That_FNG
.308 Win
Holy shit. The balls on them. This goes after everything. If this succeeds it would be like dropping a tactical nuke on nyc/nys conceal carry restrictions/laws/everything
Frey VS nyc/nys
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Phazer
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[edited: After reading all plaintiff identifications]
I apparently did not read all of the plaintiff identification statements.
It appears that Mr. and Mrs. Frey, Mr. Sappe, and Mr. Cheng are putting it all on the line.
They are ALL stating their intent to violate the unconstitutional statute.
They are ALL placing themselves at risk of arrest.
When they have a legal defense fund established, we will all need to support them all.
From the filing (DAMN!)
I apparently did not read all of the plaintiff identification statements.
It appears that Mr. and Mrs. Frey, Mr. Sappe, and Mr. Cheng are putting it all on the line.
They are ALL stating their intent to violate the unconstitutional statute.
They are ALL placing themselves at risk of arrest.
When they have a legal defense fund established, we will all need to support them all.
From the filing (DAMN!)
Beginning today, Mr. Frey intends to carry his handgun open and exposed on his person for self-defense everywhere he goes, including New York City, every day that he does not otherwise carry his handgun concealed.
Beginning today, Mrs. Frey intends to carry her handgun open and exposed on her person for self-defense everywhere she goes, including New York City, every day that she does not otherwise carry her handgun concealed.
Beginning today, Mr. Sappe intends to carry his handgun open and exposed on his person for self-defense everywhere he goes, including New York City, every day that he does not otherwise carry his handgun concealed.
Mr. Cheng intends to continue carrying his handgun in New York City under his NYC concealed carry license while traveling within the Times Square area, to restaurants (that also happen to be licensed by the alcohol and beverage authority), on private and commercial property, in stores and shops, and on sidewalks near and next to areas that are now deemed “sensitive” and/or “restricted".
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We have some folk heros ready to jump on the grenade
Im halfway through reading and I love this challenge. This might be my favorite one yet. This is like a tactical nuke. This is hochuls worst fear.
Im halfway through reading and I love this challenge. This might be my favorite one yet. This is like a tactical nuke. This is hochuls worst fear.
I will donate to this guys defense.
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
I'm 9 pages in and love every word!
Carlos Hathcock
.450/400 Nitro Ex
I suspect his arrest will be televised on the MSM this evening.
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
I’ll give him my left but because he’s got more balls than I do. There are few hero’s in this world, but this guy is one of them.
That_FNG
.308 Win
A donations page for him seems to have been set up. I have never done any of these types of donations so maybe someone with more experience can verify this is legit before we’ll just start sending money. Trust but verify as I say.
Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Sounds great, wonder if they will give him standing prior to actually being arrested??? But this would be awesome to be heard.
Apparently they don't need to have actually been arrested if govt says they will enforce law see beginning paragraph 137
Egret-II
.40 S&W
Let's just hope this poor fella doesnt get shot for open carry. You know what they say. A dead person can't sue..
Jsmegs77
.308 Win
I just read through the whole thing. Wow, they are definitely swinging for the fences with this filing. And, as a lifelong practitioner of the English language, to my reading they are factually correct in every assertion made.
Of course, as NYS and the larger judicial system are impossibly corrupt, the plaintiffs will be arrested, the judge will declare “No standing” and Hochul et al will trumpet that another dangerous challenge to their little fiefdom has been squashed and the serfs have been reminded of their place in society, namely on the bottom of their supposed master’s shoe.
Of course, as NYS and the larger judicial system are impossibly corrupt, the plaintiffs will be arrested, the judge will declare “No standing” and Hochul et al will trumpet that another dangerous challenge to their little fiefdom has been squashed and the serfs have been reminded of their place in society, namely on the bottom of their supposed master’s shoe.
Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Its really sad how far our country has fallen. But to the leftist "progressives" society is "evolving" and changing for the better. There was an old movie called "Gattica" where every person had to be an engineered birth, no more natural births allowed. I dont remeber the entire premise of the movie, but it was another predictor of the future.
The left wont be happy until they control EVERY aspect of human life, the way a farmer regulates his cattle.
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maverick52
.223 Rem
Mr Frey is like a modern day William Wallace. And Mrs Frey too. God bless them both! Hochul and James may send the CPS to take their kids on top of arresting them. Gotta pray for this couple and support them in any way we can.
Deplorable Me
.700 Nitro Express
Prepare for a summary execution by the government in the name of public safety.
Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
I need to know if such a site has been endorsed by the Frey family, Mr. Cheng, and Mr. Sappe, or their verified legal counsel.
Once such verification is available, they'll have my money.
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Phazer
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Yes, that is exactly the part that to which I was referring.
I pray that the Freys, Mr. Cheng, and Mr. Sappe will not be shot during their righteous demonstration and exercise of their constitutionally-protected second amendment rights.
I do not have these patriots' courage. I am thus compelled to support them fiscally.
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CaliberPlus
.45 acp
I did not find the attorneys involved, looking quickly. Kudos to all of them. Every now and then there is a flicker of hope. I don't know how to check the legitimacy of the financial donation, please post if someone does confirm.
Jsmegs77
.308 Win
Last page of the PDF listed in the first post contains the lawyer’s information.
A well respected local law firm.
Legal Representation – Advocacy - Attorney
Bellantoni Law offers legal representation and advocacy to clients who seek to protect their civil rights. Our attorneys are qualified and extend advocacy support whenever you need it. With more than 15 years of legal experience we provide comprehensive and personal attention to all clients...
www.bellantoni-law.com
Phazer
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If the plaintiffs are arrested, we'll get faces and names attached to this un-American statute as they get to exercise their right to a speedy trial.
If they are not arrested, they will prove that either concealed-is-concealed or the emperor has no clothes.
If they are not arrested, they will prove that either concealed-is-concealed or the emperor has no clothes.
That_FNG
.308 Win
You
i feel like they are calling NYS’s bluff out. By that I mean it seems with most violations of things like the SafeAct and other gun control laws it seems that it always done as an add on charge and almost never as a stand alone charge. If it is a stand alone charge often it seems NYS aims to plea bargain down so the case never sees the light of day. It almost seems like previously NYS has puffed out its chest and bluffed in regards to gun control. Now with this the plaintiffs are calling out NYS and saying they specifically intend to break the unjust laws, like they are poking nys in the eye and saying “come and get us”. If nys goes after them then nys risks that these laws are thrown out in court or nullified by a jury. If nys does not go after them then it shows the world that nys is a paper tiger in regards to enforcement and only emboldens the rest of the law abiding population to do as they have done. What an interesting strategy.
nortatoga
.338 Win Mag
NYS is not going to want to open this can of worms ( Open Carry ) they can not win!
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
She’s so cocky she just might.
nortatoga
.338 Win Mag
History, Text and Tradition, Open Carry is the true Constitutional protected 2A right..
MothMan
.338 Win Mag
The Hochul mantra runs deep in WNY. 
byron
.308 Win
right she can't win this one there is no law against it. I'm really surprised that that there is not one. 50 years ago I open carried a lot and my friends all did. nobody ever said anything or thought twice about it
It is illegal to possess an unregistered handgun. Open carry is not addressed in New York state law, although a New York Pistol License (NYPL) i
That_FNG
.308 Win
I have said before, if open carry is illegal in NYS, show me the sections of law which given an exemption for security guards and law enforcement to open carry.