located in one of the 5 boroughs. :oops:

I've also gotten people to think Buffalo was in Ohio too. (Some people need a geography class or two... lol)

Helllllllooooooo, there's more to NY than NYC.
 
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spat said:
What part of the SAFE act comports with "text and tradition" ?

SAFE is obviously incompatible with the Bruen ruling, but NY won't let that stop them.
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I mean I guess but no law suits have challenged the parts of the safe act vs this. The Brien ruling doesn’t nullify all laws that stand in its way and they need to be brought before the courts to be struck down. The CCIA stands in the face of Bruen as well it were still dealing with and stuck with that crap too
 
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Saltwater60 said:
The Brien ruling doesn’t nullify all laws that stand in its way and they need to be brought before the courts to be struck down.
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This is a significant part of the problem.
Laws that are repugnant to the Constitution should be immediately null and void.
Instead We The People must sue to have the laws nullified at great expense to ourselves in time and money.
Corrupt politicians, like those in New York, can pass un-Constitutional laws that greatly affect the lives of American citizens caught behind the NY border. When/IF those laws are finally thrown out there are no repercussions for the corrupt politicians. They are free to do the same damn thing over and over and over again.
 
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Grimscale said:
This is a significant part of the problem.
Laws that are repugnant to the Constitution should be immediately null and void.
Instead We The People must sue to have the laws nullified at great expense to ourselves in time and money.
Corrupt politicians, like those in New York, can pass un-Constitutional laws that greatly affect the lives of American citizens caught behind the NY border. When/IF those laws are finally thrown out there are no repercussions for the corrupt politicians. They are free to do the same damn thing over and over and over again.
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100% agree with you. And if a law is made that defies those ruling such as Bruen when we win in court the politicians that passed it should be responsible personally for all costs and punitive damages to all those effected. So all costs with passing the law, printing the pages, legal fees, court costs and $5,000 per month per person impacted negatively. The issue is they have no repercussions so they do as they please
 
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