Hochul-Nigrelli Letter to Dealers is Out

[Deplorable Me]

Hochul-Nigrelli Dealer Letter — 2AM Patriot

Hochul-Nigrelli issued the “official” letter to dealers. One dealer already opened it and we’re alerting the network. The first shot in a battle we knew was coming has been fired. Can you hear the call to action?

www.2ampatriot.com

 

[Jmac00]

LOL, you poor people are fucked. what happens when your NICS comes back from the FBI, but the NYSP say NOPE, YOU ARE NOT WORTHY. This just screams CONTROL without recourse

And whos to say NYSP won't lie? how would anyone know?? How would you challenge to system.

 

[Acer-m14]

so what is Paloma Capanna going to do .. ???

hey girl ..

NYS Open Legislation | NYSenate.gov

www.nysenate.gov

 

[Hochulsucks1234]

So I just went to that site (nysnics.ny.gov) and they don't even have a valid SSL certificate. Most browsers won't even allow the page to load because of that. This is gonna be a real cluster fuck. Got a couple guns on order to process before the 13th and have no plans to (ever) buy ammo in the state again. The hunters start coming out in September to buy new rifles and ammo. They are in for a rude awakening.

 

[Depick]

I foresee a steady stream of instant denials and endless technical issues.

 

[dsdmmat]

Letter is not dated nor signed. Looks like a draft copy.

 

[Jmac00]

Hochul-Nigrelli Dealer Letter — 2AM Patriot

Hochul-Nigrelli issued the “official” letter to dealers. One dealer already opened it and we’re alerting the network. The first shot in a battle we knew was coming has been fired. Can you hear the call to action?

www.2ampatriot.com

I can translate this for you: IT SAYS


If you want to have any constitutionally protected right, you're going to have to move your conservative, patriotic ass out of our cesspool state, and move to a free state

There now you don't have to read the entire letter, you're welcome

 

[Zerex]

Likely the next step is to have to register all the guns and ammo you own each year. You will be limited to 20 rounds per gun and no more than 5 guns.

 

[Deplorable Me]

I can translate this for you: IT SAYS


If you want to have any constitutionally protected right, you're going to have to move your conservative, patriotic ass out of our cesspool state, and move to a free state

There now you don't have to read the entire letter, you're welcome

Some us are here for the pissing contest.

 

[FP1201]

Likely the next step is to have to register all the guns and ammo you own each year. You will be limited to 20 rounds per gun and no more than 5 guns.

While not announced, I am very suspect that the SP will suddenly deem it necessary for a P-12 (form used whenever a Dealer receives in or transfers out a Handgun) to be created for each gun and if you think the State isn't going to keep a record of each and every background check then you're fooling yourself.
Remember: Dealers are to "...submit their records twice a year to the State Police..."

 

[lrick]

While not announced, I am very suspect that the SP will suddenly deem it necessary for a P-12 (form used whenever a Dealer receives in or transfers out a Handgun) to be created for each gun and if you think the State isn't going to keep a record of each and every background check then you're fooling yourself.
Remember: Dealers are to "...submit their records twice a year to the State Police..."

Yep, they will absolutely build an unConstitutional database. This is not only a threat against 2A but also against the Fourth Amendment. It's an end run around your 4A rights to attack your 2A rights. It creates the condition to facilitate conducting a search without needing physical access and therefore no warrant requirement, or affirmation of probable cause. A search is a search, whether it be of a physical place or a spreadsheet.

4th Amendment
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

The 4th makes no special distinction between the search phase and the seizure phase, it does not say you can look but you can't touch.

Going forward, anyone that is denied because it has been deemed that you have purchased too much ammo or too many guns in a given period would have just had their 4th Amendment right violated by agents conducting an illegal search by extension of your effects through a database and making an assumptive judgement of your effects.

 

[thisIslandEarth]

Wonderful. Don't we all have enough shit to deal with already.?!
My kid is a lawyer ( I know - I'm disappointed too ) . He read it over and said in summation it basically states :
Grab your ankles and bend over

 

[lrick]

Wonderful. Don't we all have enough shit to deal with already.?!
My kid is a lawyer ( I know - I'm disappointed too ) . He read it over and said in summation it basically states :
Grab your ankles and bend over

And that's a violation of the 3rd Amendment - if the .gov cannot quarter its military members in your home, it should also not be able to quarter its member up your bunghole.

 

[JRtraderny]

So I just went to that site (nysnics.ny.gov) and they don't even have a valid SSL certificate. Most browsers won't even allow the page to load because of that. This is gonna be a real cluster fuck. Got a couple guns on order to process before the 13th and have no plans to (ever) buy ammo in the state again. The hunters start coming out in September to buy new rifles and ammo. They are in for a rude awakening.

same here 2 pistols coming Wednesday that I've wanted and that's it for me . Food for them will be sent to PA where I can pick it up at my leisure f*ck NY .

 

[kev74]

State police has already been collecting this info. The FFL has a coupon book and sends a ticket to the state police every time they do a transfer. Never mind pistol permits.

As stated above, this will give them the opportunity to put their thumbs on the scale and arbitrarily slow the process.

 

[Acer-m14]

 

[XP100]

I see all gun owning NYer's moving out of the state and leaving a pussified, sissified state full of SHEEP. Glad I got the hell out 7 years ago this coming Sunday 09/03/2016. Don't miss much about NY. Now you have (only worse) Cuomo in a skirt

 

[Willyone]

I see all gun owning NYer's moving out of the state and leaving a pussified, sissified state full of SHEEP. Glad I got the hell out 7 years ago this coming Sunday 09/03/2016. Don't miss much about NY. Now you have (only worse) Cuomo in a skirt

Just imagine if chatty Kathy and those of her ilk got their wish of a "gun free" NYS.... guns confiscated from honest citizens, or honest citizens cave and turn in their guns, or honest gun owners just decided fuck it and move out of NYS, or a combination of that mentioned. That would leave no armed honest citizens in NYS. The only ones left would be the good unarmed folks, and the libs, progressives, pussies, whatever. The only ones that would have guns other than the cops, would be the criminals, the hood rats and such. Cities in NYS would become kill zones, and that would move out to the burbs in short order. No one in NYS would be any kind of safe or secure anywhere. It would be like living in cartelville.

Just thinking out loud...

 

[CaliberPlus]

Hochul-Nigrelli Dealer Letter — 2AM Patriot

Hochul-Nigrelli issued the “official” letter to dealers. One dealer already opened it and we’re alerting the network. The first shot in a battle we knew was coming has been fired. Can you hear the call to action?

www.2ampatriot.com

My letter came as an attachment from a FEDERAL email. The state cannot even get the letter out on their own. That bodes really,really well (sarcasm).

 

[Deplorable Me]

My letter came as an attachment from a FEDERAL email. The state cannot even get the letter out on their own. That bodes really,really well (sarcasm).

I love a good government clusterfuck.

 

[kev74]

I love a good government clusterfuck.

You're repeating yourself.

 

[lrick]

I love a good government clusterfuck.

You must be full of joy then, cuz there's no shortage of them

 

[Robin]

Yeah, they're a cluster of commies and we're getting fucked.
Robin

 

[Acer-m14]

 

[Acer-m14]

i have a letter to send out .. please help ..

 

[Acer-m14]

1-877-NYS-NICS Rikki don't loose that number ..

im calling about your extended car warranty ..

 

[Acer-m14]

 

[Vinson57]

I foresee a steady stream of instant denials and endless technical issues.

As geek beta boy millennial's are running the system and they are all left wing commies and then they suffer from why work hard while fucking with their phone incessantly while they laugh with their friends how they made outages on purpose, just to fuck with everybody?

 

[Acer-m14]

i bet 1-877-NYS-NICS goes to a India Call center