House passes concealed carry gun bill in win for GOP and NRA

[Marine Cpl]

Guys, this has been beat to death before. Heller specifically mentions, and subsequently protects, possession of handguns in the home. Our state law still says that possession is illegal ANYWHERE. Permits merely provide an affirmative defense against this. They cherry pick indictments and pleas so that the blatant unconstitutionality of this is never challenged.

Back to my point - if you think NYS will go along with this without fighting tooth and nail, you're naive.

ETA: Suppose they bring some poor schmuck up on charges and he eventually wins at SCOTUS. The state will probably be ordered to pay as part of the decision. But what happens if the state decides not to pay? If the schmuck doesn't keep up the legal pressure there's a real chance that money never shows up.

Not arguing with you. I agree with you. However, NY sees it as not infringing that because they'll grant almost anyone a premise permit. Where we live, they tend not to give those out and will issue restricted carries but in the city almost anyone not convicted of major crimes can get a premise permit.

 

[Mr. terzmo]

Calif/NY/NJ...6 senators that have to go and will not support it.

 

[M_F]

Not arguing with you. I agree with you. However, NY sees it as not infringing that because they'll grant almost anyone a premise permit. Where we live, they tend not to give those out and will issue restricted carries but in the city almost anyone not convicted of major crimes can get a premise permit.

AFAIK the no license = can't touch a handgun sullivan law in NY hasn't been challenged...at least after the Heller and McDonald rulings, in essence we still have a handgun BAN but the state provides a route where after jumping many hoops and in some localities after waiting more than a year we can exercise our rights to posses a handgun. The main difference was that D.C and Chicago did NOT provide a licensing scheme for common folks to posses pistols, however jumping thorough so many hoops and waiting more than a YEAR in some NY counties is clearly a violation of the "intent" of the SCOTUS rulings that possessing a handgun in the home is an individual right applicable to every law abiding citizen.

 

[M_F]

NYC is also NOT shall issue for "premises" permits, people have been denied for "bad driving records", and other non criminal violations, even one misdemeanor arrest in which the charges were dismissed can get you denied in NYC.

Bad Driver? In Debt? Proposed NYC Law Would Ban You From Owning a Gun

 

[Darth]

What, no anti-NRA wisecracks yet?

I'm here, what would you like me to crack about?