libertysnake
.338 Win Mag
So, if someone asked you "Hey, I'm immunocompromised. Would you mind if we kept distance?" You just wouldn't? Just out of pure spite? Kind seems like a shitty move to me.
I’m getting very sick of the governors Covid rules- state parks limited now
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So, if someone asked you "Hey, I'm immunocompromised. Would you mind if we kept distance?" You just wouldn't? Just out of pure spite? Kind seems like a shitty move to me.
No, and I don't know why you would even think that.
I can't say for sure I'd do what they want though. If I'm not coughing I am no threat to them, they are welcome to steer clear of me though.
libertysnake
.338 Win Mag
That's literally all I'm asking at this point in the conversation. Just to be respectful that some people in the park might want to use it who otherwise have other health conditions. That's all I'm looking for agreement on that it's the polite thing to do.
And that's fine, you stated you changed your position from the one people took issue with at the start.
Hell, I'd wager more people would display a kindness mindset towards others if these mandates were not a thing. I actually quite often go out of my way to help others.
Of my own volition.
People don't like being told what to do and I don't blame them.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Lots of people here do not give 2 shits about their fellow man. And I’m not talking about obese people that eat McDonald’s everyday. I’m talking about elderly that have lived healthy lives their whole time on this earth that have compromised immune systems due to old age and people who try to be healthy and look otherwise healthy but have underlying conditions due to genetics despite the exercise and diet in their lives. Veterans who come back from wars with underlying conditions with lung scarring and COPD due to burning plastics inhalation and sand inhalation that can only get a good night’s sleep on a cpap.
Nobody gives a fuck. Just ME ME ME. I’m disgusted in all of you. You know who you are. All we ask is to have some respect. Because if the shoe was on the other foot, you would demand it.
Nobody gives a fuck. Just ME ME ME. I’m disgusted in all of you. You know who you are. All we ask is to have some respect. Because if the shoe was on the other foot, you would demand it.
spat
.700 Nitro Express
The only legitimate way for government to shut down "non essential" businesses would be to pay those businesses to shut down (i.e. it has taken something from them that they are entitled to compensation for).
This "shut down or else" crap is just totalitarian BS, and people are fully justified in resisting it by any means they are willing to exercise.
It may be unwise to resist, but it was unwise to shelter Anne Frank in your attic too. Unwise does not mean unjustified.
As for the 'helicopter money", that is a tool of fiscal policy, it's just what happens when you need to lower interest rates that are already at 0%.
It's BS, but a completely different variety. It is a sign that the economy is coming off the rails, and worrying about it is like worrying that the firemen are tracking mud on the new carpet while they frantically try to put out the fire.
spat
.700 Nitro Express
I will agree with the current state of panic, 6 feet should be considered "good manners" and approaching withing that distance should be considered "rude".
But that's as far as I'll go.
People have always had social distance (formerly known as personal space). It has always been considered rude to "invade" someone's personal space (look at how Biden gets pilloried for doing it).
The panic created over this virus has just significantly expanded many people's idea of how large that that space should be.
Deplorable Me
.577 Tyrannosaur.
NY has always been the leader in nanny state legislation. On the flip side many in society are too stupid to hold themselves accountable for obvious problems. The idocracy is alive and well.
Ill tell you what.....im going to demand that the country is shut down during flu season every year. The flu is much more dangerous and deadly than Covid.
I figure if we keep everything shut down for 10 months a year we should be safe.
People have no idea what they are setting themselves up for with this behavior.
Now when someone cuts a fart : NATIONWIDE LOCKDOWN!
Saltwater60
.950 JDJ
I agree if you’re going to tell me I can’t visit a state park or severely limit my access I should not have to pay that portion of my taxes.
I take my soN fishing after work at a local state park, I kayak that state park, and my wife and other son will walk/bird watch that state park. If I’m not allowed to visit why pay. I won’t be getting an empire pass this year as I had planned. Fuck them.
I take my soN fishing after work at a local state park, I kayak that state park, and my wife and other son will walk/bird watch that state park. If I’m not allowed to visit why pay. I won’t be getting an empire pass this year as I had planned. Fuck them.
Blimey
.450/400 Nitro Ex
I honestly felt the exact same way a month ago. Summary beatings by police on-sight for rule breakers and free tazings or pepper spray for everyone.
Now I don't give a shit. Economy is getting ass-blasted, antibody testing has indicated fatality rate of this illness is magnitudes lower than originally thought. Moreover, a seemingly endless litany of "extensions" on "NY Pause". I've just had enough, seen enough of it.
And another thing; We know that this shit lives about 3 microseconds in sunlight. We also know that warmer, more hymid weather smashes it (as it does lots of viruses). Telling people they cannot go for a hike in the middle of the woods because the parking lot is full is asinine.
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
I believe in the end everyone will get that virus.... The vast majority of folks dying from it are elderly and have underlying conditions... These folks are the ones that need to take extra measures.
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
If I am outside hiking or in a park although I certainly don't and won't purposely try to go stand or walk next to or near someone I also purposely won't spend my time strategizing about intentionally avoiding anyone either. No different than always I do my best not to get in anyone's personal space. That's about as far as I'll take it. If that isn't good enough for anyone than they should either stay home or also do the same on their end. This may sound rude to some but this is just the subconscious way I am in public.
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
Just let all the introverted anti social folks in .... Problem solved....
Bananabandit
.338 Win Mag
sounds like something Darth would be intoI never said you shouldn't be able to visit a park. The onus is on you though to protect yourself, not on me to worry about you how far I stand from you. Which BTW really doesn't mean squat but that's besides the point. I promise I won't sneeze in your mouth.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
That’s all that’s being asked. That applies everywhere. Even when in line at the supermarket.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
I find it disrespectful to make me wear a bag on my head because people like you are afraid of the dark. Man the fuck up, You'll be fine. WTF??
Toecutter
.308 Win
Well I had to work today and the Bronx River Parkway was shut down for bicycle Sunday’s people were everywhere on bikes. But we can’t go hiking.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
If it were one of yours, id wear a mask too
You'd bottle it up and save it for later you sick perv!
libertysnake
.338 Win Mag
You know he just gets off when you break his balls right?
That's a double entendre if I ever did see one.
I am one of those people.
I care very, very little for my fellow man. I have near zero sympathy and even less empathy. I am not sure where it all went. Been missing from me for a very long time. Sometimes I wish I could find those inner feelings.
The more time in life that goes on, the less I care. The stories of those that refuse to help themselves, refuse to better themselves grow by the day. I cannot care about these people.
The people that have allowed themselves to become lazy, slovenly and pitiful? No, I cannot afford to feel for them.
Junkies, crackheads, and addicts? All by choice and weakness. Nope, no feelings for them either.
I see people that are grossly overweight...100% their fault. Nope, no feeling of helping them.
Those that cannot budget their money them beg for assistance... You know the answer.
It is not necessarily a thing of me, me, me... It is more that others fail because of their choices and then expect me (and others) to feel for them.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
My post wasn’t about those people you described at all. But anyways, if I’m one of those people with COPD developed from an Iraqi deployment and I’m in Home Depot with my 87 year old dad, and you are behind me not keeping your distance, are you going to respect my wishes or are you going to instigate an altercation rather than backing up and leaving me be?
If you say something to me, I'll probably tell you to piss off. Just being honest. I will not be six feet away, but I promise this, I will not be standing inches from you either.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Then we would have a problem. I wouldn’t care if you said to piss off but kept your distance because it’s just words but you are saying that you won’t and escalate the situation. So I was correct in previous posts. You are a bully. Not a good human being at all. Worse than those that you hate.
Serious question, why six feet? What if the next guy says eight feet? 10? Is three feet enough? No? Why? How far would I need to be to make you happy? What makes your thought of distance more important than what I think is a good distance?>
I am absolutely not a bully.