Good news from the Commonwealth of Virginia

[ExMember_4526]

Organizing, mobilizing & using the same methodology against them (“Grabbers”), that they use against us would be a great start!

@Marine Cpl Has a study been done to determine to what extent people on this forum support regulations? Maybe that’s also part of a good starting point; educating people on “our side” as to how these regulations don’t achieve what they claim to, and only impede on those who wish to have access to these implements for defense of life & property?

 

[Uzi]

Them not passing these assault weapon bans and stuff that would enrage gun owners enough for 2.0 rally in my opinion is actually one of the worst outcomes that I can think of. This keeps the game going smoothly now without any struggle and allows the 100% success rate of little bites to be taken out of the 2A, not just in VA, but all over the country.

This is not a win, this means we took a step backwards right where we were. Instead of fighting fire with an extinguisher, the fire is again fueled with a perfect fuel and air ratio of gasoline. Instead of letting the AWB get to higher courts, they continue on and get a handful of other "not as bad, I can live with that I guess" laws passed without any fight whatsoever. So many blind idiots celebrating in their little bubbles that will never see the important picture.

So what can we expect in the future? A 100% guarantee of more restrictive gun laws built up slowly in the untied states without any equal resistance to stop them. Why is this? because the morons that think their rally saved the day are going to focus their attention back on other things because they can keep their AR-15's still.

 

[ExMember_4526]

Them not passing these assault weapon bans and stuff that would enrage gun owners enough for 2.0 rally in my opinion is actually one of the worst outcomes that I can think of. This keeps the game going smoothly now without any struggle and allows the 100% success rate of little bites to be taken out of the 2A, not just in VA, but all over the country.

This is not a win, this means we took a step backwards right where we were. Instead of fighting fire with an extinguisher, the fire is again fueled with a perfect fuel and air ratio of gasoline. Instead of letting the AWB get to higher courts, they continue on and get a handful of other "not as bad, I can live with that I guess" laws passed without any fight whatsoever. So many blind idiots celebrating in their little bubbles that will never see the important picture.

So what can we expect in the future? A 100% guarantee of more restrictive gun laws built up slowly in the untied states without any equal resistance to stop them. Why is this? because the morons that think their rally saved the day are going to focus their attention back on other things because they can keep their AR-15's still.

• Sir, you very much get it!

• Being that enough of us here see the “bigger picture” (in spite of the “Fuddery” present), why can’t we get things done like the “Grabbers” do?

• It’s not like most of the population is actively pushing for the regulations, they’re indifferent or “go along” with it.

• It’s a minority that’s actively getting infringements done!

• Why can’t enough of us do the same, go on the offensive & push for deregulation?

 

[stokes]

More importantly, what does my attendance have to do with the point I was making?

I was curious because I've seen you ask this more than once.

So, where's the support for protesting the NY gun laws from the people of VA?

It seems like you think they in Va have some obligation to NY so I was curious if you had gone down there.

 

[Marine Cpl]

Organizing, mobilizing & using the same methodology against them (“Grabbers”), that they use against us would be a great start!

@Marine Cpl Has a study been done to determine to what extent people on this forum support regulations? Maybe that’s also part of a good starting point; educating people on “our side” as to how these regulations don’t achieve what they claim to, and only impede on those who wish to have access to these implements for defense of life & property?

Nope. No study. I suppose a separate thread could be created asking if you support the Brady Act and why? I’m guessing people wouldn’t be genuine anyway.

As far as education people, some of us have tried that. I for one always tell people that free men released from prison should have rights. Because if we allow their rights to be violated, it spills into our rights being violated.

What ends up happening is I’m the asshole and when they cannot dispute what I’m saying, they put me on ignore, say that I’m derailing threads, claim that I want a high post count, claim that I have PTSD, ect.

Anything to take away and deflect from the point at hand that they can no longer defend against with facts.

 

[libertysnake]

It seems like you think they in Va have some obligation to NY so I was curious if you had gone down there.

NYers did go there for the rally. I don't have to specifically be there to want them to reciprocate with NY rallies.

 

[Saltwater60]

This is a great win for now. It shows the liberals have some sense and the spread will hopefully stop or be slowed down for now.

 

[IrishMick]

This was not a win. With several blows landed via other infringing laws, VA gun owners survived the round. The judges award the round to the VA.GOV. Not getting KO'd is not winning the fight .

 

[ExMember_4526]

This was not a win. With several blows landed via other infringing laws, VA gun owners survived the round. The judges award the round to the VA.GOV. Not getting KO'd is not winning the fight .

Exactly! VA gun owners “survived” this round severely wounded!

@Saltwater60

• The “Liberals” (Statists) aren’t going to stop!

• This is not something that just ends!

• Every move they make is calculated.

• They propose policies knowing full well that they won’t get “everything“. Once they achieve what they can, they analyze how to be even more effective with the next move.

• Look at the history of infringements over the last hundred years. It’s not pretty.

• If we don’t mobilize and go on the offensive, utilizing all the tactics of the “Grabbers”, it’s going to continuously get a lot worse! I mean a lot worse!

 

[ExMember_4526]

If you want an idea about how bad the situation has gotten over the last 100 years, let me “paint” you a “picture”. Let’s pretend these infringements never happened:

- I go into Walmart to buy baby wipes, spring water, M240B, 11.5” AR variant with that extra “click” on the selector switch & a 1,000 round case of ammo.

- The guy behind me on line (at the cashier) looks at the items in my cart & thinks: “This is a 10 item or less line, that guy better have less than 10 items, these people are always pulling crap... ahh, I forgot to get ammo, I’m running low”

- I pay and thank the cashier and go home.

- Six months later a friend of mine, who is on a budget, wants to buy a M240B. I sell him then and there what is at that point my used M240B for a decent price. He goes home happy. I go out and buy a new M240B. No FFL, no “background check”, no NFA, just buy and sell it in the same way I would other unregulated products.

 

[Deplorable Me]

If you want an idea about how bad the situation has gotten over the last 100 years, let me “paint” you a “picture”. Let’s pretend these infringements never happened:

- I go into Walmart to buy baby wipes, spring water, M240B, 11.5” AR variant with that extra “click” on the selector switch & a 1,000 round case of ammo.

- The guy behind me on line (at the cashier) looks at the items in my cart & thinks: “This is a 10 item or less line, that guy better have less than 10 items, these people are always pulling crap... ahh, I forgot to get ammo, I’m running low”

- I pay and thank the cashier and go home.

- Six months later a friend of mine, who is on a budget, wants to buy a M240B. I sell him then and there what is at that point my used M240B for a decent price. He goes home happy. I go out and buy a new M240B. No FFL, no “background check”, no NFA, just buy and sell it in the same way I would other unregulated products.

For us married guys we'd have to get an approval note from our wives and pick up Tampons while we're there.

 

[ExMember_4526]

Ha, I’m married. I know! You just slip it in the house when she’s not around. If she ever comes across it & asks if it’s new, just say: “What? The M240B? You know how long I’ve had that?” Then mumble and quickly change the topic.

 

[1075tech]

My wife doesn't even ask any more. She did come into my "office" a few weeks ago. "Where's my 22?" she asks as she walks in "the room". "Second on the left" I tell her. She turns on the light, "It's like an armory in here!"

 

[Robin]

Kinda like home brewing. After a while she has no idea and stops asking.
Robin