I’m getting very sick of the governors Covid rules- state parks limited now

[Darth]

You haven't yet in this whole situation, why change now?

 

[Marine Cpl]

You want to try that again? Ill meet ya half way promise ill be there.

I don’t know what you are talking about here on this particular thread. Use your head. There are other ways to make arrangements to meet up for a beer.

 

[holdover]

Darths argument is correct.

 

[holdover]

You want to have a beer in Syracuse? Ill buy.

 

[Marine Cpl]

You want to have a beer in Syracuse? Ill buy.

No. I don’t drink. But you’ll have to come down here to do so. I told you that I’m paying for each and every beer you drink. There is no negotiations on that.

 

[holdover]

450 miles is not even reasonable. , half way point is fair grounds for both of us , I wouldn't expect you to drive here either. and now you don't want a beer? Jeesus

 

[GOPerfect]

You want to have a beer in Syracuse? Ill buy.

I got involved in a conversation years ago that got out of hand...

Me and that other member ended up meeting for a beer.

It actually turned out quite well and we actually became friends.

We speak on the phone regularly and meet up for coffee now.

 

[Marine Cpl]

And AGAIN, doing so with no evidence whatsoever that the person is any threat to him beyond what the media told him to think.

See that guy with the gun on his hip over there? He's a threat to you, tell him to back up. Better yet, call the cops on him!

Last post on this subject with you because further response will just turn into nonsense, incoherent sentences, deflection, and childish antics from you. The whole point of these measures is because one is contagious days before any symptoms are even established without the contagious person even knowing it.

 

[Marine Cpl]

450 miles is not even reasonable. , half way point is fair grounds for both of us , I wouldn't expect you to drive here either. and now you don't want a beer? Jeesus

I invited you first for a pint. You declined.

 

[Marine Cpl]

I got involved in a conversation years ago that got out of hand...

Me and that other member ended up meeting for a beer.

It actually turned out quite well and we actually became friends.

We speak on the phone regularly and meet up for coffee now.

I’m pretty sure it would turn out the same way. Beer usually fixes everything.

 

[Darth]

Last post on this subject with you because further response will just turn into nonsense, incoherent sentences, deflection, and childish antics from you. The whole point of these measures is because one is contagious days before any symptoms are even established without the contagious person even knowing it.

And you cannot assume asymptomatic people have it because then you can assume anyone has anything at any time. It's idiotic.

But hell, let's assume you do. Then you need to demonstrate they are coughing and thereby making this airborne. You also failed to do that.

When you have an indefensible position, as you do here, you always get all Dunning Kruger. Every time on here. So in the end, yeah, it's a waste of time.

 

[Marine Cpl]

And you cannot assume asymptomatic people have it because then you can assume anyone has anything at any time. It's idiotic.

But hell, let's assume you do. Then you need to demonstrate they are coughing and thereby making this airborne. You also failed to do that.

When you have an indefensible position, as you do here, you always get all Dunning Kruger. Every time on here. So in the end, yeah, it's a waste of time.

You don’t need to cough. Just regular talking produces infected spittle.

 

[Darth]

You don’t need to cough. Just regular talking produces infected spittle.

And again, you were demonstrated wrong on this point.

But again, even let's assume this one too, you then need to show why I, someone not symptomatic or coughing, must be removed from your area instead of you, the irrationally concerned one, removing yourself from the area.

 

[holdover]

I invited you first for a pint. You declined.

it was an unreasonable request. Not to many people on this forum would drive 450 miles to do it. then get called a pussy for declining. So I counter offered to split the difference if you really wanted to. and you declined half the distance yourself. That's a reasonable compromise.

 

[Marine Cpl]

And again, you were demonstrated wrong on this point.

But again, even let's assume this one too, you then need to show why I, someone not symptomatic or coughing, must be removed from your area instead of you, the irrationally concerned one, removing yourself from the area.

Incorrect. Talking produces droplets. Droplets of an infected contain the virus. No one demonstrated that that is incorrect.

 

[holdover]

I thought that was what the mask was for?

 

[Darth]

Incorrect. Talking produces droplets. Droplets of an infected contain the virus. No one demonstrated that that is incorrect.

No, what needs tb be demonstrated is that this is communicable by talking, as you claim.

You've been shown this is not the case, per a link you provided.

 

[Marine Cpl]

Correct. It limits the distance of the droplets travelled. 6 ft is another factor that mitigates those droplets from hitting you.

 

[Marine Cpl]

No, what needs tb be demonstrated is that this is communicable by talking, as you claim.

You've been shown this is not the case, per a link you provided.

That link demonstrated that aerosol aren’t as dangerous. It said that droplets are. Talking, coughing, and sneezing creates droplets. Masks stop droplets for the most part depending on which mask is used and if it is applied correctly. Masks slow down aerosols depending on the airflow of the mask.

 

[holdover]

So the guy behind you isn't talking to anyone , minding his own business , and you feel he is a threat?

 

[Darth]

That link demonstrated that aerosol aren’t as dangerous. It said that droplets are. Talking, coughing, and sneezing creates droplets. Masks stop droplets for the most part depending on which mask is used and if it is applied correctly. Masks slow down aerosols depending on the airflow of the mask.

Aren't you the one that wanted to talk to the guy behind you?

 

[Marine Cpl]

Aren't you the one that wanted to talk to the guy behind you?

I’m wearing a mask. Anyway, this is getting nowhere with you guys. There are more important issues here at hand like below. Your minds are made up. It hasn’t affected your areas so I understand.

 

[Darth]

I’m wearing a mask. Anyway, this is getting nowhere with you guys. There are more important issues here at hand like below. Your minds are made up. It hasn’t affected your areas so I understand.

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Irrelevant if it affected here or not.

You haven't demonstrated the person was sick. Haven't demonstrated the person was coughing. You think talking can spread it, with no evidence, and given all that you decide to talk to people BEHIND you in the grocery store and demand them to move or give them the what for.

You're a Bully.

 

[holdover]

If it was half as bad as they said it would be NYC would have lost over 300,000 people so far.

 

[holdover]

He cant seem to understand that telling people what to do might piss them off. Especially if they don't buy the bunk .

Its been 4 months so far and I haven't wore a mask or practiced social distancing and Im perfectly fine. If I was wrong I could have fell seriously ill or even died , but so far so good.

 

[Darth]

He cant seem to understand that telling people what to do might piss them off. Especially if they don't buy the bunk .

Its been 4 months so far and I haven't wore a mask or practiced social distancing and Im perfectly fine. If I was wrong I could have fell seriously ill or even died , but so far so good.

At what point does it no longer become "you might just be asymptomatic" and become " I'm just telling you what to do because fuck you."

And don't say "when you're tested." Because testing only tells you your status at the time of the test.

 

[Marine Cpl]

Still bad when 97 bus drivers and trainmen die. Still bad when bodies are discovered in Uhaul trucks outside of a funeral home because there was no room inside. Still bad when bodies remain in homes for days because there aren’t enough people to get them. Still bad when mass graves in NYC are utilized.

Like I said. I understand where you are coming from because it hasn’t affected your area. You walk around safely with no mask and aren’t getting sick because no one from down here is going up there. I felt the same when it was in China. I was ignorant until it hit me.

Sure it isn’t the numbers that they are saying. But whether it’s 3000 a day or 1000 a day (Don’t ask me for correct numbers because I do not follow them.), it’s still an overwhelming strain on the system and it still is a killer that wouldn’t have been so with just the regular flu. This shit has taken men in their 40’s and 50’s in the same physical condition as myself. Men that work for a livIng with their hands that aren’t fat and weak behind a desk.

So when some ignorant person behind me in line from the sticks wants to be inconsiderate, it’s my problem. Thankfully I live in a county where people respect each other and it doesn’t have to get to the point where violence is involved.

 

[holdover]

Sticks, LOL the rest of the country is the sticks? OK. Whatever stories they told you the overall numbers are no where near their projections , just like I said it would be when this scamdemic started. And even by admission the numbers are inflated . This is so far off from what they said it would be its laughable. U haul trucks?? Come onnnnnn , if that doesn't tell you its being enhanced nothing will. There are no shortages of refrigerated trucks and warehouses . There s no reason to use a uhaul . You have to be one of most gullible people I know. I looked up funeral homes in NYC and I got more than 500 hits , most can handle 2 -4 funerals a day That's roughly 2000 deaths a day . Mass graves? why ? they couldn't drive them out of the city? are you for real? Would you let your mother be buried in a mass grave? Im surprised they haven't stored bodies in ice cream trucks yet, probably because they didn't think of it.

I expose myself everyday, no mask no gloves, which means Im risking my life or my health if Im wrong. That's putting your money where your mouth is. It didn't hit my area or the rest of the country that hard and isn't going to because most of it is hype.

 

[Darth]

Still bad when 97 bus drivers and trainmen die. Still bad when bodies are discovered in Uhaul trucks outside of a funeral home because there was no room inside. Still bad when bodies remain in homes for days because there aren’t enough people to get them. Still bad when mass graves in NYC are utilized.

Like I said. I understand where you are coming from because it hasn’t affected your area. You walk around safely with no mask and aren’t getting sick because no one from down here is going up there. I felt the same when it was in China. I was ignorant until it hit me.

Except people from down there are being brought up here.

I was not in Hiroshima when the atomic bomb hit. I have no connection there. I am still entirely capable of knowing it was a horrible tragedy. I do not look over my shoulder for a falling atom bomb.

I was not on a plane during 9/11. I still understand the horrific tragedy those people endured. I fully oppose the TSA.

I lost no family members in Sandy Hook. I still know that it happened and was terrible. I still oppose all gun laws.

Sure it isn’t the numbers that they are saying. But whether it’s 3000 a day or 1000 a day (Don’t ask me for correct numbers because I do not follow them.), it’s still an overwhelming strain on the system and it still is a killer that wouldn’t have been so with just the regular flu. This shit has taken men in their 40’s and 50’s in the same physical condition as myself. Men that work for a livIng with their hands that aren’t fat and weak behind a desk.

And people of all ages, the super vast majority, have also not contracted it, and those that did, the super vast majority recover.

Demonstrate that it wouldn't have been a strain on the system like the regular flu, if both were given he same media coverage and guidelines. The numbers don't support you, but sure, have a crack at it.

So when some ignorant person behind me in line from the sticks wants to be inconsiderate, it’s my problem. Thankfully I live in a county where people respect each other and it doesn’t have to get to the point where violence is involved.

Ignorant of what? The numbers you already admitted you don't know?

And we DO live in a country where most people respect each other with no government intervention needed. As stated before, the reason people are even taking a stand on this is BECAUSE of government involvement. Without government intervention I have no problems reasonably respecting people's wishes. Obviously wearing a mask with no symptoms when you aren't coughing is unreasonable, but if someone asked me if I could step back I more likely than not would. Again, depends on the circumstance.

 

[Darth]

I expose myself everyday, no mask no gloves, which means Im risking my life or my health if Im wrong. That's putting your money where your mouth is. It didn't hit my area or the rest of the country that hard and isn't going to because most of it is hype.

GO frEnch kIss A COVID pOsItIvE pErsOn And gEt bAck tO mE!