Help me decide

[camper4lyfe]

While out on a run a few weeks ago, I saw some signs talking about hunting (bow only) in Perinton, NY in a handful of approved areas.

There's a $30 fee to be entered into a lottery for 2-8 permits for any given area, and the number of permits is dictated by the size of the area.

That said, help me understand tag usage. I have my lifetime super sportsman license, so it comes with a buck tag, as well as 2 doe tags. I also have my bow endorsement, but I haven't used it in a few years for lack of ability to get into the woods. I know the DMP tags can only be used during gun season. Is that also true for bow tags? I ask because I heard at one point that you could use one tag in a different season, but not the other way around, and I don't 100% remember which way it works, or if the guy was just talking out his ass about it.

I'm hesitant to pick up the necessary doe tag and potentially waste it on the CHANCE of getting into an area I want.

I'm sure I'm not being entirely clear, but here's the info from Perinton on the requirements and such that MIGHT help clarify. http://www.perinton.org/files/parksrec/Hunting Program Information Sheet 2015.pdf

 

[GOYABEAN]

While out on a run a few weeks ago, I saw some signs talking about hunting (bow only) in Perinton, NY in a handful of approved areas.

There's a $30 fee to be entered into a lottery for 2-8 permits for any given area, and the number of permits is dictated by the size of the area.

That said, help me understand tag usage. I have my lifetime super sportsman license, so it comes with a buck tag, as well as 2 doe tags. I also have my bow endorsement, but I haven't used it in a few years for lack of ability to get into the woods. I know the DMP tags can only be used during gun season. Is that also true for bow tags? I ask because I heard at one point that you could use one tag in a different season, but not the other way around, and I don't 100% remember which way it works, or if the guy was just talking out his ass about it.

I'm hesitant to pick up the necessary doe tag and potentially waste it on the CHANCE of getting into an area I want.

I'm sure I'm not being entirely clear, but here's the info from Perinton on the requirements and such that MIGHT help clarify. http://www.perinton.org/files/parksrec/Hunting Program Information Sheet 2015.pdf

Hunting regs to many cowboys and not enough Indians

 

[Bananabandit]

Hunting regs to many cowboys and not enough Indians

So thats how they won the west

 

[camper4lyfe]

I did some more thinking on this and probably won't do it. It'd be $50 for a CHANCE to hunt it with no guarantee. If o were planning to buy my bow license anyway, it might be a different story.

 

[NirvanaFan]

DMPs can be used during any season. Deer Management Permits (DMPs) - NYS Dept. of Environmental Conservation

My plan is to get into the Irondequoit bowhunting program. It's free, you just have to pass a qualification test and do some other stuff. But, the payoff can be worth it. There are some absolute MONSTER bucks in the town.

 

[NirvanaFan]

I did some more thinking on this and probably won't do it. It'd be $50 for a CHANCE to hunt it with no guarantee. If o were planning to buy my bow license anyway, it might be a different story.

The super sportsmen doesn't include bow hunting? I looked at the regulations you posted in your link. It is kind of similar to the Irondequoit program, which has served as a base for a bunch of town hunting programs. I don't think Irondequoit has a residency requirement though. It is probably a pretty good chance at harvesting a tag, if you're drawn to hunt. There are more deer taken in Irondequoit than authorized hunters.

 

[camper4lyfe]

The super sportsmen doesn't include bow hunting? I looked at the regulations you posted in your link. It is kind of similar to the Irondequoit program, which has served as a base for a bunch of town hunting programs. I don't think Irondequoit has a residency requirement though. It is probably a pretty good chance at harvesting a tag, if you're drawn to hunt. There are more deer taken in Irondequoit than authorized hunters.

I think it's actually the lifetime Sportsman, not the super. The super did include bow, but my lifetime doesn't. I'd have to buy the lifetime archery separate, but I don't bow hunt enough to justify that at this point in time.

 

[NirvanaFan]

I think it's actually the lifetime Sportsman, not the super. The super did include bow, but my lifetime doesn't. I'd have to buy the lifetime archery separate, but I don't bow hunt enough to justify that at this point in time.

Would you hunt more if you could hunt so close to home?

 

[camper4lyfe]

DMPs can be used during any season. Deer Management Permits (DMPs) - NYS Dept. of Environmental Conservation

My plan is to get into the Irondequoit bowhunting program. It's free, you just have to pass a qualification test and do some other stuff. But, the payoff can be worth it. There are some absolute MONSTER bucks in the town.

I was hoping it'd be the other way around, being able to use the bow tag during regular season, since I don't really want to give up my 8M and 8N tags on the off chance of getting into this program. Granted, there's nothing to say I had to hunt there during regular season, but the convenience is what's drawing me to it since there's a couple areas about 3 miles down the road vs a 1 hour drive.

 

[camper4lyfe]

Would you hunt more if you could hunt so close to home?

Therein lies the conundrum I suppose. I probably would, but the question is how much more and is it worth the extra expense?

 

[NirvanaFan]

I was hoping it'd be the other way around, being able to use the bow tag during regular season, since I don't really want to give up my 8M and 8N tags on the off chance of getting into this program. Granted, there's nothing to say I had to hunt there during regular season, but the convenience is what's drawing me to it since there's a couple areas about 3 miles down the road vs a 1 hour drive.

You can always pick up an 8N tag when they release the leftover DMP tags. There are still 8N tags available, 4 weeks after they released more of them. They are always available in the leftover draw. I didn't even put in for any 8N tags this year. I put in for 8R where my uncle's place is, and I put in for a 9P, so I could get a preference point. When I draw a tag in a couple years, I'll hand it over to my wife's friend who hunts there. Put in for the Perinton area and 8M for your first round of DMPs, then pick up an 8N when the leftover tags are available.

 

[camper4lyfe]

You can always pick up an 8N tag when they release the leftover DMP tags. There are still 8N tags available, 4 weeks after they released more of them. They are always available in the leftover draw. I didn't even put in for any 8N tags this year. I put in for 8R where my uncle's place is, and I put in for a 9P, so I could get a preference point. When I draw a tag in a couple years, I'll hand it over to my wife's friend who hunts there. Put in for the Perinton area and 8M for your first round of DMPs, then pick up an 8N when the leftover tags are available.

That's not a bad idea. I hadn't factored in the bonus tags.