Fun little 9mm / .38 / .357mag comparison
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I do have to say it opened up my mind on 9mm revolvers. I thought the gap would have more of an effect and figured 9mm revolvers were just dumb, now not so much
S&W Fan
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Great Video . I want one of their tee shirts
S&W Fan
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S&W actually does already make a 9mm snubnose revolver. Model 940
S&W Fan
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Looking on S&W’s web site it seems they have discontinued the mod. 940. They do have a performance Ctr. 9mm still available. Mod. 986
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
What, no .40? Lol.Everyone knows a .40 would have no problem being shot from a pocket. The raw power of the round would have simply blown his clothing clean off so there would be no chance of jamming.
As far as the pressing the muzzle into your attacker, it wouldn't matter if the gun jammed because just the weight of the .40 caliber bullet alone would cause internal bleeding and most certainly knock the wind out of him.
Good video.
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
Are there any 9mm revolvers that don't require moon clips?
I think he is saying in the airweight 11oz model
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No, 9mm is a rimless cartridge.
gun_slinger_boy
.338 Win Mag
Everyone knows a .40 would have no problem being shot from a pocket. The raw power of the round would have simply blown his clothing clean off so there would be no chance of jamming.
As far as the pressing the muzzle into your attacker, it wouldn't matter if the gun jammed because just the weight of the .40 caliber bullet alone would cause internal bleeding and most certainly knock the wind out of him.
Good video.
Yeah but a 45 would have blown his jacket off then blown the person getting shots jacket off and then put his jacket on them. It would be a confusing scene when the cops showed up.
you dont exactly need moon clips, but the ejector wont work as well / pretty much at all
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
That's what I figured. I'm no engineer but I'm surprised no one has designed an ejection star that rotates from a resting position to a position that grabs where a moon clip grabs as you depress the ejection plunger. Or even one that you could quickly rotate yourself to engage the cartridge casings.
im sure people have looked at it and decided the extensive engineering and machining and timing isnt worth the added cost in the end especially now with revolvers (not say big bore hunting woods boys) at their sunset for defensive use
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
Very true. It would be a different scene if revolvers were more widely used. Granted, I don't really understand how things end up adding cost and how much cost in production, but it just seems like it wouldn't have to be very complex. What about simply adding a cam to the ejection plunger rod with a slightly twisted corresponding groove in the cylinder. The cam follows the groove as the plunger is depressed causing the star to rotate just enough to engage the casing. The star and plunger then returns to it's default position when released.
I have been yelling for S&W to make a 9mm 340 for a long time. 
Shooting 357 out of that 340 PD is ridicules, and I could tell stories...
The j-frame is a great tool now that MAC gave it some love the tactical commandos just might give revolvers a little respect.
Shooting 357 out of that 340 PD is ridicules, and I could tell stories...
The j-frame is a great tool now that MAC gave it some love the tactical commandos just might give revolvers a little respect.
i loved my Ruger LCR in .357mag, but i also only carried it with .38sp +p, and the added weight of the .357 version over the standard .38 helped keep it a nice fun shooting gun (and gave me the chance to have some fun with full house .357mag at the range dicking around) but that was 17oz-18oz vs the 11oz of the PD, so yea i could only imagine what .357 out of that would be like.
but i got rid of my LCR since it didnt get carried much and did some research on .38 vs 9mm and figured if i wanted something that size again (have been looking since i have taken up jogging and sadly need a baby gun, ok want, for when on my run) i would go with a small 9mm due to ammo capacity and ballistics are equal or better
but i got rid of my LCR since it didnt get carried much and did some research on .38 vs 9mm and figured if i wanted something that size again (have been looking since i have taken up jogging and sadly need a baby gun, ok want, for when on my run) i would go with a small 9mm due to ammo capacity and ballistics are equal or better
MAC mentioned Paul Harrell and this is his test on the 357 vs 38 much different result. I believe the magnum is more powerful that than 38 and 9mm in any gun but imo the magnum is un-shootable in the 340PD. A 9mm 340PD would be the perfect in between and with the 9mm ammo options form low recoil to +p everyone could be happy. Not to mention ammo compatibility with other pistols. When I friend had the 340 PD we would challenge people at the range to shoot 5 magnum loads, few shot more than 2. The only way I would describe shooting it was to put your hand on a steal table and hit it with a hammer. A a lot of guys say its not too bad, but remember most of the available magnum loads are watered down.
Here is Pauls vid.
Here is Pauls vid.
MikeyCNY
6.5 Creedmoor
Interesting video, I always wondered about the comparisons.
I have a few revolvers, because it just seems like I'm supposed to have both semi-auto and revolver as a gun-owner.. but I don't find them fun to shoot - even my full-size Ruger GP100 in .357 (or .38 Special) is painful to shoot. I've been tempted to sell it to fund another gun but... Dunno, part of me still thinks I should own it. (just like a 1911, though I still have yet to get a Glock)
Guardian Grip™ is a neat idea for smaller framed revolvers..
I have a few revolvers, because it just seems like I'm supposed to have both semi-auto and revolver as a gun-owner.. but I don't find them fun to shoot - even my full-size Ruger GP100 in .357 (or .38 Special) is painful to shoot. I've been tempted to sell it to fund another gun but... Dunno, part of me still thinks I should own it. (just like a 1911, though I still have yet to get a Glock)
Guardian Grip™ is a neat idea for smaller framed revolvers..
Used to shoot 38 supers out of my 357 Mag the semi rim would catch the ejector most of the time. Waiting for them to do a rimmed 9mm like they did the 45 Auto rim a while back.
Got to handle Ruger’s new 10mm while I was in TX it is no 610 but it is a nice revolver. I think I will order one for my collection. Still need to pick up a 5 inch 625.
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Nothing that I have seen compares to the 10mm 610’s !
The 5” mod. 625’s are super nice guns. The 625 models of 1988 & 89 are highly sought after. I believe they made the 625’s up to about 06.
I have two 4” 625’s , both in .45acp a mod. 25-2 in .45acp and a 25-9 in .45 colt. All excellent shooters.
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Yeah I kick myself for not picking up a 5” 625 when I had the chance. I may have to settle for a 4 inch.
MikeyCNY
6.5 Creedmoor
I forgot to say I suddenly have a weird attraction to a 9mm revolver... #9mmAllTheThings
Right like part if me is kinda wanting one
Charter Arms makes a 9mm, 40, and 45 acp revolver called the pitbull. No moon clips required. I looked into these years ago, but Charter has been plagued with quality issues for years and that ended my interest
HighlandLofts
6.5 Creedmoor
I had a blued Ruger Blackhawk with the 357 & 9mm cylinders. I gave it to my second son a few years ago. I will be buying another in stainless.
When Buds Guns has them in stock they are $666.
No moon clips, they are a fun gun to shoot..
When Buds Guns has them in stock they are $666.
No moon clips, they are a fun gun to shoot..
gun_slinger_boy
.338 Win Mag
Interesting. What is the barrel slugged at?
HighlandLofts
6.5 Creedmoor
They have a 5.5" barrel. Single action only. The stailess is a hundred dollars more then the blued version.
Most of my handguns are stainless. There is a shit load of them listed on gun broker.
Buds guns has free shipping which will save you $35. Plus they have a three month lay away which is nice. Most of my gun purchases are threw lay away.
I have a $1,500 T/C Encore handgun with eight barrels on lay away right now at a local pawn shop,.they have a twelve month pay off option. I have been paying a $100 a month on it. Once I get it down to $300 or so I will pick it up.
Most of my handguns are stainless. There is a shit load of them listed on gun broker.
Buds guns has free shipping which will save you $35. Plus they have a three month lay away which is nice. Most of my gun purchases are threw lay away.
I have a $1,500 T/C Encore handgun with eight barrels on lay away right now at a local pawn shop,.they have a twelve month pay off option. I have been paying a $100 a month on it. Once I get it down to $300 or so I will pick it up.