GOP Push Underway To Change Safe Act ?
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Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Unless Cuomo goes, it'll never be signed.
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
Call, write, email your Rep's and demand they support this effort, it does make a difference!!!!!! If we don't who will, call friends and family. cumo will sign it if he thinks in his long term political interest. This is the best chance we have had since this onerous, unconstitutional morass sat on the desk of that fool Skretny!!!! GET ON BOARD OR STOP BITCHING!!!
Robin
Robin
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
S
stuck in ny
Guest
The Republicans are actually doing something instead of "declaring opposition" and pointless resolutions? FUAC
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
Yeah, thats the defeatist attitude I expect from some here. Ask your union for some help.See post 2.
Robin
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Come on now. Leave the Unions out of it. We are all friends here. I'm just stating the obvious.
You don't actually think Andy boy is going to think that rescinding his baby to the white house is a good idea?
Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Just like congressional Republicans that passed 6 bills to repeal Obamacare when they knew the President would veto them. Now that they're in the majority...NOTHING!
All talk, no action...and they know it.
Deplorable Me
.700 Nitro Express
Cuomo is like a constipated turd in the sphincter, it ain't gonna pass by him.
libertysnake
.338 Win Mag
Unions are voting democrat. Unions are part of the problem here for a SAFE act repeal.
masterswimmer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Any reference to a bill # that we can direct our assemblyman and state senators to?
GOYABEAN
.950 JDJ
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
Hey, you never know. The more it gets brought up and talked about, the more likely it or something like it will come to pass.
S
stuck in ny
Guest
Cuomo has its own animated series??!!
RINOs aren't dumb. They're deploying the same tactic their Congressional colleagues did when they spoke of repealing and replacing Obamacare when Obama was in office.
All pomp and circumstance with NO chance of the legislation passing.
Even if they COULD pass a Safe Act reform bill....they won't. Deep down, they support it. It gives them a ready made topic to run on at election time.
Same could be said for the NRA and SCOPE opposition to Unsafe. If there wasn't an Unsafe....there would be NO reason to solicit membership dues and "urgent donations."
Our ONLY shot to rid ourselves of this legislation is through SCOTUS.
All pomp and circumstance with NO chance of the legislation passing.
Even if they COULD pass a Safe Act reform bill....they won't. Deep down, they support it. It gives them a ready made topic to run on at election time.
Same could be said for the NRA and SCOPE opposition to Unsafe. If there wasn't an Unsafe....there would be NO reason to solicit membership dues and "urgent donations."
Our ONLY shot to rid ourselves of this legislation is through SCOTUS.
Bigfoot
.475 A&M Magnum
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Madmallard
.223 Rem
Just remember Flanagan proudly voted for unSAFE and is FUAC's hand picked successor to Skelos and Jeff Klein proudly introduced it into the Senate. Don't want to sound defeatist but if it passes the Senate it won't even get a cursory look in the assembly.
That would be super. But at this point It would take a complete repeal of "94 style" AWB, the Sullivan Act and the creation of a timely, shall issue CCW permit process before I'd be willing to move back. So basically never, I'm not willing to give up anything that PA offers 2A wise.
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
You nay sayers that do nothing are a huge part of the reason this state is in the shits! Go fuck your selves and quit bitchin.
Robin
Robin
Huh, I always figured NYC was the reason the state was in the shits.
ProgSpear
.338 Win Mag
I too believe the analysis that the unSAFE act will never go away until Andy is gone and/or SCOTUS stomps HARD on CA, NY, 4th circuit and 9th circuit.
I also think the real purpose of these bills is to elevate and publicize the civil rights injustice the proggies have perpetrated on us, so it becomes visible in the eyes of the general public. The bastards trying to subjugate us have been working on this project for over 100 years. We have to adopt the same long view. I don't doubt that there are a number of RINO's that think they are just playing us for our next vote, but we have to think farther out than just the next election, and even if they inadvertently further our cause, it's all good.
I also think the real purpose of these bills is to elevate and publicize the civil rights injustice the proggies have perpetrated on us, so it becomes visible in the eyes of the general public. The bastards trying to subjugate us have been working on this project for over 100 years. We have to adopt the same long view. I don't doubt that there are a number of RINO's that think they are just playing us for our next vote, but we have to think farther out than just the next election, and even if they inadvertently further our cause, it's all good.
Greywolf224
6.5 Creedmoor
Push Push in the Bush! That's as far as that will go.
Get FUAC out and we get a a chance.
Get FUAC out and we get a a chance.
S
stuck in ny
Guest
The chances when this passes...
vanderblack
.357 mag
Everyone I can contact, write, call and otherwise ask to help has been contacted, written called. I am fairly certain it will not make a difference. As stated above, Cuomo would never let his baby die unless it was in his political interest and in NY, it never will be. On the national level, running as a Dem, no benefit to change it or let it die. The only hope I see is the Supreme Court. However, that will never stop me from contacting, writing and calling each time someone puts up a fight against SAFE. Speaking out bring attention to the issue. Enough speak out and maybe it will get the attention of the right person or people. People who can bring a change. Look at it like this; eventually something comes to the supreme court that could abolish SAFE or components of it. Justices know that the decision is going to cause waves one way or the other. They read the news, see the reports and see that not a whole lot of people are objecting. Why stir the nest and strike down SAFE, its easy enough not to and give some justification that the left cheers for. Now, same scenario but this time, the voice of the right has been very loud. I have to believe the decision in or favor is more likely.
I believe in fighting for my rights regardless of the chance for success. My rights are important to me. Never give up the fight.
I believe in fighting for my rights regardless of the chance for success. My rights are important to me. Never give up the fight.
Madmallard
.223 Rem
Update:
ALBANY -- Republicans in the state Legislature renewed their efforts Wednesday to try to repeal parts of the state's 2013 gun-control law, saying upstate and the New York City suburbs should be excluded from the regulations.
The bid by GOP members in the Assembly and Senate to overhaul the SAFE ACT was quickly rejected by Democrats who control the Assembly, but the legislation again showed that the controversial law continues to resonate across New York.
The bill, which was first introduced last year, would drop most of the provisions of the law outside New York City.
"As law-abiding, legitimate, responsible gun owners, they feel that the SAFE Act tramples on their Second Amendment rights and at the same time has failed to make us any safer," said Sen. James Seward, R-Milton, Otsego County, at a Capitol press conference.
http://www.pressconnects.com/story/...s-try-again-upstate-safe-act-repeal/98603892/
ALBANY -- Republicans in the state Legislature renewed their efforts Wednesday to try to repeal parts of the state's 2013 gun-control law, saying upstate and the New York City suburbs should be excluded from the regulations.
The bid by GOP members in the Assembly and Senate to overhaul the SAFE ACT was quickly rejected by Democrats who control the Assembly, but the legislation again showed that the controversial law continues to resonate across New York.
The bill, which was first introduced last year, would drop most of the provisions of the law outside New York City.
"As law-abiding, legitimate, responsible gun owners, they feel that the SAFE Act tramples on their Second Amendment rights and at the same time has failed to make us any safer," said Sen. James Seward, R-Milton, Otsego County, at a Capitol press conference.
http://www.pressconnects.com/story/...s-try-again-upstate-safe-act-repeal/98603892/
RDN
.357 mag
I voted for Trump to save the 2nd Amend. even though I didn't think he would win. (glad to be wrong)
I'll petition my local state rep. and senator to repel this stupid law even though I don't think I'll go far. (state is a Liberal cesspool)
JosERW
.40 S&W
What is SCOTUS waiting for?
We're running out of cases to get to SCOTUS with...
Just another case of politicians telling us what we want to hear. They had a chance to do something when SAFE was amended to exclude LEO's. They had a chance when rent control extension bill came up. They are not doing anything for us except talking. Stop taking the bait.
If they want to show they are not full of shit, they MUST accomplish something then talk.
If they want to show they are not full of shit, they MUST accomplish something then talk.
Madmallard
.223 Rem
They could of stopped it when it was introduced in the middle of the night but now the same Repugnants that voted for it now want to repeal it. Smoke and mirrors.