Hunting accident leads to a Criminal Possession of A Weapon charge

Darth

Darth

Bunny In Chief
Messages
19,510
Reaction score
24,664
Location
MoCo
libertysnake said:
Interesting!

What I want to know is, what cowards are sitting there trying with all their might to show if they can break a fixed mag with their strength to ruin the life of someone obviously trying to comply? How sick in the head do you have to be to do that?
Click to expand...
You'd love the PoliceOne forum.

Back before NY made gravity knives legal those choads on there (NYC cops) would literally have a circle jerk about the "collars" they would get from taking a pocket knife and literally JUMPING OFF THE CURB WHILE DEPRESSING THE LOCK and if the blade moved open, cuff them and stuff them.

I'm dead serious.

They are not your friends.
 
M

ManualF150

.308 Win
Messages
4,836
Reaction score
8,831
Location
Cayuga
Darth said:
You'd love the PoliceOne forum.

Back before NY made gravity knives legal those choads on there (NYC cops) would literally have a circle jerk about the "collars" they would get from taking a pocket knife and literally JUMPING OFF THE CURB WHILE DEPRESSING THE LOCK and if the blade moved open, cuff them and stuff them.

I'm dead serious.

They are not your friends.
Click to expand...

You are absolutely correct.

I've been a huge knife person for a long time and are on many knife forums. I remember this clear as day with cops pushing the lock button and waving the knife around like a buffoon till it came out. As soon as it did, you are under arrest. Even if it took them a ton of tries.

It's also insanity that we still have automatic knife laws anywhere in the USA.

Doesn't do anything but jeopardize people's rights.

Yea, cuff'em and stuff'em....... :mad:
 
Darth

Darth

Bunny In Chief
Messages
19,510
Reaction score
24,664
Location
MoCo
ManualF150 said:
You are absolutely correct.

I've been a huge knife person for a long time and are on many knife forums. I remember this clear as day with cops pushing the lock button and waving the knife around like a buffoon till it came out. As soon as it did, you are under arrest. Even if it took them a ton of tries.

It's also insanity that we still have automatic knife laws anywhere in the USA.

Doesn't do anything but jeopardize people's rights.

Yea, cuff'em and stuff'em....... :mad:
Click to expand...
The have no accountability if they're wrong. Why not see what sticks?

Coming from someone that works in "in law enforcement."
 
libertysnake

libertysnake

.338 Win Mag
Messages
8,840
Reaction score
16,379
Location
New York
Darth said:
The have no accountability if they're wrong. Why not see what sticks?

Coming from someone that works in "in law enforcement."
Click to expand...

This is another reason why I spawned that AK thread to get an idea of what options were common out there.

Without a list of approved modifications to meet the definitions, we can only go by what the law says literally, and what configuration the majority of rifles are sold in trying to meet that standard. It makes the job of DAs really hard if there is a good precedent around a configuration being accepted or not prosecuted up until this point.

Either way, if they make the law they should be forced to define what is what. Which is hard to do. For example: on an AR-15, a bayonet mount could be the entire lug since there is no other purpose. On an AK, there isn't a separate hunk of metal just ears that hang off the accessory rail below the gas block, which holds your cleaning rod.

The moment they start defining anything will be the moment they realize they can't actually define all ways people could get around it.
 
Darth

Darth

Bunny In Chief
Messages
19,510
Reaction score
24,664
Location
MoCo
Acer-m14 said:
so the kid shot himself in the foot and some other guy talked to the cops and got jammed up ..

Only in NY .


Do Not Talk to Cops ..

That Means all LAW ENFORCERS
Click to expand...
As if people needed another reason not to talk to me.

The bunny getup wasn't enough. :cryingcat:
 
Z

Zerex

.308 Win
Messages
2,951
Reaction score
2,350
Location
Rome, NY
Man gave consent to search truck, though not necessary, AS IT WAS A SHOOTING SCENE..............it took 5 officers to remove mag from AR10 gun...........but it came out.............

So--TO JAIL..................... FELONY ARREST

Being insulted by existing laws, and their enforcement, is no reason to hate cops.

Many circumstances happen in life..most unintended and unexpected, that suddenly involve LE in your life...................and then if vulnerable..kaput.

LEARN

Letita James wins again.
 
OwnTheRide

OwnTheRide

.223 Rem
Messages
1,214
Reaction score
2,434
Location
Allegany
Zerex said:
Man gave consent to search truck, though not necessary, AS IT WAS A SHOOTING SCENE
Click to expand...
You keep saying this, mind clarifying what you are trying to get at?

The mere fact that a shooting has occurred does not grant police the right to search any and all nearby vehicles without a warrant. There are circumstances which would allow for warrant-less searches, but they are not anywhere near as universal or all-encompassing as you seem to be suggesting.

What we know is as follows: the person whose vehicle was searched was not the victim, nor was he suspected of involvement in the shooting, nor was he in the immediate proximity of the negligent party/victim. Given that limited information, the most reasonable assumption is that the guy gave consent for them to search his vehicle, as there would be no probable cause to do so without a warrant. Now, there may be more to the story that we don't know... if you're sitting on additional information, share it.
 
Z

Zerex

.308 Win
Messages
2,951
Reaction score
2,350
Location
Rome, NY
This case is likely about use of a Mean Arms type Mag Lock..........if this case goes further, this may be the case that disallows ALL mag lock use in the state, on AR's, epoxy or not.

State may issue a Safe ACT clarification, about use of mag locks, on full features AR's...many many of them out there in use.

Only SCOTUS can save us, if true.
 
spat

spat

.700 Nitro Express
Messages
29,613
Reaction score
62,342
Location
Formerly Geneseo, NY. Now free in AZ
Zerex said:
Man gave consent to search truck, though not necessary, AS IT WAS A SHOOTING SCENE..............it took 5 officers to remove mag from AR10 gun...........but it came out.............

So--TO JAIL..................... FELONY ARREST

Being insulted by existing laws, and their enforcement, is no reason to hate cops.

Many circumstances happen in life..most unintended and unexpected, that suddenly involve LE in your life...................and then if vulnerable..kaput.

LEARN

Letita James wins again.
Click to expand...
If you put on a uniform, then you stand for everything that uniform does.

When the uniform enforces tyrannical laws, then you are an agent of tyranny, no matter how you otherwise conduct yourself.

So, quite literally, if you don't think every law on the books is legitimate, then find another job.

and yes, that means there should be no cops until they clean up all the laws. Something really messy needs to happen before things will get fixed, might as well be anarchy.
 
Bustedknees

Bustedknees

.308 Win
Messages
4,753
Reaction score
9,233
Location
Madison/oneida/lewis
The family just started a Go Fund Me page. They also claim they dont know how the officer was able to release the mag and have been unable to repeat the release.
 
Z

Zerex

.308 Win
Messages
2,951
Reaction score
2,350
Location
Rome, NY
How could they even try, when the AR was confiscated as an unregistered Assault Weapon?

We will get clarification soon, but not from fam..ask the NYSP TODAY.
 
pjzwtl

pjzwtl

.308 Win
Messages
4,134
Reaction score
8,863
Location
Sullivan County
Zerex said:
Man gave consent to search truck, though not necessary, AS IT WAS A SHOOTING SCENE..............it took 5 officers to remove mag from AR10 gun...........but it came out.............

So--TO JAIL..................... FELONY ARREST

Being insulted by existing laws, and their enforcement, is no reason to hate cops.

Many circumstances happen in life..most unintended and unexpected, that suddenly involve LE in your life...................and then if vulnerable..kaput.

LEARN

Letita James wins again.
Click to expand...
I don’t hate cops hell my kids one. I know many who wouldn’t have even cared to check that mag. I do hate statists cucks and that’s exactly what the guy who got the mag out was.
 
Old Jalopy

Old Jalopy

.45 acp
Messages
349
Reaction score
430
Location
Upstate NY
No matter what it is, the outcome will probably never be made public. If they keep us in the dark, they can keep jamming us up on how bad their day is going.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top