It will be my first handgun with one, but I’ve been using red dots on rifles since the Army.
Handgun Optics Thread
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It will be my first handgun with one, but I’ve been using red dots on rifles since the Army.
Total range gun, not a chance I’ll ever carry it.
The irons may still be beneficial since handgun red dots are a whole different animals, but not 100% needed especially with a range gun.
Jaywmustang
.308 Win
I have read that it helps. I might try it if I ever try my hand on the unlimited division in gssf.
It's a shame you didnt need a fix for an RMR mount.
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***edit*** I'll trade you problems. I want to find a stripped G24 slide
Jaywmustang
.308 Win
All this red dot talk, is making me want a to buy a aftermarket slide for my g17 gen5.
Are g24 slide slides impossible to get like the g40? Lol
Are g24 slide slides impossible to get like the g40? Lol
Do you all see the space for and aft of the red dot in the mount? That means all the cyclic force of the slide, which is considerable, is transferred directly to the screws attaching the red dot.
I think it is better to have the red dot sitting in a tight fitting dovetail so it is the slide itself that bears the stress and not the screws.
Why even bother with that?
Yea it's the 24 is essentially the .40sw version of the G17L
I honestly dont see the point in multiple mounting options. I personally would for personal defense/carry/duty only use an RMR and if I wanted a different larger optic for say competition I would have a separate dedicated slide.
But I do believe the Atom mount keeps zero if you remove it and switch optics I could be wrong
I've been using red dots on rifles for a long time also and I can tell you hand gun ones are a whole different animal. I'm not going to even say harder because it might be easy for you. But I can tell you for sure the two different applications are not the same.
Edit: Heres a video of me shooting one, you can see and the second presentation of the drop and turn a delayed shot. This was due to a loss of the dot in the optic. Mind you at this point I did have many rounds under my belt using one. Heck i still really dont have that many rounds under my belt using one.
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The only real reason I see such a mounting system as being relevant, is when someone wants to try out the different dot applications without buying a new pistol. But I would think one you've found out what works for you, that you would purchase or have milled a dedicated slide.
This is a great point. I may look at dovetail mounts today and start with that.
So the vortex offerings have been well recieved, the new holosun 507c is also turning out to be pretty damn good.
I ordered a cheap dovetail mount to use for now on my Glock 21. I’m all over the map on what I want to do, at least this will get me practicing and a better idea of how I want my permanent setup to look.
Well the good news is with the cheap dovetail mount you arent locked in on that
It's a good starting point
I need to find a 17 Gen 3 slide to test my polymer 80 reciever with. I have the first model with the plastic rails. If it works, I’ll finish building that slowly while keeping the red dot on the 21 till its finished.
Best part about a dot is once you get used to the presentation, as long as that dot is in the window that's where the round is going to go (if you do your part that is) one good thing to do is set up a target or even pick something out (I use light switches) and practice presentation from a low ready.
You are going to see at first how much corrections you have been doing with iron sights at first since the dot is much less forgiving with movements visually.
The other difference between an iron and dots (similar to on a rifle) is pay attention to the target, unlike the saying "focus on the front sight" just focus on your target and superimpose the dot onto that, look through the window and the dot vs focusing on the dot
You are going to see at first how much corrections you have been doing with iron sights at first since the dot is much less forgiving with movements visually.
The other difference between an iron and dots (similar to on a rifle) is pay attention to the target, unlike the saying "focus on the front sight" just focus on your target and superimpose the dot onto that, look through the window and the dot vs focusing on the dot
Robin
.475 A&M Magnum
Airborne, If you have no plans for using this type of sight beyond the range, what is the purpose? I'm not trying to put you on the spot, I don't really see the point of a red dot on a hand gun in the first place. I won't contest your reasoning, maybe I can learn something.
Robin
Robin
Lots of good reasons to shoot with a dot. He mentioned competition shooting.. or just shooting out to extended ranges. Or just to get more accuracy
Competitions, but I would consider a carry optic if I was allowed to do so. I’ll continue practicing with everything I own of course. That’s one of the reasons I’m leaning towards mounting on the .45. Since it isn’t my carry handgun, it will ensure I work them into range time. If I put it on a 9mm, I could see myself only bringing that gun to the range from now on.
I'm saying pick a good red dot to stick with and custom mill that thing in there.
Jaywmustang
.308 Win
Any recommendation for the dot size for a competition rig?
That's the thing what is good for competition isnt really good for duty. Most open guns are running a C-mor not an RMR
Same goes for guns. Have a comp gun and a carry gun.
No trust me, we are on the same page, I'm just saying I can get the thought process for multiple mounting options,
I just ordered the Poly 80 Glock “1917” from Brownells. It has a 19 grip length and 17 slide length. Build time
So the optic is going on the 21 temporarily and I may even consider selling that one when the 1917 is up and running.
So the optic is going on the 21 temporarily and I may even consider selling that one when the 1917 is up and running.
I just ordered the Poly 80 Glock “1917” from Brownells. It has a 19 grip length and 17 slide length. Build time
So the optic is going on the 21 temporarily and I may even consider selling that one when the 1917 is up and running.
Now you have me more hooked, I love crazy builds. I'm in this for the updates
